The United States has not taken the war on terrorism seriously. We have allowed a group of Witless Communists and Anarchists to violate two laws. It is against US law for individuals to engage in their own foreign policy. It is also against the law for any individual to be associated with terrorists. The members of ISM clearly violate the laws prohibing private individuals from conducting their own foreign policy. It is becoming readilly apparent they are enabling Hamas terrorists with their activities.
The following punishments should be handed out.
Colleges that allow the ISM or CPT on Campus should get no research grants and Federal backing for student loans should be removed for a year.
Faculty: Any person over twenty five shall be prosecuted as a felon. They can be given two choices five years in jail or denaturalization and deportation. Hopefully, most will opt for the latter.
Students: Should also beprosecuted as felons and offered two years in prison or deportation.
The members of ISM should not be locked up in a country club. They should be sent to the same prisons as bank robbers, organized criminals and violent social pariahs.
Let them continue to whine as the misfits of society exact daily "social justice" upon them for violating US law. At any time in their jail time one of these vermin can renounce their citizenship and be deported to North Korea.
Prosecute members of the ISM to the full extent of the law. If Commies want to violate our laws then they should pay the price. As soon as the ISM or CPT members return the proceedings should begin.
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The members of ISM should not be locked up in a country club. They should be sent to the same prisons as bank robbers, organized criminals and violent social pariahs.
ISM won't like that!
Seems fair to me. ;)
Time to cut off funding ISM. Past time.
Maybe if funding is cut off they'll all go out and find jobs, therefor rendering their activities null and void because they are too busy trying to eat! Paul's advice to Timothy rings true, "he who will not work shall not eat!" Hunger has a way of waking one up to reality! That and living in their VW buses that are rusting away! Maybe then they will get a real look at the "working class" and quit with the stupid theories!
tmw
That is a great idea Ducky. It will make the roundup easier.
Here we go again, the attempt of the Duck to compare Jews ( me and Nazis). It is against the law for private citizens to interfere in foreign policy.
Moreeover, the members of this group are in violation of this law and should pay for their crimes.
Either jail time or forfieture of citizenship and deportation.
Where have I ever advocated violence. Ducky if I ever did turn violent your kind would be at greater risk than any other.
Farmer John on the loose!!!!!!!!!!!!! Run, run for your brains!!!!!!!!!
LOL! You are funny, FJ!
tmw
The ISM goes to a war zone and openly sides with combatants.
Not only are Palestinian militants engaged in a terrorist war, but they have killed American citizens and kidnapped many others (as well as those from other countries).
I think the solution should be worked out between the Israeli and US governments.
The worst I would like to see happen to ISM activists is their passports get taken away from them. Anything more will make them martyrs.
P.S. If Ducky ever gets in trouble I would love to see him sentenced to Bible study classes (oh, I am cruel).
great, yet somewhat windy, article by lee kaplan at fpm today on this very subject:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24377
lorena's there.
fern - now would that be punishment or pure joy? it's in the eyes of the beholder you know - i'd like a life sentence of some of that!
Sadly Freedom Now has inadvertently
revealed a future plot from our series Urban Commie Hunter. That was how we were going to have TMW in her cameo role. I will have to rewrite the episode.
For my next trick I will help the NY Times leak top secret information pertaining to national security.
Stay tuned for the next episode of Freedom Later...
Ducky my answer would be the same if they supported Israel. They are interfering in US foriegn policy. I
do not limit this to Israel. Peru's big mistake was sparing Lori Berenson. She should have been given the death penalty.
Moreover Duncy your right to freedom of speech ends in US territory. You do not have a right to interfere in the affairs of soveriegn nations. It is time Marxist vermin pay the price for violation of US law.
They are US citizens aiding combatants in a war zone.
You are intelligent enough to figure out the implications of that.
It doesnt matter if their cause is wrong or right. Just stick with the facts...
I'll make it easy for you, plucky, it's called TREASON! Is that clear enough? TREASON is a Capital Offense, the consequences of a guilty verdict is DEATH! We are playing pattycake with traitors which is the wrong message to send!
