Wednesday, January 24, 2007

Israel is it's own Country

Israel mostly comes up on this blog when the Duck goes into frequent Anti-semitic mode. Many of you misread my relationship with the Duck. The Duck and I have been having these arguments for over two years. The Duck does have a code of honor and while I vehemently disagree with him it is not personal.

Members of the far left like to chide the USA about meddling in other countries affairs. Of course they turn this logic on its head when it comes to Israel that is supposed to do what we order it to do. My position as a American Patriot of Jewish heritage is let the Israelis handle their own matters.

Jams and I were talking about the UK Guardian's letter writing campaign to Ohio voters that backfired. It seems people in Ohio did not like people overseas lecturing them about what they should do.

On a personal level one of my odd leftie friends sent a journalist from France to interview a Jewish Republican. We met in my girlfriend's appartment on lower Fifth Avenue. The interview started with an accusation that America just told the rest of the world to go to hell. He went on to say it is unfair that the people of the world have no say in the American election. Those who know me off line can predict my response. However, I was quick to remind the journalist that the only opinions that matter on election day are those of US Citizens. If he wants a say become a US Citizen. The discussion did not go well and I reminded the journalist that US Citizens have no say in French elections and to be honest most Americans don't care who your leaders are.

Our friend the Editrix is a very sharp customer. She points out the contradictions inherent in Gert's blog that is supposed to be about the Internet. The blog consists of Eurabian anti-Israel hit posts with a few attacks on pro-Israel Jewish bloggers
and disneyified whitewashing of Islam. Yet the blog hosts a link to Hear O Israel a blog allegedly run by a Right wing Jew. Greg is really a superball who bounces with whatever crowd is around him. His positions tend to change with whatever company he keeps. Around six months back he was a Kahanist who rejected his past to embrace peace. He had a friend Saba who was a Palestinian living in Canada. By all standards she was a decent person, but not someone I agreed with. Greg was mourning because Saba was victimized by terrorist threats. This of course did not stop Greg and his henchmen Gert from making threats against me. Greg of course is a perfect foil for Gert as he has no spine and allows Gert wide lattitude to spout anti-semitic venom.
Left with no friends other than Gert, Greg is attempting to reinvent himself in an act MZ and KL buy hook line and sinker.

The point is that Israelis are a capable people, except for some vile garbage on the far left. A capable people should decide their own future without our smothering them. This doesn't mean that Americans and others shouldn't have opinions. However it is said that opinion are like #%$%^h6 and everyone has one. In this case the only relevant opinion are those of the Israeli people.

Greg illustrates the problem in Israel perfectly. He is so worried about being liked that he makes accomidations for an overbearing Communist anti-semite. The reality is that one can not please this crowd nor should they be obligated to try. Israel should do what it feels is in its best interests and ignore the Elmer Fudd obsessed
far left.

Beamish In 08

14 comments:

Always On Watch Two said...

An aside here...

it is said that opinion are like #%$%^h6 and everyone has one.

Excuses are like...

Robert Bayn said...

Well I do believe this current Administration has said "Screw the Rest of the World", which is fine and dandy, but you can't have GOPBOTS like Rush and Hannity complain everyday that the rest of the world is Anti-America, after we said "Screw You!". Sometimes we bring our own problems on ourselves with our Arrogant American attitude.

Israel should do what is in it's best intrest, as should any Nation.

beakerkin said...

Rob

Like this blog there is a difference between a complaint from you or a Jams and the Duck. Israel is held up to impossible standards and that is wrong.

The United States should do what it has to do. Many of the louded screechimg voices are indeed really
Marxist and there is more to the story.

Robert Bayn said...

Duckwad is just looney, and maybe needs a mental evaluation.

nanc said...

i know another country would play hell trying to tell an iran or north korea what their public policy should be.

i agree - allow israel to be its own country - they already surpass all which is civilized.

Mr. Ducky said...

"They already surpass all which is civilized"?

I'd enjoy an elaboration on that bigoted nonsense.

See Beak, until you tell the red heifer crew to stash it you aren't going to get any civilized discussion. Normal people are simply tired of this stream of bigoted crap, day in, day out.

Also I want someone to tell me what standards that are so odious are applied to Israel.

nanc said...

okay, ducktardo:

u.n. resolutions against israel:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/un.html

see any in there against paliswine? you KNOW israel is held to higher standards which israel LIVES up to! educate yourself. maybe i can find you a version written in calligraphy!

The Merry Widow said...

AoW-My late used to say that an excuse was a skin of Truth stuffed with a lie! I always liked that myself.

tmw

Always On Watch Two said...

TMW,
Definitely cleaner than the saying I mentioned.

Robert Bayn said...

See now thats where you went wrong Nanc,

Using facts on a leftist never works, they don't believe in facts!

nanc said...

i know, rob - as soon as i hit the publish button - i immediately went and beat my head against a brick wall to remind me.

FLORIAN said...

Israel has more of a legitimacy than any of the UN created "arab" states in the ME. Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia--heck even Iran are not a homogeneous ethnic or nationalist nations, but rather a confederation of tribal sand people of many ethnicities, cultures and different linguistic backgrounds.
Any fool who says Israel and Israeli's aren't legitimate needs to re-read history (Pre Alexander the Great). Unfortunately our Imperial Federal Government only teaches the PC version of history--hence the hate Israel crowd gets younger each year.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Robert,

Well I do believe this current Administration has said "Screw the Rest of the World", which is fine and dandy, but you can't have GOPBOTS like Rush and Hannity complain everyday that the rest of the world is Anti-America, after we said "Screw You!". Sometimes we bring our own problems on ourselves with our Arrogant American attitude.

Show me in the US Constitution where it says non-American countries have the right to bitch without permission.

Possum said...

And just how did America say "Screw you" to the rest of the world? By electing the president we chose? How dare us!

The French and other leftists apparantly don't know what democracy is. The mush brains think people not ruled by a government have a right to pick it.

What a flaming farce!

The stupendous arrogance and hubris of thinking they have a right to any say in whom we elect to lead us is breathtaking.

And, as always the punch line is projection: the arrogant French and other Europeans call us the arrogant ones. That's how they cleanse themselves of their sin of arrogance. In fact, if you check, you will notice that they never hit one of our real faults. Everything they accuse us of is one of THEIR flaws = just projection.