Sunday, September 10, 2006

There are no aethiests in Foxholes

Not known amongst outsiders is that my people prepare for death in two ways. The most common way is the affirmation of faith. The Shema is found in Cinema in unlikely places as the Sands of Iwo Jima or in most fiction.

Less well known is the proclimation of belief in the Messiah, Ani Mamin. This was the song that I sang as I departed lower Manhattan. I was never in any real danger, but nobody knew that at the time.

The notion that the buildings could fall hadn't dawned on me yet. I was a survivor of the 93 explosion we were told the buildings couldn't fall. Still even then we knew this was no accident and we did not know what was next. Shocked and dazed and fleeing home the song Ani Mamin just came naturally to me.

Hebrew is not my native language but I do not struggle to sing that haunting melody.
The Jews like Christians believe in the Messiah, just we are waiting for him to show up and Christian await his return. The Messianism is more commonly associated with Chasidic sects.

I am mostly secular, but when my time ended I reverted back to faith as I knew it. What will the Marxist poultry sing in his hour "the internationale" or an obscure song from a French Film nobody has ever heard of.

The singing of the haunting Ani Mamin is ironic. Messianism in a vortex of death. The best of man brought out by an act of pure evil. Patriotsim reborn amidst the smell of pure evil and sedition and bigotry from the usual culprits in Union Square.
The day of 9-11 was filled with contrasts and irony. The weeks ahead saw the far left stab America in the back and blame the Jews in Union Square. If one checks the Newsmax archives blaming the Jews and Israel started on 9-13.

My faith was in the Country I love and serve, my faith was in the messiah to come, my duty was to the woman I love and to my family. This is who I am and what I am about.

While I affirmed my faith so did the sons of treason and sedition. Their faith in a genocidal failed philosopher and the means justify the end were on display then. At the time we believed 15,000 of my fellow NYers were incinerated by the Sons of Allah.
The Sons of treason held a Nuremburg rally and blamed Israel, the Jews and a Capitalist Cabal for the worst attack in American history.

I have my faith, you have yours, but the Sons of Marx have theirs. They imagine that sowing division and siding with our enemies will usher in their Utopia and your hell.
If you ever needed to know that they are evil just remember Union Square on that Satuday amidst the smell of pure evil,they struck. NYers were incinerated by religious zealots and the Sons of Treason blamed the Jews, Israel, Capitalism and everyone except the actual culprits.They have no faith, they are a cult of political opportunism.

105 comments:

The Merry Widow said...

When you have nothing to hold onto, nothing you believe in but what is here and now, it leaves you with nothing but temporal power. When you turn to the Faith of your Fathers(Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), to the Messiah, you turn to the Real. That gives you everything and temporal power is a shadow, a joke, dust and ashes. The first wind blows it away! When you have the Reality behind the Shema and the Ani Mamin, Messiah, HaShem you have life and hope and every good gift! plucky, uppity, jobro, what do they have? Wind and shadows, dust and ashes!
They may have this world's wealth, but what good will it do them in the End? The doctor who attended the Marquis de Sade's deathbed, swore never to attend the death of an unbeliever again! de Sade felt the fires of everlasting Hell burnning his feet before he died in agony! That is the fate of these three, but believers have something good to hold onto and IT holds them securely! A future and a hope.

tmw

Purple Avenger said...

I don't really worry about them too much. There's plenty of room in hell for them and the refund policy isn't so good once you've made it there.

nanc said...

one door in - no doors out.

Batya said...

beautiful post

those who haven't "survived" haven't a clue, since we never know how we'll really react and feel

beakerkin said...

Batya I should hit you or MZ up for a more formal translation of Ani Mamin. In general the song is about the belief in Moshiach.

When the words are sung they are hauning and almost surreal. However, the words just came to me as if almost a reflex. I am secular in my private life, but I acknowledge the existence of God.
I am not the first person to ever sing that song under dificult circumstances. I am certain many others have sung it after. Luckily, my singing was not needed,
but nobody knew it at the time. The singing of the song had a calming effect, but I was out of harms way in moments.

Elmer's Brother said...

I hate to fly and often sing my favorite hymns and choruses as the plane is taking off and landing. I know the comforting effect spiritual songs can have.

MissingLink said...