I come from a long line of patriots and we don't take TREASON well!
tmw
Treason is treason, and the problem isn't prosecuting it, it is showing the will to prosecute! So it isn't my reading of the jurisprudence, it is the WILL to call treason what it is, just as we have lost the will to call Evil what it is!
tmw
If you read my comment above I agreed with Beak that something needs to be done about the ISM warmongers, but I disagree on the method.
I think the solution should be worked out between the Israeli and US governments.
The worst I would like to see happen to ISM activists is their passports get taken away from them.
Time for your Bible Study!
Ducky
I would like to start some treason trials for the members of Code Pink who gave money to our enemies in Fallujah. The people responsable for that choice should face the death penalty. Let the far left be held accountable.
Nor Ducky is this a matter of befriending Pseudostinians. This is a matter of aiding terrorism. This activity should be grounds for minimum jail time upon return to the USA. If the ISM creeps choose to renounce their citizenship, no loss.
plucky- This has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with law and the Constitution. And the Constitution has specified what treason is. This is about the Law of the Land and treason is against the Law! If you cannot look up what treason is and see it for yourself and call actions treasonous, you are not an American.
tmw
Ducky
Did end of times produce Killing Fields, Boat People, Planned Starvation and class genocide. I have zero problems with true Christians. With a record like that you should be the last to point fingers.
Any ISM member who stands as human shields in front of Hamas or Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade smuggling tunnels and bomb factories is providing material support in the form of personnel for a US State Department Designated Foreign Terrorist Organization.
now plucky needs to give us one of his "i read the gospel" sermons...
You know what's tragic about the death of Rachel Corrie?
Israel never got reimbursed by Corrie's parents for the cost of disinfecting the 'dozer blade.
beamish
I guess then Al-Queada could also claim reimbursement for their blades being disenfected by Daniel Pearl's blood.
I mean, what's the difference using your standard?
beaker
"The members of ISM clearly violate the laws prohibing private individuals from conducting their own foreign policy."
How is ISM conducting "foreign policy"?
Please explain in detail.
Uptownseteve,
Does such a hideously stupid question deserve an answer?
Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded.
Rachel Corrie tried to stop a bulldozer from wrecking a terrorist safehouse and smuggling tunnel with her face, seriously putting the driver of the bulldozer at risk of being infected by whatever bloodborne pathogens drive leftists to be complete fucking morons.
beamish
Thanks for explaining the difference.
Tell me though.
The bulldozer ran over Corrie and checked the so-called "terrorist safehouse".
Did they find any TERRORISTS???
What dont you understand about a weapons smuggling tunnel?
No Uptownseteve. The IDF was just cruising along in their bulldozer and decided to randomly demolish a house. (sarcasm) Are you an idiot, Uptownseteve?
The home demolished by the IDF that Rachel Corrie commited suicide in front of had been determined to contain an entrance to a terrorist weapons smuggling tunnel.
Ooooohhhhhh
So now Corrie committed suicide by being crushed by an Israeli bulldozer?
And did the Israelis discover any weapons???
Any terrorists?
HOW WAS CORRIE'S MURDER ANY LESS HEINOUS THAN PEARL'S????
beamish
"The IDF was just cruising along in their bulldozer and decided to randomly demolish a house. (sarcasm)".
The IDF probably decided that there were some Palestinians in the house and it wouldn'd hurt their mission to mow it down.
Corrie got in the way.
They obviously felt that it was risky and unreasonable to have some able bodied Israeli soldiers to get out of the bulldozer and apprehend this young girl who blocked their path.
NAH, just crush her.
"Are you an idiot, Uptownseteve?"
No beamish.
YOU ARE.
Uptown
You have been over the Rachel Corrie incedents at FPM. I wish the Israeli government killed her as she was aiding and abetting terrorists. She had no business as a US citizen getting involved in a Civil War of another country. As a communist turd her death is an improvement.
The Corrie situation was ruled to be an accident. Only communist idiots should try and stop bulldozers with their heads. Unlike civilian bulldozers military ones have a limited field of vision.
