Thursday, January 04, 2007

A special Interview with Farmer John on Economics

Economics is a subject that infuriates me more than any other subject. The ignorance of the commie/liberal main stream media is obvious. Why we expect to be informed by journalism majors who seem to read little beyond Marx, Menchu and Chomsky is one of America's mysteries. The bird brained Duck seems to have failed this subject as well as basic statitics.

1 Can you explain what a cyclical comodity is? Many economic morons wrongly project straight line price increases into perpetuity. Can you explain in laymans terms why this is wrong.

2 I am greatly appalled by regressive/socialist nanny state taxation. Gasoline taxes adversely impact rural working poor who often drive sixty miles to work. Do gasoline taxes adversely affect rural poor disproportionately?

3 Is socialism theft?

4 Do farm subsidies actually hurt consumers? I am having a hard time seeing Ted Turner as a beneficiary. Why on earth should the production of mohair be subsidized?

5 Did the unions kill their host in the automotive industry?

23 comments:

Brooke said...

I can't wait to see Farmer's answers!

beakerkin said...

A cyclical comodity are those comodities that rise and fall with the economy. Oil, Lumber and steel are all cyclical comodities. Like all comodities their prices fluctuate with market conditions.

The most annoying part of discussing cyclical comodities are with people like the Duck who assume linear price progression. However, as the Duck is a Communist
his understnding of all matters pertaining to markets is warped.

beakerkin said...

I want to thank the farmer for pointing out that agricultural equipment uses alot of fuel. I think that most of the equipment is diesel and as such costs more than regular fuel.

Oil taxes are hidden taxation that we do not think of much like the numbers added into our phone and cable bills. I will let others add in about hidden taxations.

beakerkin said...

The Communist Duck arrives with his cartoon economic class genocide advocacy song and dance.

Agricultural subsidies were meant to help the small farmer who does not exsist in this age. Like most social programs commies like the Duck added categories that were never needed such as Mohair. There should be a means test for all agricultural subsidies that would exclude Sam Donaldson and Ted Commie Turner from feeding at the public trough.

Helping the family farm is a noble cause. This help should not extend to huge agricorporations that should stand on their own. Farm subsidies are welfare run amok.

Always On Watch said...

Beak said, Helping the family farm is a noble cause.

How many of those family farms are actually running and producing? Most of those who have family farms are hurt by the subsidies--or so they say. Also, farming is a risky proposition. I seem to recall hearing a saying about it (distant memory): "If not the locusts, the drought. If not the droughts, the flood."

Many small farmers show a profit on paper, but not in the wallet.

beakerkin said...

AOW

Farm subsidies are an example of why we need to keep Marxist like Ducky away from government. The program was intended to help out small farmers producing products we need. I have no prodlem buying small farmer Bob's soybeans and sending them to Africa or a housing project. What are we suposed to do with Mohair? Use it as a bribe to placate Eurotrash commies to be less anti-american.

The small farmer needs help, but please no more mohair. I think the fashionistas can buy enough mohair without going into my pocket. For crying out loud there should also be a means test.

beakerkin said...

Farmer John

What is the taxpayer supposed to do with surplus Mohair? We can feed the hungry with soybeans and corn but mohair is a bit too much.

Always On Watch said...

Beak,
What is the taxpayer supposed to do with surplus Mohair?

Subsidize mohair sweaters for Dolly Parton?

Sorry. Couldn't help myself from saying that. Must be the neuro medication. ;)

Carry on with the serious discussion now.

beakerkin said...

Farmer John

At least we can feed the poor with excess crops. What on earth do we do with mohair? What is next subsidies for Vermont silk?

Let our agricultural excess feed the hungry. I will not pay for mohair sweaters for yuppies.

beakerkin said...

Farmer John

I am sure Ducky will be spreading this new angle to his caligraphy students.

beakerkin said...

Farmer John

The intent of the farm subsidies was to help the little farmer and to give some of the product to the poor either in the USA or abroad.

Pork products are certainly appreciated in many communities.
The bottom line is not only to support the small farmer but to aid those in genuine need.