Their faith in a genocidal failed philosopher and the means justify the end were on display then.
Their lives are based on lies. They live false make believe dreams as reality.
The are denied the joy of real life - ultimate punishment.

The Merry Widow said...

Felis- Exactlly! Everything they believe, follow and advocate is based on lies! No wonder they are doing the Devil's work, kill, steal and destroy. That is what they do, they cannot do otherwise! No wonder they are joyless, unsatisfied and what is coming for eternity is more and worse! Jihadist just clutch the lies tighter. The victims of 9/11 are like the rings in a pond, ever moving outward, affecting more and more people. We were all robbed that day. Nothing can restore what was torn from us, but we can and need to remember!

tmw

beakerkin said...

Felis

You are on target as usual.

Maybe we take the good around us each and every day for granted. Does it take an act of unspeakable evil for us to notice the best of man. Does man rise to the occasion at the right time?

I do not need or want Utopia in this world even if it were possible. This belongs to the messianic age and the world to come. All those who ssek salvation by elevating man to god and seeking it in the present are fool, dangerous fools.

TMW

No matter where I go or how long I live 9-11 will journey with me as a companion. It will not define my life or me, but I will always have to deal with the sincere questions.
I can not even escape the cranks up here. The other day they were out in force on a local radio show.

The locals are very good about it.
An idiotic Quebecois was running his mouth and the locals told him finnish your drink and go. Most of those who ask are well meaning, but I tell them if you are looking for special wisdom, I have none.

Always On Watch said...

Beak,
Shocked and dazed and fleeing home the song Ani Mamin just came naturally to me.

Of course! In such a moment of crisis, we return to our spiritual roots. That's God calling us.

I pray that none of us ever face such a crisis again, but I think that we will. The left won't have it any other way.

On 9/11, I wasn't running. Rather, I was filling the bathtub and praying at the same time; after that, I pulled out my great uncle's flag from the cedar chest. This was the flag used at his burial at Arlington Cemetery and had 48 stars; I hung this huge flag from the eaves of my front porch, and there this special flag stayed for a few weeks until I got another flag to hang there. I still have a flag hanging from my eaves, but it's had to be replaced at least three times because of the weather here. No longer do I fly the American flag only around July 4th, Veterans Day, and Memorial Day.

Mr. Ducky said...

Actually Beak, I'm rather fond of "Amazing Grace" and various shape note hymns.

Mr. Ducky said...

We will all go on. Those who do not believe in Mahatma Gandhi's statement that "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" will suffer from their own karma. This is the law of Being. No human court can bring justice to this incalculable act of violence.

beakerkin said...

So sayeth an advocate for class genocide.I suppose those towers were hit by anti-NEA Randoids or by Pro life poultry.

Lets not forget who commits this type of attrocity with regularity.
Lets not forget who has been rationalizing this criminal behavior for years even as it lands on our doorstep. Lets placate every one of their outlandish grievences and pat them on the head as more die. The Marxist game of pretending that terrorism is just a tool of the ill equiped dates back to Vietnam.
I grow weary of the Marxist filth in our country. If you think you are superior to me you are deluded.
You are just as evil as the jihadis, you just have better PR.

Mr. Ducky said...

Beak, you are a fool. An absolute fool and an idiot to boot.

There is no call to restrict self defense. Of course you find the groups that are responsible and eliminate them.

However, you are so blind that you can't reason because of your hatred. You just pile more onto the heap.

Farmer John said...

ducky,

The Mahatma's strategy of engaging the West through the practice of civil-disobedience and non-violence only works against societies who hold those values paramount. It was the 1st succesful WAR strategy specifically targetting and exploiting western values and moralities (he had learned them intimitely while attending university in the UK). This is why all your modern peace-studies programs are completely valueless (useless) against the Islamic sexual warfare we face today. The ObL's of the world have a new and extremely effective wartime strategy based upon exploitation of democratic values and UN Power structures and that turn the contemporary Gandhi's of the West into mere useful idiots (sorry if I offend those who tested out on AoW's test as Gandhi). We are being manipulated by a very clever Sunni extremist sect that wishes to dominate Persia and other religious minorities in the region and seeks to manipulate the Power of the western world to achieve its' ends.

