A kahanist is a person that desires a theocracy imposed on Israel. A secularist who respects religion but has not been to services in a decade is a poor candidate to be a Kahanist. I have several posts where I expressly advocate a form of Civil law that respects religious terms like marriage. How those posts and my areligious personal life can be construed as Kahanist is a comedic classic?
Kahanists also disrespect the institutions of Western Democracy. Kahane has pointed out there is nothing Jewish in democracy.A perosn who wants to protect those institutions from Communist subversion is not a good candidate to be a Kahanist.
I am also quite open about my desire for Gay people to be left alone and civil unions. These are hardly the positions a Kahanist would take.
Kahanists tend to govern their politics by religious law. For example I view Communists who happen to be Jewish as dangerous death cultist. Kahanists follow the talmudic law when common sense dictates these people are natural traitors.
The reality is that old texts, be they the Koran, Talmud or Manifesto are not the basis to run a productive society. Religious law is meant for our personal lives and hinders economic productivity. The manifesto like all commie creations is best placed in landfills along with their authors.
Kahanists are exagerated by Commie Vermin who see them a Jewish Counter Part to Hamas. This is a hysterical exageration on the part of commies. One has to do a genuine search to find Kahane inspired violence. Barch Goldstei was how many years ago? One can readilly find hundreds of Muslim terror attacks in that time.
I have been approached by these types for two decades. I am not into silly Utopian dreams in their case. However, they are far less dangerous than your kind. I place the notion of creating a Jewish theocracy right up there with the hemp crowd.
Ducky Kindy explain what views expressed on this blog qualify me as a Kahanist?
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From Wiki:
Kahanism is a term used in Israeli political parlance to refer, first of all, to the ideology of Rabbi Meir Kahane,and, more generally, to other right-wing Religious Zionist movements or groups that share a belief in the fundamental tenets of that ideology, chief among them being the idea that the State of Israel should be governed theocratically, should accord full citizenship exclusively to Jews, and that all disloyal citizens should be either deported or allowed to remain as resident aliens with full economic and personal rights, but no political rights.
Based on the above, you don't qualify, Beak. ;)
Well I do like the part about deporting disloyal citizens.
KL
Your clarification is noted. However, I was there in the Soviet Jewry along with plenty of non-religious types.
I 100% disagree with your view of what to do with Jewish Communists. They are a cancer in a healthy society and need to be removed. Holding a door open to those who will slit your throat may be halachic, but imprudent.
I am glad you stopped in. Would you kindly explain to the Duck why I do not qualify as a Kahanist?
The Torah and halachah do not restrict commerce like Shariah. However, I prefer the rule of civil law for a healthy society.
KL
Thank you for your sentiments however, I walk my own path. I will
not be joining the ranks of the Kahanists any time soon.
Do note the policy of this blog is not to post comments from people who post comments on Greg or Gert's blog or host them.
I posted your comments as they were relevant.
Ducky
My family is from the Pale of settlement and some endured the Ukranian famine.
Politically I am an anti-Communist social liberal. My positions are quite similar to that of Freedomnow or Possum.
A patriotic pro-American liberal sees all Utopians as enemies of our Democratic institutions. This is the traditional form of liberalism in the mold of Scoop Jackson. Today's liberals are more akin to fellow travelers.
I walk my own path and distance myself from Utopians who are dangerous Marxists as well as those who I deem inane Kahanists.
I am more concerned about protecting institutions from subversion and workable solutions than dreams.
As far as Islam goes I take an honest look at their history and Culture without the PC prism. Islam is as Islam does and theories about hijacking a religion are absurdities. We can not disconnect what is done in the name of Islam from the religion.
Has there ever been a successful theocracy in man's history?
If so, I am unaware of it.
But..kahanist are correct in that the Arabs are now and always will be the enemies of Israel.
Still, Iran might make this entire discussion mute.
Ducky
Although I have banned MZ, KL and that crowd they are in no way comparable to the genocidal and actual threats posed by Jihadists.
You are off your rocker about Iran.
Iran is apt to give nukes to Hezbollah and you will get armegedon.
AC
Your question is one that I wish Richard Poe were around for. What
the ancients were could be a long discussion that would be interesting.
"Beak makes no attempt to seperate Arab from muslim."
Do Arabs do that themselves? At the time of the Ottoman Empire's collapse (1923) Arab Christians numbered close to 33 percent. Today, less than six percent of the Arab population are Christians. No doubt through the valiant effort of the Muslim faction.
And now Beak is supposed to honour such subtle nuances?
Why?
Just curious!
Beak, I commend you for standing on your own two feet, not many people i see today on Blogs can say that, they either are running with the far right, or the far left.
Sometimes the hardest thing to do is stand for own convictions, in a day and age where Ideology rules, it's good to have a voice of reason.
Rob one of the problems with my association with MZ is people assumed his views were the same as mine. While we both support Israel and that is about it. I do concede his heart is in the right place.