Mohair, silk and tobacco are not items that should ever qualify for subsidies. Let those tobacco farmers grow another product.

Even cotton grown in the USA could be shipped to help small start up businesses in countries like Haiti set up small manufacturing concerns. The idea is to use these products for some reasonable purpose.Mohair is a luxury item and should not be subsidized.

nanc said...

now i see what happens when i must go to work!

what bothers me about subsidies is the paying of dairy farmers to THROW their milk out!

we have some friends whose family had a dairy farm and they were paid handily to milk their cows and throw the milk away at a much lower price.

some of these farmers would put the milk into 50 gallon sealable drums and sell it as "sour milk" to hog farmers on the side - which is just this side of criminal.

many of these farmers have now turned to beef cows as it is a much more lucrative business - the government would NEVER order a farmer to kill his cattle in order to subsidize them.

subsidies = welfare and will develop some high class cheats.

i always enjoy a farmer interview. i'll be back later to expound.

AOW! polly darton's sweater? bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha!

beakerkin said...

Farmer John

These questions get worse as the next Farmer John/Beakerkin topic will be love.

You can handle the philosophical side and I will handle the accounting angle. I think that interview will set off even the mild mannered amongst us. DO NOT MIX ACCOUNTING AND LOVE IT IS BLASPHEMY will be the response from our peers.

Captain USpace said...

..
absurd thought -
God of the Universe thinks
communism is SUPER

even though it never works
because we are not robots



absurd thought -
God of the Universe feels
communism is fair

fools can't or won't think it through
idiots just keep scheming
..

beakerkin said...

Ducky

You are too literal US Space makes perfect sense it is sarcasm.

nanc said...

i saw uspace as someone else at autonomist recently...uspace speaks in code - time to call in the codetalkers!

Anonymous said...

One distinct reason for visiting beak's blog is to see him and Ducky get into it. These are two we all need to have show up at the blogger's convention, June 1st in Crystal City VA. I am posting this here becuase I am sure Ducky never knew about it, I hope they really do both show up.

Anonymous said...

and of course one "cyclical commodity" I'd like to see become static is the price of gasoline.

elmers brother said...

My wife's sister and her husband run a fruit farm that has been in their family for 150 years. They have problems with fruit being imported from other countries.

Duhkky you have to know the G-d of the universe before you can know what he says.

beakerkin said...

Kuhnkat

The reality is that the United States is in the business of food didstribution. The government needs to purchase food for the underprivaledged in the USA and for limited famine relief overseas.

I have never seen anything wrong with buying comdities we can use in aid programs from smaller domestic farms. Feeding the domestic poor is part of our responsability as a nation. However, learned deendency is a genuine problem. There are plenty of people in the North country who quietly suplement their meager diet with wild game and some are hungry.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Visitor # 39,988 reporting for duty.

Feeding the domestic poor is part of our responsability as a nation.

Let me see if I can put this nicely...

BULLSHIT!

There are plenty of free bugs crawling around. Most are edible.

beakerkin said...

Kuhnkat

Feeding the poor is not communism and in an economy with winners and losers it sometimes happens. The families that suplement their table with wild game have jobs. The jobs aren't great but they do what they can.

We all agree that the government is supposed to pay for defense and major infrastructure. The majority of people on welfare are children.
Liberterian slogans are nice and there are great truths about learned dependency. However, there are those who have fallen down either via uemployment and to be honest those who can't make it.
Feeding hungry children is not communism. You are correct that the best remedy is growth of business, but in reality there are some who need assistance.

beakerkin said...

Kuhnkat

Do you want to tell me the working poor do not exist. Would you like me to believe the woman who tossed the possum I sent to Allah into the back of her truck is a gourmet.

Poverty exists even in VT and people go hungry quietly. If they are lucky the game warden looks the other way especially if it is done discreetly.

Most of those people eating small game do not recieve much in the way of foodstamps. However it is easier to shoot some meat than to make your own toilet paper.

What do you want to do with hungry children? The churches can only do so much.