ObL needed US Power to break the Middle East stalemate and achieve victory. That is why he lead us there, and THAT is precisely where Bush FOILED the scheme. He "liberated" the Shi'a instead of pulling a Churchill and restoring a Sunni dominated authoritarian regime in Iraq. The ObL's need chaos and war if they are to seize power in the region, but they did not count on Bush uniting and empowering the Shi'a, ObL's real target. Bush's move into Iraq made ObL's gambit much more expensive than he planned.

ObL spent many years Afghanistan and the Sudan learning the craft of manipulating democratic power structures to overthrow UN dominated democratic power structures.

We were to be his tool. The Afghani's were not to be left to idle out the fight in peace. He needed jihadi recruits for his planned war in Pakistan to obtain nuclear weapons. He played our moral values like a fiddle, and we danced to his tune by jumping into Afghanistan.

Shakespeare, "Othello"

IAGO: Come on, come on; you are pictures out of doors, Bells in your parlors, wild-cats in your kitchens, Saints m your injuries, devils being offended, Players in your housewifery, and housewives' in your beds.

DESDEMONA: O, fie upon thee, slanderer!

IAGO: Nay, it is true, or else I am a Turk: You rise to play and go to bed to work.

EMILIA: You shall not write my praise.

IAGO: No, let me not.

DESDEMONA: What wouldst thou write of me, if thou shouldst praise me?

IAGO: O gentle lady, do not put me to't; For I am nothing, if not critical.

DESDEMONA: Come on assay. There's one gone to the harbour?

IAGO: Ay, madam.

DESDEMONA: I am not merry; but I do beguile The thing I am, by seeming otherwise. Come, how wouldst thou praise me?

IAGO: I am about it; but indeed my invention Comes from my pate as birdlime does from frize; It plucks out brains and all: but my Muse labours, And thus she is deliver'd. If she be fair and wise, fairness and wit, The one's for use, the other useth it.

DESDEMONA: Well praised! How if she be black and witty?

IAGO: If she be black, and thereto have a wit, She'll find a white that shall her blackness fit.

DESDEMONA: Worse and worse.

EMILIA: How if fair and foolish?

IAGO: She never yet was foolish that was fair; For even her folly help'd her to an heir.

DESDEMONA: These are old fond paradoxes to make fools laugh i' the alehouse. What miserable praise hast thou for her that's foul and foolish?

IAGO: There's none so foul and foolish thereunto, But does foul pranks which fair and wise ones do.

DESDEMONA: O heavy ignorance! thou praisest the worst best. But what praise couldst thou bestow on a deserving woman indeed, one that, in the authority of her merit, did justly put on the vouch of very malice itself?

IAGO: She [FJ's America] that was ever fair and never proud,Had tongue at will and yet was never loud,Never lack'd gold and yet went never gay, Fled from her wish and yet said 'Now I may,' She that being anger'd, her revenge being nigh, Bade her wrong stay and her displeasure fly, She that in wisdom never was so frail To change the cod's head for the salmon's tail; She that could think and ne'er disclose her mind,
See suitors following and not look behind, She was a wight, if ever such wight were,--

DESDEMONA: To do what?

IAGO: To suckle fools and chronicle small beer.

DESDEMONA: O most lame and impotent conclusion! Do not learn of him, Emilia, though he be thy husband. How say you, Cassio? is he not a most profane and liberal counsellor?

CASSIO: He speaks home, madam: You may relish him more in the soldier than in the scholar.

beakerkin said...

Tell me Ducky what makes the enablers of terrorists any better than the criminals itself. Tell me that you do not rationalize every one of these attrocities with a crank theory about the dispossed.
Tell me why rational people should hold advocates of class slaughter
and sedition in any light other than contempt.

You are so worried about the Randoids. Did Randoids send a soul to Gulags, Killing Fields?

I am a Cold Warrior and I do not mince words. The actions of your peers in the moments after 9-11 say it all.

Tell those kids in Beslan your crank concerns about hating jihadis. You can't tell them anything can you. What type of vermin shoot naked kids in the back? Jihadis and the Sons of treason behave like that.