I have always been a moderate of a different stipe.
Ducky
The vast amount of time we discuss Islam we are talking in the context
of Israel or Iraq. I am well aware of the subgroups and other counries that are Muslim.
Pakistan is not a hot topic but I am well versed in all the groups.
These are not hot topics here.
Duck, you are a retard!
Most of us mature with age but at some point your brain vitrified. This is very common among leftists.
They start out shitting their pants, spend their whole life throwing temper tantrums and shitting their pants. And in the end, they go into the home, still shitting their pants.
You have often whined about "dem jooos" that "censored" your little hit piece of a propaganda film. (Bet it was worthy of a place on the mantle with a copy of "The Protocol's".)
Did it ever dawn on you that someone, that previewed that piece of crap, was disturbed buy its blatant Anti-Semitic content and ratted you out instead of creating another blood libel?
I know, it was a traumatic experience, similar to the time I found out that there wasn't a tooth fairy, but you really need to move on.
As far as the Arab/Muslim thing goes, the Iranians are Persians/ Abu Sayyaf, Philippines/ Moro Islamic Liberation Front - the Philippines/ Adolat and Akramiya, Uzbekistan/ Armed Islamic Group, Algeria/ an al-Qaeda linked separatist group in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region/ Islamic Movement of Central Asia - affiliated with Al Qaeda/ Jemaah Islamiyah - Southeast Asia/ Students Islamic Movement of India/ Kurdish-Hizbullah - Turkey.
Of course, in a place like Indonesia, They don't actually have to form separate terrorist organizations. They operate and are armed by the government.
So, you don't hate "all" Jews, just the roughly 80% that don't believe they are the cause of all the problems in the world.
Warren,
They start out shitting their pants, spend their whole life throwing temper tantrums and shitting their pants. And in the end, they go into the home, still shitting their pants.
LOL!!!
As far as Iran goes. Give me a f**king break. Israel and the U.S. are far more threatening to Iran than vice versa and if you expect that they are going to sit still for that then you are simply foolish.
Oh sure. You're all for Iran to have a pre-emptive strike doctrine, Ducky.
Ducky was hooked on applause from the first time he went poo for momma in the potty chair, and he's been shitting everywhere ever since.
"editrix, because the majority of muslims aren't arab."
Then you ought to have said: "Beak makes no attempt to seperate Muslims from Arabs."
And even if you had, I somehow fail to see how the rest of the Muslim world differs from the Arab-Muslim world. They are generally murderous scum and those who are not, comply with the murderous scum.
Everybody who knows me knows, too, how I hate to call people names. But in this case I really have to agree with Warren's moderate assessment of your person. You ARE a retard. And if I read crap like: "Israel and the U.S. are far more threatening to Iran than vice versa and if you expect that they are going to sit still for that then you are simply foolish" I have to add that you are not just a retard, but a suicidal retard to boot. And although that is basically a good thing, you are drawing millions of decent people and a great culture into your own self-hating suicidal urges.
When I started to become interested in the Middle East conflict (that was roughly at the start of the oh-so-daintily-called "Second Intifadah") I found Rabbi Kahane pretty wacky. Now, some years later, I think that every word he said about you and your ilk was true.
Morning, Editrix!
As usual, a susinct* appraisal of plucky and Iran!
tmw
*I know, I know, it's spelled incorrectly, I just don't feel like braving my son's room to find the distionary. I might not get back!
Good afternoon TMW! Never you mind! I only fuss about people's spelling if I have a bone to pick with them, or, as we are saying in German, a chicken to pluck.
Basically, it's petty and mean. ;-)
"Baruch Goldstein was how many years ago?"
Dr. Baruch Goldstein was a paediatrician [sp?] who was desperate because of the many injured children he had to sew up and the many dead ones whom he couldn't help anymore, in spite of all his skills as a doctor.
I don't know whether he even was a Kahanist. And even if yes -- what does it matter?
To compare him with the murderous terrorist Arab scum is preposterous.
He is my hero.
ducky, you seriously underestimate the potential danger of a nuclear Iran.
First off, they have a leader who I believe would welcome Armageddon.
Shiite Islam has its own version of the messianic return -- the reappearance of the Twelfth Imam.
I believe Ahmadinejad is crazy enough to believe that he maybe the 12th Imam.
Second..let's say he isn't crazy and it's all propaganda. Ahmadinejad would still transfer a working nuclear device to Hezbollah (which in reality is part of Iran) who would readily use it in the United States.
The old Cold War strategy of MAD doesn't apply to Iran.
editrix....how plucking a duhkkky?
Ducky, why do you waste your time with empty rhetoric?
You said, "editrix, because the majority of muslims aren't arab."
This point is irrelevant in light of the fact that the majority of Arabs are Muslim and they are the founders of the religion.
If you started to put all the facts into context you would reject your stance on every issue.
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