Why was Corrie interfering and interjecting herself into other countries civil matters. Who appointed Rachel Commie to conduct US foreign policy. She was violating the law and deserved hard prison time. I do not mourn her and she deserved her fate.
Don't give me that, Uptownseteve.
I don't want to impugn your motives for giving moral equivalence between death caused by terrorists who kidnapped and murdered a journalist and death caused by a "peace activist" who committed suicide trying to stop a bulldozer from collapsing a terrorist smuggling tunnel with her face.
That Rachel Corrie died while knowingly playing "human shield" to a terrorist smuggling tunnel is documented fact. Undeniable.
So, take your pick. If you're aware that there was a smuggling tunnel and making this ludicrous moral equivalence, you're despicably evil.
If you're not aware that there was a smuggling tunnel, given the abundant proof available to those who care to research it, you're despicably stupid.
Let me know which one you are.
I will save you the trouble despicably stupid.
Uptown says some stupid things, but at least most of the time he repeats a lot propaganda made by people smarter than him.
However, this is just an incredibly stupid quote,
HOW WAS CORRIE'S MURDER ANY LESS HEINOUS THAN PEARL'S????
Did the IDF capture Corrie and force her to pose in front of a camera while they taunted her with religious verse?
Is there any doubt that the killing of Pearl was an accident?
Was Pearl an active participant in a group that was helping weapon smugglers and transporting terrorists. A group that uses itself as human shields for combatants in a war zone?
Please think before hitting the Publish button or just cut and paste comments from websites that make more intelligent arguments than you...
My, my.
Ducks ass and Lil' stevie, two pin headed morons for the price of one.
I've got news for you. You have a huge blind spot in front of the blade and can't see anything on the ground behind it, even in an unarmored one! Your eyes are about 14 feet off the ground. I was working on one just two months ago.
All the guys were commenting what a stupid ass Corrie was to lay down in front of one.
i've access to a large key ring FULL of cat, kobelco and john deere keys...they're the universal kind...hmmmmmm...think we could have the equipment back by daybreak?
it's okay - i've already given the nsa permission to spy on everything i say.
Good suggestions Beak. Jimmy Carter needs to face the same charges--on multiple counts.
This country enforces every piddling, unjust, and oppressive law at the local level, but allows high treason at the national level. Men are sitting in jail for arguing with their harpy wives, while ISM and other traitors break law after law with impunity--laws that have been on the books far longer than the PC atrocities enforced with zeal by our corrupt criminal justice system.
As George Rishmawi a Canadian Palestinian who together with Adam Shithead-Shapiro (a New Yorker) established the International Solidarity Movement said wisely:
When Palestinians get shot by Israeli soldiers, no one is interested anymore. But if some of these foreign volunteers get shot or even killed, then the international media will sit up and take notice.
International Solidarity Movement Information Pack requsts from the kids sent to Israel:
"As an ISM volunteer we expect you to be in contact with local activists and leadership(HAMAS, Fateh etc) and to respect the guidance of those around you. Respect for their views and guidance should be your highest priority."
Adam Shapiro in Palestine Chronicle, January 2002:
"The Palestinian resistance must take on a variety of characteristics, both non-violent and violent. But most importantly it must develop a strategy involving both aspects."
Susan Barclay, the ISM organizer deported by Israel after she hid Islamic Jihad terrorist Shadi Sukiya in the ISM office in Jenin, told the Seattle Post Intelligencer that, "she knowingly worked with representatives from Hamas and Islamic Jihad -- terrorist groups that sponsor suicide bombings and exist, according to their charters, to demolish the Jewish state entirely." (Seattle Post Intelligencer, Thursday March 20, 2003, Activist's death focuses spotlight on Mideast struggle, By Sam Skolnik, Seattle Post-Intelligencer reporter)
Additionaly: ISM acted in co-operation and on instructions of
the Palestinian National and Islamic Forces during
The announcement read "Join the ISM, the Palestinian National and Islamic Forces and the Apartheid Wall Defense Committee on many occasions (Televised.