The Merry Widow said...

plucky- If you would learn to master clay, would you not go to a potter? If you would learn hate, get yourself to those who dance at the death of innocents. Instead of get thee to a nunnery, get thee hence to a jihadist camp. There you will learn the art of hate! If you can't stand the heat...

tmw

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Ducky,

How dare you quote that fucking dhimmi Mahatma Gandhi on September 11th!

If not for his "land for peace" deal, there would be no Pakistan for Osama Bin Laden to hide in.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

But, that's India's karma. Thankfully it was mitigated somewhat by an assasination.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Although, Ghandhi's assasination leaves something to be desired. He had a chance for last words to his god that might have otherwise robbed from him had his brains been blown out as they should have been.

Farmer John said...

...and you're right beamish. Gandhi liberated India... and then the Moslem's liberated themselves from Gandhi...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Farmer John,

Keep in mind it was a Hindu patriot that offed Ghandhi.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

..and that the holiest sites of Hinduism were in what is now Pakistan...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

..and that Ghandhi was a reliable puppet of Islamic extremists even during the days of British rule...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

...even as British recruited Muslim troops were slaughtering Hindus left and right...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Grrrr. Fuck Ghandhi.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

And fuck his "biographical" whitewash movie too, which is probably Ducky's only exposure to the history there.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

When Ghandhi was shot, he was campaigning for HALF of India's treasury to be GIVEN to Pakistan. This after they ethnic cleansed "Pakistan" of Hindus, and destroyed most of the Vedic pilgrimage sites.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Sorry, I'm ranting. It happens when people refer to Ghandhi without mentioning the fact that he was a fucking idiot appeaser of genocide.

Farmer John said...

...think of all that Saudi money poured into Pakistan's madrassas. ObL was looking to harvest the planted Wahhabi seeds of Pakistan and surround the Shi'a... including use of the Afghani Taliban against the only organized force large enough to prevent the establishment of an Islamic caliphate and compete with the Sunni's for its' control...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Oh, butr to be sure, that's probably why the Left just loves the bastard.

Farmer John said...

ObL is a Saudi Prince in exile...

a Saudi Prince...

Prince...

Saudi...

How many Saudi's attacked the WTC & pentagon?

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Nothing fires up the Left's passion like the chance to celebrate the life of those who aid, abet, and commit genocide. That kind of shit wins Oscars.

Farmer John said...

The towley-ban and Pakistani's...

and America...

were his Useful Idiots!

Farmer John said...

His allegiance is to his tribe. He wants to be a sultan, not some insignificant prince 300 steps away from the throne.

Make a movie about that ducky. How America's Left & Right got chumped!

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

FJ,

I think you credit OBL with too much wisdom.

OBL's war is a exiled Arabian civil war.

It's the Sauds playing the sides against the middle.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

nevermind, FJ, we were posting simultaneously.

The same thought.

Jinx!

Farmer John said...

No, beamish. ObL is a battle-hardenned war chief. The current crop of Saudi kings' asses have been warming cushions for the last eighty years. ObL's ass has been sitting on rocks inside caves since the 70's...

I say we hit the entire bin Laden Clan tomorrow.

Farmer John said...

...errrr

Yep simultaneous posting sux!

Farmer John said...

...we haven't been hit in 5 years because he wants us out now, not in. The rest of the West doesn't get it.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

FJ,

Did you hear that we have one and a half times more untapped oil reserves in American territory that we did two weeks ago.

Seems the Gulf of Mexico is full of treasure.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

We could do with dethroning the Sauds and doing some tribal empowering of our own in the Hidden Caliphate.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

But, we're still in the middle of helping "Iraq" in its war with "Iran."

Farmer John said...

Some select fables about foxes from Aesop...

A Fox had by some means got into the store-room of a theatre. Suddenly he observed a face glaring down on him and began to be very frightened; but looking more closely he found it was only a Mask such as actors use to put over their face. "Ah," said the Fox, "you look very fine; it is a pity you have not got any brains."

or

When first the Fox saw the Lion he was terribly frightened, and ran away and hid himself in the wood. Next time however he came near the King of Beasts he stopped at a safe distance and watched him pass by. The third time they came near one another the Fox went straight up to the Lion and passed the time of day with him, asking him how his family were, and when he should have the pleasure of seeing him again; then turning his tail, he parted from the Lion without much ceremony.

