I am on the record not blaming Clinton for 911. However, Clinton has stood bye as the obscene attacks on President Bush who was in office merely eight months when 9-11
occurred. The left has droned on with a plethora of conspiracy theories and Clinton has done nothing. Moreover, Clinton ran to Ground Zero before Bush in an effort to upstage the current President. His wife made up a false story about Chelsea jogging in front of the WTC complex. Excuse me any NYC resident knows that is absurd. Joggers tend to go to the Park on the far West. Chelsea was nowhere near the WTC she was on Park Avenue South four miles from the site.
Now we have the Clintoon temper tantrum on Fox. Clintoon spends a long time on Somalia but did he mention who turned down the request for armor. Does anyone ask about his non-effort at the original WTC bombing in 93. He never visited the site at all.
He has never been thoroughly questioned about the Sudanese offer. The closest we get is Christiana Amanpour and he claims confusion. The tapes available on the net do not seem confused.
Clinton also waits to do something on the eve of the Lewinsky testimony. Some of you think it is a coincedence, but I don't. This is the same clown that took a poll on where he should take a vacation.
The problem with Clinton is he thinks the whole world revolves around him. Democrats
ruined their chances for years by standing with human garbage durring impeachment. Moreover, Clintons crimes pale in any serious comparison to Watergate. Richard Nixon had the grace and the class to move ahead and help any President. This model is not followed by the failed President Jimmy Carter or to a lesser extent Clintoon who seek to undermine the administration and blame America first.
Lets see according to NostraClinton 9-11 happened because of the sins of slavery, Crusades and the persecution of Native Americans.
1 No ethnicity has a longer track record of slavery than the Arabs.
2 The USA was founded long after the Crusades. Moreover, the real victims of that event were Jews. Clinton also forgets the Muslim invasions of Europe and Anatolia. He also ignores wholescale slaughter in Persia and India.
3 The Muslim brutality against Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, Hindus and Bhudists continue till this day. Arabs brutalize Jews for 1400 years and have the nerve to demand even more land from Jews and cry victim. Where are the states for Christians who are fleeing for their lives. This line and reasoning shows Clinton must have inhaled plenty or is a total moron.
The bottom line is that the Clintons lack class. You can put them in Scarsdale and
place them on a pedestal, but they are both egotistical trash without a clue.
Beamish in 08
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Where does point one mention Jews?
Moreover, your Judeopathy has once again leads you to talk about the Jews rather than the points itself.
Thanks for making my point about your obsession.
Beaker- They were classless in the govenors mansion, they have never tried to be classy, they will never ever have class! You don't buy class, you are raised in it, and you absorb it. Clinton has brains, but never much in the way of sense, he is an opportunist, ego-centric(as you said) and a predator! I wouldn't trust him to babysit my cat!
tmw
Strange, Ducky. I thought Beak's point was that leftists are the touchstone of all human stupidity.
I'm with Mr Beamish on this one.
TMW you may be onto something there was the strange death of Buddy the Dog. Some say it was suicide rather than spend another moment with the Clintons. Housepets are not safe around the Clintons.
Dick Morris, says that Clinton was all show and no substance. Since terrorism was a hard problem to deal with, he let the justice department deal with it as a criminal matter instead of a national security issue.
If anyone would know, it would be Morris.
If the Democrats regain power, we can look toward more of the same.
and now for my "still sick of dick" spiel - sick half to death of dick - i would sure hate to think i had a 20-year confidante who'd spill the beans on me when the tides turn - which goes to show - always keep more wood on the other guy than he has on you. besides, dick speaks out of only one side of his mouth - literally - watch him. i ain't lyin'!
warren? where is your avatar?
Nanc,
You can learn alot about the inner workings of the Democratic Leadership Council from a toe-jam sucker.
At least, that's what I get out of Dick Morris.
As discusting as Morris may be, he does know Billy boy and company.
He did go off for quite a bit. I am rather amused because unlike the current President or Reagan he gets softballs.
What a jerk.
warren would say he is a sociopathetic megalomaniacal madman...or something like that!
If I had to guess, Clinton's only regret about the USS Cole bombing is that it didn't kill more sailors, and that it wasn't captured on video so that he could rewind and fast-forward it back and forth while masturbating.
Clinton, wagging his finger again as he did when he said, "I did NOT have sex with that woman...
IMO, he completely overreacted in the interview. I wonder if he has some issues after his open-heart surgery. He really lost it in that interview.
chris wallace stated this morning on fox news that clinton was all over his staff after the interview - scolding them for that one question chris asked him! like they could have prevented it - heads are probably still rolling.