The Palestinian National and Islamic Forces is a coalition,that includes the following terrorist organizations: Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Palestinian National Liberation Movement {Fateh), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine {PFLP}; Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine {DFLP}; Palestinian People's Party {PPP}; Palestinian Democratic Union {FIDA}; Palestinian Popular Struggle Front; Palestinian Liberation Front; Islamic Jihad Movement; Arab Liberation Front; Palestinian Arab Front; Popular Front-General Command; Islamic National Salvation Party; and Popular Liberation War Pioneers.
Furthermore ISM provided funds (charity gifts) to the families of many suicide bombers (actively endorsing murder).
Oooops: "during the Apartheid Wall protest"
Beakerkin:
Off the point, but I have no other way of contacting you.
I have just noticed that you haven't reciprocated with a link for my website, A New Dark Age Is Dawning This is surely an oversight on your part, since I have had a link up to your site on mine for quite some time.
I'd appreciate your assistance.
By the way, I agree with you: It is time to get tough with these guys. Too soft we have been with all these people out to destroy our societies.
"HOW WAS CORRIE'S MURDER ANY LESS HEINOUS THAN PEARL'S????"
That is so incrediby stupid as to defy description.
As to Corrie's lying down in front of a bulldozer (Warren has explained the logistics above)...Didn't anybody teach her better than to play in the ROAD?
Having grown up on a farmette, I knew from the time I could toddle to stay away from being in the path of the tractor, especially when the snow blower was attached.
Now let me see if Im understanding Bird Brain and Up Town. I catch you on the rustlers side of the fence protecting them and Im supposed to give you a pass. Sorry fellas it dont work that way. I catch you on the rustlers side of the fence protecting them you are in my eyes one of them and you will be introduced to my little friend Maggie (357). You will be dealt with just as they are.
I love how people like Ducky and Up Town who scream about religion in schools and in Government want to promote and protect a people who would do far worse than introduce prayer in school and in the courts. The goal of these people is creating a Islamic world not just a little country with boundries. And when people like Ducky, UP Town and the DNC complain about the religion aspect of it they will be dealt with accordingly. OFF With their Heads.
I know, I know, if we just let them alone and let them have what they want they will leave us alone. MMMHMMMM I think the World heard that out of Nevil Chamberlin when he waved that nice little piece of paper and said "We Have Peace In Our Time". Seems people thought if we just let Hitler have what he wanted he would leave the rest of the world alone.
In my eyes any one who aides my enemy is My Enemy. And since they are such peace lovers I will accomidate them accordingly. A peaceful man with a peaceful gun and you find yourself in a peaceful grave. :)
Ducky you should really take your Berkah and Prayer rug and go home to your Cave.
I'm with you on this one Beak! Have any of these P's.O.S. blown themselves up yet?
Morgan
I'm sick and tired of people who WILL NOT call something what it is! Wrong IS wrong, lawlessness IS lawlessness, Evil IS Evil, lying IS lying, stealing IS stealing and TREASON IS REASON! Oh, and muder IS murder, but suicidal actions that gets an idiot killed IS suicide! And plucky is not an American citizen, he may pay taxes and have been born here, but his heart is not American.
Good morning, G*D bless and Maranatha!
tmw
'scuse me! TREASON not reason!
tmw
Does this mean they can stay or will your brownshirts expel them?
I think the term 'brownshirts' fits Hezbollah like a glove (including their salute) not Beak.
And they (Hezbollah) can be treated exactly the same way as the Nazis were after the war.
Nice trials for the elite followed by hanging.
Jail terms fot the middle rank and de-brainwashing for the rest.
The same applies for the likes of ISM and all active communists.
Ducky
My list is for law breakers. Amnesty International is just a Commie propaganda outfit. If they violate laws out they go.
The members of ISM are violating the laws and should be jailed or deported.
Beak, great post. I wouldn't be surprised if the word ISM really stood for "Idiots Supporting Murderers". They have never truly been about peace - they have been caught red handed fully supporting the terorists who want to destroy Israel.
For anyone interested, here is a great website dedicated to taking down the ISM: http://www.stoptheism.com
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