or

By an unlucky chance a Fox fell into a deep well from which he could not get out. A Goat passed by shortly afterwards, and asked the Fox what he was doing down there. "Oh, have you not heard?" said the Fox; "there is going to be a great drought, so I jumped down here in order to be sure to have water by me. Why don't you come down too?" The Goat thought well of this advice, and jumped down into the well. But the Fox immediately jumped on her back, and by putting his foot on her long horns managed to jump up to the edge of the well. "Good-bye, friend," said the Fox, "remember next time,

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I mean, if we're going to remake the Middle East in Our Image, why not make wars between tribes as silly sounding as wars between North Carolina and South Carolina...

er...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Damn Republicans and their zeal for liberation...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

wink wink

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

See, 9/11 was supposed to happen in February of 1993...

But Ramzi Yousef didn't have a big enough bomb to spread the intifada...

Farmer John said...

...Never trust the advice of a man in difficulties."

I still believe Iraq controls Iran.

But then Aesop might argue with me... if he were a fox.

It was the secular-Sunni Saddam who took the 1st swing at Persia in 78/9 with the fall of the Shah.

America had long been an obstacle on the road to a caliphate with him... but once the Shah was gone, an opportunity presented itself...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

And 2001 was too late because Americans were done with Democrats by then...

Farmer John said...

Aesop... One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I am sure they are sour."

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Of course "Iraq" controls "Iran." With Islam, it's all about who's charging admission at the "holy sites."

Farmer John said...

beamish...

before or after 1861?

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

..and wiping out the competition...

Farmer John said...

and yes, beamish...

The Shi'a "shaking-off" or Intifada of 2005.

Who say's there's only one...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

before or after 1861?

And during!

Did you know Alabama had a county that remained loyal to the Union throughout the Civil War?

History is more detailed than a textbook, and human events more so.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Of course there's more than one intifada. Islam, after all, is just a business model.

Farmer John said...

...engaging in free-market cut-throat competition. Two foxes with their eyes on the same hen-house!

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Fully developed by a racketeer extraordinaire...

Farmer John said...

Who hate the Jews because the Jews don't need to use force to take-over (they make them look "bad", in their practice of tribal ethics, literally)

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

And if you smash all the idolized hens in the henhouse, and tell the foxes to worship the henhouse or die?

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

They might even earn the right to franchise to Karbala, Najaf, Jerusalem...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

...as long as everyone prays toward the corporate henhouse 5 times a day and pays a visit to the accounting office there at least once in their lifetimes...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

the corporate HQ henhouse... where it all started in Mecca...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

When the fox finally got inside the henhouse, and cleaned it out...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I like this fox metaphor. I hope Nanc doesn't wring our necks.

Farmer John said...

...imagine reciting the corporate advertisement 5 times a day... it sure beats any Orwellian two minute hate in terms of mind control...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

And all hail the fox that controls all the empty henhouses!

Farmer John said...

I'm tired of being played. It's time the Sunni and Shi'a stopped using Jews and Americans as tools and proxies...

Time to put the contenders for the heavyweight crown in the ring. where's Don King, anyway?

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Although more accurately, the Bible describes the personnel office of this corporation as donkeys, not foxes (the Bible is is, after all, a prophetic work):

The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery.

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

She gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: "You are the God who sees me," for she said, "I have now seen the One who sees me."

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Who knew the Democratic Party was founded by an Egyptian slave girl?

Farmer John said...

A lesson for Osama from Aesop...

The Lion, the Fox and the Ass entered into an agreement to assist each other in the chase. Having secured a large booty, the Lion on their return from the forest asked the Ass to allot his due
portion to each of the three partners in the treaty. The Ass
carefully divided the spoil into three equal shares and modestly
requested the two others to make the first choice. The Lion,
bursting out into a great rage, devoured the Ass. Then he
requested the Fox to do him the favor to make a division. The
Fox accumulated all that they had killed into one large heap and
left to himself the smallest possible morsel. The Lion said,
"Who has taught you, my very excellent fellow, the art of
division? You are perfect to a fraction." He replied, "I learned
it from the Ass, by witnessing his fate."

Farmer John said...

...and let's not fall for this one...