Bill certainly pushed the envelope when it comes to lacking class but I'm not sure I would include Nixon as a class act either. Barry Goldwater finally had to tell him to resign so as not to be impeached.
And unlike Clinton, the Senate would not have acquitted him...even though I think Clinton clearly exhibited:
Behavior grossly incompatible with the proper function and purpose of the office.
My oldest brother's destroyer was relieved in Yemen by the USS Cole a day or so before the bombing (to me it means that bomb could have hit my brother's ship, but more importantly, all ships are targets) so Clinton's non-response was one of the key factors in my voting for Bush in 2000. Especially after the disgrace in Moghadishu and the unanswered embassy bombings.
For Clinton to even suggest he had a counter-terrorism strategy, much less one that worked, is preposterous.
He'd be better off dropping the mask and joining hands with his fellow leftists for another round of "Americans are dead! Hoooray!"
Sheeesshhhhhh Monica Boy should have listened to what he was saying. He told everyone to go read what Richard Clark had to say about him. Welllllllll, I went back and re-read what he had to say and it didnt change he still said Clinton did not pass on any plan to deal with terror and also that basically Clinton just plain screwed the puppy.
Was this another "I did not have sex with that woman" moments.
Hey-
Heard drudge last night mention that tjc might of been drinking(but no, he didnt inhale). I think his problem is simply a lack of integrity....
sociopath? that would explain some things.
I`m not sympathetic with a President acting like he did. There was no excuse, none. We saw a real dark side to him.
Nice legacy...
BenSilly aka BenSittin
Ducky,
Given the readily demonstrable fact that no leftist in the course of human history has ever managed to exhibit higher reasoning skills on a basis consistent enough to be recorded for posterity, you're jumping the gun positing yourself as some sort of leftist intellectual giant.
Stay focused on Clinton's inaction on the Cole incident. Accept the
"excuse" that the Presidency was going to change hands 3 months later (regardless of winner, Clinton's era of incompetence was over).
This is an excuse I'd accept for Clinton's last day pardoning of FARC terrorists and all his cocaine dealers. If he didn't, he might not get the chance again...
But it's not an excuse to just do nothing. Not after doing nothing through 15 other Islamic terrorist attacks on Americans throughout his Presidency. The first time a confirmed Islamic terrorist deliberately crashed a plane to kill Americans (EgyptAir Flight 990, October 31st, 1999), what was Clinton's excuse for doing nothing?
The embassies in Tanzania and Kenya? What was the Clinton response? "Hey Pakistan, we're going to fire cruise missiles over your airspace in a show of force against some tents in Afghanistan. Don't tell the Taliban, m'kay?"
Pathetic. The kind of "look at me, I'm a fucking moron" kind of tactical cluelessness you'd expect from a leftist.
Palestinian terrorist goes nuts with a rifle and starts sniping people in New York City at the Empire State Building (Feb. 23, 1997). The Clinton response? Was there a Clinton response?
Oh yeah, "Yer honor, I contend that I cain't be sued fer shoving my cock in Pauler Jones' face, because I'm 'active duty' military right now, yuk yuk."
A bomb explodes on TWA Flight 800 (July 17, 1996). Clinton's response? "Planes with faulty wiring fly for major airlines all the time, itzawunder they ain't all blowing up all the time. Lookit all the terrorist groups claiming credit. Hey guys! How y'all doing?"
Iran's Hezbollah bombs the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, killing Americans (June 25, 1996). Clinton's response?
Hello?
Islamic Jihad / Al Qaeda kills Americans in Riyadh with a car bomb (November 15, 1995). What did Clinton do? Did he even say anything about it?
US diplomats in Pakistan executed in their car by machine gun fire (March 8th, 1995), and Clinton did? That's right, Bucky, he didn't do jack.
A bomb explodes through the World Trade Center parking level in New York City, the bombmaker and a few collaborators flee to Iraq where Saddam puts them up in a lavish apartment with income, and refuses to extradite them back to the US. Clinton's response? "Bad Saddam, no cookie."
A Pakistani terrorist with ties to the ISI goes apeshit with a rifle at the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia (January 25, 1993). Clinton's response? "Whar is Pakistan? Ain't that a city in Kentucky?"
US troops participating in an UN peacekeeping force in Somalia are attacked by Al Qaeda-backed militants of Mohamad Aidid (October 3-4. 1993). Clinton's response to the spectacle of American soldiers' bodies being dragged through streets on international television? No fire support. No armor. Withdraw in defeat. Masturbate later to the dead American footage.
