Patriotic Dissent versus Paranoid and Bigoted

My position on the War on Iraq is well known to readers of this blog. I want to qualify for my readers and non readers my position on the antiwar movement. Unlike the typical prowar blog I am not a Conservative . Others may refer to me as a Conservative and the term is relative. Compared to a far left lunatic I am considered conservative.

There are ways to dissent on the war on terror and still be a patriot. The point is
that the correct form of dissent is rare. Liberals get upset when I point to the excesses of the left. Liberals also get upset when I point to the perpetual misguided
rage of the left. The point is if you can not talk to a moderate like myself you will
never get back in power.

1 Proper Dissent - I do not agree with the war in Iraq it is not the best way to handle terrorism. The terrorist problem can be resolved better by doing x. Lets get out of Iraq and bring the troops home.
Not a dissent I agree with but patriotic.

2A Unpatriotic Dissent - Any association with groups led by Communists such as Code Pink and Answer. Any discussion with a proven seditious movement that has caused
the death of 100,000,000. The issue is terrorism not Capitalism and much of the anti-
war movement is thinly diguised anti Capitalism .

2B Blame America first crowd . This part is comedic because it is a tactic used by Zinn etc. However when we apply the exact same model on Islam the left cries racist
except that Arab, Muslims and Palestinians do not qualify as a race. Thus the left
loves to play this game but when the tactic is extended to its logical conclusion it is unfair. If indict a group by its history is acceptable on Western Civilizations then Islam and every other group shall be judged similarly. The ironic part is that this is a Marxist perspective on history and the followers of Marx are responsible for 100,000,000 deaths.

3 Bigotry and Conspiracy Cranks.
Recidivist 5/19/05 " On the subject of the war in Iraq and the whole fascist Judea- Neocon war on terror fraud.

This is anti American bigoted and laced with conspiratoral thinking.This brings up
standard anti- semitic cannards of dual loyalty and the cabal of Jews trying to rule
the world. A similar discussion of a conspiracy involving a velvet Mafia by conservatives would be dismissed as Crank talk and bigotry. The failure of liberals to adress this issue is amazing. I have zero doubt that the majority of liberals are
not anti- semites. I know Kafkaesq and B are not anti- semites but it would be nice to hear them adress the issue.

The portrayal of religious Christians as less intelligent or brainwashed. This is standard fare among some liberals . There was a disturbing amount of bigotry aimed at
the new Pope in familiar blogs. The teachings of any Church belong to the Clergy and members of the Church . There are many interpretations of every scripture and for outsiders to lecture the Church on its teachings is arrogance and bigotry. If you
do not agree with the positions find a Church or religion more suited to yours or fight from within.

My position on the treatment of Gays in society is a Civil matter. I do not wish to live in a country where they are persecuted. However I also do not wish to live in a Country where kids are taught about homosexuality in the second grade. The context should also be respect for difference rather then graphic sexual technique. I also do not wish to live in a culture where the government lectures churches on theology.
I do find it interesting that some of the loudest voices on the Christian position towards Gays say zero about Islamic teachings. In fact they say next to zero when
sermons advocating the killing of Jews, Christians ,Gays etc are translated by MEMRI. The usual cry is Islamophobia at the mention of those speeches.

I have recently been hearing anti India and Hindu themes . The usual cries are the BJP is the new Likud. Hiduism is a racist religion and is barbaric. India is stealing alll the tech jobs. This nascent bigotry is new on the left and surprised me. I guess adding Hindus to the list of accepted bigotries is a form of multiculturalism. However if one sneezes in the direction of Islam that is bigotry.

The Bush equals Hitler bit is standard bigotry. Intelligent Liberals run from it but
our friend in the UK seems to run towards this. We can disagree on policy and one can safely say the president is a bad man, I disagree. There are no extermination camps. There has been zero attempts to mass convert the population . There has been zero attempt to permanetly occupy the country. Once the nations have armies and can stand on their own we will depart.

The equivocation of those on the left of Bush and Osama as equals. Osama killed 3000 Americans in a sneak attack . This act was aimed at Civilians who were going to work.
I am an eye witness to 9-11 and seeing people drop from the WTC has given me a another perspective. I also survived WTC 93 a blast that was tied back to Saddam. Ramzi Youssef worked with Iraqi intelligence and is bin Al Sheebs of Al Qeda's nephew. The fact is Clinton did zero about WTC 93 but this is not his fault. The path to WTC leads to the Kahane assassination and Bush 1. The refusal to dig into wider networks to assure that the public was safe seems to be a multi administration
failing. The PC brigades are reponsible for this failing. We learned the wrong lesson from the Cold War our enemies hid behind red baiting. In the 9-11 age added scruitiny on Muslims is reality. Where should we look for terrorists Nascar races,
Senior citizen centers , Buddhist temples, Rap Concerts ,Star Trek conventions or Mosques. The reality is that we are facing Islamic Radicalism and the answer is obvious. We should also look at those on the far left with more scruitiny. My usage of the term far left does not include liberals but the Reds, Anarchists some of the Greens. Many former Communists call themselves Greens or Progressives.

The profusion of conspiracy cranks who run around blaming everone for 9-11 except Osama . Most of the suspects in these conspiracy theories are Jews. The whole discussion Bush lied and war for oil are a step above. Every intelligence agency has the same estimate on WMD including the French, Russian,Israeli , Egyptian and the WMD were likely moved to Syria that has had chemical weapons from the 70's. The fact that Syria and Egypt both have had Chemical weapons for such a long time is ignored
by idiots like 167. Egypt allegedly used Chemical weapons in the Yemen civil war in the 60's.

I have discussed the bigotry and the communists on liberal sites. The response is the
expected denial. My advice to the liberals from a moderate.

1 Ditch the Communists and disavow any association. Code Pink and Answer are Communist led get them out of your protests and keep them away from the democratic party.

2 Loose the anger and try to talk like lucid people. People do not listen to foul mouthed angry voices. You don't like the war in Iraq is a far cry from Bush = Hitler.

3 Clean up your mess with bigotry in your ranks. The portrayals of the Pope and Religious Christians is bigoted and arrogant. The word games with Jews and Zionism should cease. The second we start talking about cabals you have veered into bigotry.
The Iraq war has zero to do with Israel . If srael were the motivator Iran,Saudi Arabia, Syria and Lebanon (Hezbollah) would rank higher.

4 Come up with an alternate plan for dealing with Terrorism. Law enforcement and diplomacy failed. The denial or minimization of the problem does not work.

5 End this PC foolishness that may get us killed. There is a problem and it comes from a certain area. Denial of obvious realities may get us killed. Lack of human rights and the cult of low expectations for Muslim countries are another form of bigotry (not race as Muslims and Arabs are not a race)

6 Human rights come from the Constitution focus your gay rights issues there. Complaining about Church teachings is arrogant and a waste of time.

7 Avoid the reflexive America is the focus of the world evils bit . Avoid blame America first reaction

8 If the Zinn historical model used on Islam is bigotry do not use it on Western Civ
or American History.

9 Stop telling us what people think overseas . Tell us what you think.

10 When people make anti American statements stand up for your country. I do not agree with this policy but your assesment of this a typical American behavior is wrong.