The Lion and the Fox went hunting together. The Lion, on the advice of the Fox, sent a message to the Ass, proposing to make an alliance between their two families. The Ass came to the place of meeting, overjoyed at the prospect of a royal alliance. But when he came there the Lion simply pounced on the Ass, and said to the Fox: "Here is our dinner for to-day. Watch you here while I go and have a nap. Woe betide you if you touch my prey." The Lion went away and the Fox waited; but finding that his master did not return, ventured to take out the brains of the Ass and ate them up. When the Lion came back he soon noticed the absence of the brains, and asked the Fox in a terrible voice: "What have you done with the brains?"

"Brains, your Majesty! it had none, or it would never have fallen into your trap."

Farmer John said...

of course, this is the more appropriate fable for the day from Aesop...

An Ass once found a Lion's skin which the hunters had left out in the sun to dry. He put it on and went towards his native village. All fled at his approach, both men and animals, and he was a proud Ass that day. In his delight he lifted up his voice and brayed, but then every one knew him, and his owner came up and gave him a sound cudgelling for the fright he had caused. And shortly afterwards a Fox came up to him and said: "Ah, I knew you by your voice."

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Don't forget what the Sunni and Shia are fighting over, FJ.

They've been killing each other over who's going to be in charge when they come to kill everyone else for centuries. It's the fundamentalists who remember the vision statement.

Farmer John said...

...just so long as kill each other off first... it'll take 'em a few centuries to bring their numbers back up. By then, another splinter group will be ready and waiting. And then they can kill each other off again...

Farmer John said...

My apologies to beak for venting in his house again. I can still hear the sounds of Americans jumping from the upper floors of Tower #1 and hitting the ground...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

"I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave." - King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993

Except for the fact that Osama Bin Laden sees them as our slave...

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

And we can't leave transnationalist tribes to kill each other off. Not with nuclear weapons on the bench and 1400 year old grudges indoctrinated into their children.

Farmer John said...

Syria's Assad is from the Alawite tribe, descended from the 11th Imam. The Shi'a 12er's in Lebanon like him... but he's married to a Sunni. The Lebanese Shi'a supported him in demonstrations... therefor my Intifada reference was erroneous.

We need to corral Pakistan, beanmish

Mr. Ducky said...

Let me get this straight, Farmer. A nation that claims it's at war (LMFAO) and bitches about high gas prices and you think this nation of wimps is going to "corral pakistan"?

You better figure out how to do it without the slightest inconvenience.

Look, most of the country is at a negative savings rate that they've been able to prop up by using the house as an ATM. That's all coming to an end. These yahoos are going to find out that the deficit, balance of payments, stagnant wages and falling housing market are going to put the squeeze on them. At that point they ain't going to be interested in foreign policy.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

When the Pakistanis claim they will not exert sovereignty over tribal areas to keep out Al Qaeda and other terrorists, that makes those areas lawless, unincorporated areas that we needn't ask Pakistan's permission to enter and bomb.

By the rules.

Mr. Ducky said...

Maybe Beamish the couch von Clausewitz will enjoy this article. See when one of you sofa Sun Tzu's starts talking about bombing I know you've been watching the stock war footage on the history channel again. Very bad.

Top soldier quits as blundering campaign turns into 'pointless' war
Christina Lamb

THE former aide-de-camp to the commander of the British taskforce in southern Afghanistan has described the campaign in Helmand province as “a textbook case of how to screw up a counter-insurgency”.

“Having a big old fight is pointless and just making things worse,” said Captain Leo Docherty, of the Scots Guards, who became so disillusioned that he quit the army last month.

“All those people whose homes have been destroyed and sons killed are going to turn against the British,” he said. “It’s a pretty clear equation — if people are losing homes and poppy fields, they will go and fight. I certainly would.

“We’ve been grotesquely clumsy — we’ve said we’ll be different to the Americans who were bombing and strafing villages, then behaved exactly like them.”

Docherty’s criticisms, the first from an officer who has served in Helmand, came during the worst week so far for British troops in Afghanistan, with the loss of 18 men.

They reflected growing concern that forces have been left exposed in small northern outposts of Helmand such as Sangin, Musa Qala and Nawzad. Pinned down by daily Taliban attacks, many have run short of food and water and have been forced to rely on air support and artillery.

“We’ve deviated spectacularly from the original plan,” said Docherty, who was aide-de-camp to Colonel Charlie Knaggs, the commander in Helmand.