Please note that militarily, there were assets in the region of Moghadishu that Clinton could have deployed to save those guys he let die and salvage the peacekeeping mission, as Clinton had only been in office for a little over 8 months and hadn't really taken the shredder to America's military preparedness at that point.
Compare this to President Bush, responding to 9/11 after 8 years of Clinton military slashes and using the CIA as a Democratic Party fundraiser (Valerie Plame's name is listed as a Democrat donor in FEC records with the CIA-front Brewster Jennings & Associates, but she's not the only BJ&A donor...)
You may want to review your history. Under Bush, the CIA and Army Special Forces had teams in northern Afghanistan working with and advising Gen. Masood and the Northern Alliance in their war against the Taliban and Al Qaeda as early as April, 2001.
Let's see. 3 months after Bush takes office, he's coordinating with the Afghan resistance against the Taliban.
8 months after Clinton takes office, he can't muster the balls to use assets placed in region by his predecessor to save soldiers under fire FOR TWO DAYS.
Ducky, your "intelligentsia" postures are amusing to me, but ultimately, that burning in your cheeks should tell you that as a leftist, you're as shoot yourself in the face stupid as they come.
Nonetheless, pardon my long response. The way I see it, as a leftist you were picking your nose 'bout half way through it.
Where were all the righty Republicans during all this so-called Clinton inaction against Al-Queada????
Did ANY of these bottom dwelling hypocrites demand immediate and determined force against Bin Laden and Al-Queada in 1998?
Hell no.
They accused Clinton of "wagging the dog" and diverting attention from their stained blue dress witchunt.
Auntie Condi received briefs from Berger upon taking office that Bin Laden was planning to hit the US with hijacked planes and she claims that "no one thought that they would use planes as bombs".
Stop the madness righties.
You're toast.
I can't wait till November.
Lets see Clinton waited until the Lewinsky testimony to bomb Bin Ladden. Nobody is convinced and you are a clown.
Uptownseteve,
Clinton bombed an aspirin factory in the Sudan owned by Al Qaeda and suspected of making sarin gas for Iraq.
At least that's what he said.
Wasa matter ittle bittle stevie, Monica get your job?
The FBI hadn't certified Al Queda -USS Cole link yet Bin Laden was on the FBI's ten most wanted list and they knew he was responsible for the embassy bombings.
From the NYT:
There were Republicans who urged Clinton to get tougher and praised him for bombing the milk factory.
Congressional leaders were briefed about the planned raid Wednesday night and Thursday morning. For the most part, Republican leaders praised Clinton's decision and urged more aggressive action against terrorism.
House Speaker Newt Gingrich expressed firm support, and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, said, "Our response appears to be appropriate and just."
Senate Majority Leader Lott and Speaker of the House Gingrich, and most Republicans generally, praised the (long overdo, intentionally weak) attack.
Uppity,
Richard Clarke said himself that it wasn't a plan at all.
Georgia Republican Saxby Chambliss, who was then a member of the House, chairing the Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security. Chambliss was perplexed. “I’ve had Dick Clarke testify before our committee several times, and we’ve invited Samuel Berger several times,” Chambliss told NR, “and this is the first I’ve ever heard of that plan.” If it was such a big deal, Chambliss wondered, why didn’t anyone mention it?
Richard Clarke himself debunked the story in a background briefing with reporters. He said he presented two things to the incoming Bush administration: “One, what the existing strategy had been. And two, a series of issues — like aiding the Northern Alliance, changing Pakistan policy, changing Uzbek policy — that they had been unable to come to any new conclusions from ‘98 on.”
A reporter asked: “Were all of those issues part of an alleged plan that was late December and the Clinton team decided not to pursue because it was too close to — ”
“There was never a plan, Andrea,” Clarke answered. “What there was was these two things: One, a description of the existing strategy, which included a description of the threat. And two, those things which had been looked at over the course of two years, and which were still on the table.”
“So there was nothing that developed, no documents or no new plan of any sort?
“There was no new plan.”
“No new strategy? I mean, I mean, I don’t want to get into a semantics — “
“Plan, strategy — there was no, nothing new.”
“Had those issues evolved at all from October of ‘98 until December of 2000?”
“Had they evolved? Not appreciably.”
Amid all the controversy, some former Clinton-administration officials began to pull back on their story. One of them — who asked not to be named — told NR that Time didn’t have it quite right. “There were certainly ongoing efforts throughout the eight years of the Clinton administration to fight terrorism,” the official said. “It was certainly not a formal war plan. We wouldn’t have characterized it as a formal war plan. The Bush administration was briefed on the Clinton administration’s ongoing efforts and threat assessments.” That, of course, was pretty much what the Bush White House said had had happened all along.
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