“The plan was to secure the provincial capital Lashkar Gah, initiate development projects and enable governance . . . During this time, the insecure northern part of Helmand would be contained: troops would not be ‘sucked in’ to a problem unsolvable by military means alone.”

According to Docherty, the planning “fell by the wayside” because of pressure from the governor of Helmand, who feared the Taliban were toppling his district chiefs in northern towns.

Docherty traces the start of the problems to the British capture of Sangin on May 25, in which he took part. He says troops were sent to seize this notorious centre of Taliban and narcotics activity without night-vision goggles and with so few vehicles they had to borrow a pick-up truck.

More damningly, once they had established a base in the town, the mission failed to capitalise on their presence. Sangin has no paved roads, running water or electricity, but because of a lack of support his men were unable to carry out any development, throwing away any opportunity to win over townspeople.

“The military is just one side of the triangle,” he said. “Where were the Department for International Development and the Foreign Office? “The window was briefly open for our message to be spread, for the civilian population to be informed of our intent and realise that we weren’t there simply to destroy the poppy fields and their livelihoods. I felt at this stage that the Taliban were sitting back and observing us....

nanc said...

and all the king's horses

and all the king's men

couldn't put plucky together again


now, i need a cigarette!

beakerkin said...

Whats your point Duck? Shall we follow the Marxist model and initiate class genocide. Do note whatever resistance we face is a fracrion of that of the Commies. If you want to see a people revolt impose Marxism on them.

Let me guess you learned your military strategy from Oliver Stoned.

Robert Bayn said...

Beak, was wondering if you were aware of the JudeoChristian Cult group "House Of Yahweh" that claims Nuclear War will break out Sept 12th 2005. It's headed up by Buffalo Bill Hawkins, who beleives him and his brothers are God's choosen ones to alert the world, his "two" messengers.

I read this guys site, and i came away with him being a goofball, similar to the Waco deal, he also is from Texas, which makes me wonder if their is just something wrong in the water there.

http://yahweh.com

Robert Bayn said...

Typo, "2006"

The Merry Widow said...

Robert- For my 2 cents worth, it wouldn't surprise me. But I'm not one to put dates on G*D's business! Remember the little book that came out in 1987? "Why The Rapture Will Occur In 1988"? Where there's smoke there's fire, so it wouldn't surprise me! But I'm not G*D!
Could be something in the water, we have an awful lot of pregnant ladies in this part of Florida, seems to happen in batches. I was pregnant with my first, we went to a wedding, there were 9 of us pregnant, including ALL the bridesmaids! There's something about water...

tmw

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Ducky,

I'd be happen to discuss the likely reasons the guy who used to brew tea for the British commander in Afghanistan has gone all wobbly, as soon as you will provide evidence that you know anything of Von Clausewitz's On War and Sun Tzu's Art of War. Anything particularly insightful about that name-dropping you're engaged in?

I'd rather not waste my time schooling someone who has devoted his life to convincing as many people as possible that leftists are blithering idiots.

But I thank you for making it easy to point out.

kuhnkat said...

Little Che Sucky the Moron,

those useless NATO and American troops that can't run a decent war have killed another 100 Taliban since your post, with less than 10 of their own lost.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Warren said...

OOOoooo, A gweat big high and mighty Bwitish "Captain" and a "former aide-de-camp to the commander of the British taskforce in southern Afghanistan". Wow!

A Captain is someone that's deemed capable of commanding a company sized unit, (if they're a line officer), but an aide-de-camp is qualified to serve tea and do boring paper work detailing how many bottles of gin are in the officers mess.

Dials the phone, "Yes this is Captain Spreadbottom.... Yes, General Malaise's aide-de-camp. I was calling to remind Major Foulup that the General has requested his presence at high tea, than-q."

Yep, he's right up there in the know!

LOL!

Desk jockey officers that believe they are qualified to make strategic decisions are usually passed over for promotion and "decide" to resign. Some make it clear up to Major, (ridding on the coat tails of a senior staff officer.)

What was that fox saying about grapes?

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Speaking of Helmand Province and Ducky's tendency to put his webbed foot down his throat...

Guess where seven al-Qaeda leaders were just arrested?

Now, about that reason that tea-brewing REMF was bad-mouthing his former CO...

Purple Avenger said...

I see one of them was Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. This is very significant, on the order of zapping Zarq.

Hekmatyar and his crew were the primary conduit for Iranian meddling in Afganistan.

Farmer John said...

No ducky,

All we need to do is roll back the English law books to the 1640's and privatize/corporatize the war. Open the region up to American colonizers, then send in some Marshals and Texas Rangers to establish American Way. Heck, give Bengal back to the British East India Company. Or better yet, let Cortez mount an anabasis into the region. Let's turn all those so called European "sins" back into "virtues". It worked for civilizing this continent... uncollar the blond beasts!

Farmer John said...

People who do the heavy lifting should keep the spoils. Allow the USMC to turn privateer and give each veteran who serves 1,000 acres of Afghani territory.

Farmer John said...

...only you can't sit back here in the US whining about the use of torture or excessive or disproportionate force. It isn't your call. It's theirs.

Mr. Ducky said...

Also Farmer John we can look at the recent report that we have completely lost control of al-Anbar province.

So let's look at iraq:
1. West, completely al-Qarda and extremist controlled.

2. South, Mahdi Army controlled

3. Baghdad, complete anarchy

4. North, initial military operations by Iran and Turkey against the Kurds.


A complete success. You disproportiante force Sun Tzu's better use those nukes soon or Iran is going to think you're a bunch of pussies. They already know you're dumb (thanks to big beefy manly men like kumquat and warren).

Farmer John said...

Sorry mr. ducky, but your knowledge of the battlefied and its' players is showing some limits. The Mahdi Army HQ is in Bagdad (Sadr City). The south is run by SCIRI.

Me, I think we're in bed w/Iran. al-Sistani comes from an Eastern province of Iran, on the Pakistani border.

Osama bin Laden dreams of sucking the US into the valleys of Afghanistan and using them for training his Pashtun radicals. He figure's himself a modern Darius or Seleucus. He's only got one problem. george Bush has got him seeing red.

Mr. Ducky said...

Haven't heard much from al-Sistani. 'Ol B'rer Fox, he lay low, tarbaby don't say nothin'.

Thanks for the correction on Sadr.

Farmer John said...

There's a reason why you haven't heard from him. Two weeks ago his top aid was assasinated, and so al-Sistani washed his hands and turned Moqtada al-Sadr loose to start exterminating Sunni's (Moqtada will likely end up as the eventual leader of the unified country). The Iranian backed SCIRI has been trying to carve the country up. Ain't gonna happen.

Farmer John said...

...and now the Sunni's are cooperating w/Moqtada and want to deal...imagine that. Unsheath the knife and your enemies suddenly become reasonable.

kuhnkat said...

Little Che Sucky the panty pisser thinks Iraq is completely out of control.

Little Che Sucky must have gone home and talked to the Iranian woman who had him believeing that the Shah was worse than what came before and after!!!

Nothing like living in a world of delusions huh Sucky??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So Sucky, would you like to point us to the reports where Turkey and Iran are attacking Kurds in IRAQI TERRITORY???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How about all the reports of the dead bodies coming from the areas outside of Baghdad??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You REALLY need to get some new sources of information that don't selectively EXCLUDE what doesn't fit their agenda!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You are SOOOOO gullible if it fits your preconceptions!! Maybe we will rename you Gully instead of Ducky!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Good ol' reliable Ducky. Sometimes it takes him 3 posts, on a good day only one, but the result is always the same. Ducky walks away regarded more stupid and unqualified to comment than when he woke up this morning.

At least he's consistent.

uptownseteve said...

Question for beak

You say that Jews as well as Christians are waiting for the return of the Messiah.

The Christian Messiah is the Christ.

Is your's the same or different?

If your "Messiah" isn't the Christ, (and Mel Gibson sure doesn't think it is) then you're pretty much out of step with your so-called "Christian allies" and pretty much in the same boat as the Muslims.

Oh yeah, a Muslim candidate in Michigan just won a Congressional primary yesterday.

Warren said...

stevie, what's your point besides the one between your ears?

Are you selectively blind as well as stupid or do you have some congenital brain disease?

Your post isn't the stupidest thing I've ever read, but hey, you're still posting!