There is a severe problem with an anti-semitic obsession in the UK. Most people assume it wacked out jihadist types. However, there is a rather large and vocal Communist far left stench of anti-semitic furor in the UK. This stench is also on Ameican shores near Univesities. If Felis ever makes it here it may be in Oz to a small extent as well.
There are plenty of normal people in the UK such as our friend Mark Alexander. On the blogosphere one can read the musings of the insane Gay Dane from the UK. The Purple Avenger has the best desciption of 167 " weapons grade crazy" in his links section. One can also visit the Snagglepuss of anti semitic laziness Gert in the Marxist treif section of MZ's blog.
I want to stress the common denominator to all of the familiar Jooooo obsessed anti-semitic dolts we see, Communism. 167, Gert, Weazie, Duncy and Uptown all try to play the shuck and jive game. However, their red roots are fairly obvious to any observer.
Oh Weazie please regale our readers with your stooooooopid 9-11 conspiracy theories.
Most of these dolts have readerless blogs or no blog and zero social skills. John Brown and Robert Lindsay are quite open about their Communism. Lindsay is also open about his drug abuse as well.
I do not mention Janice in the familiar list of Communist anti semites. Janice is too
stupid to qualify as a Communist. She is so dumb that she makes Uptown look like a scholar. Uptown is just too lazy to read, but Janice is a full blown moron. I have read many blogs in my day, but her brand of stupidity wins the award. Warren and I have visited some strange sites. There was an insane anti American Canadian dimwit who called herself Jedi Master Bi&*&*Tch and 167's odd posts, but Janice wins dumbest blogger.
Mr Beamish in 08
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Lets see Duncy would you ask Uptown to stop posting about race.
You seem to post from the Commie perspective all the time. Lets see how about lose the class genocide act and mindless anti semitism.
Beakerkin:
I don't think your blog is serious: I think you're simply spoofing. It's certainly amusing all right.
You call me a "lazy anti-Semite" but you don't read my blog: if you had you would know that I'm neither anti-Israel, anti-Zionist or anti-Semite.
I'm currently co-writing a piece with a Canadian Jew, denouncing the often made "Israel/Nazi" comparison, to be published soon, as well as to be sent to some leading world newspapers. That's quite the hallmark of an anti-Semite, don't you think? No, Beakie, it isn't, quite the opposite.
Truth be known, I'm moderately pro-Israel but critical of some of it's stances vis-à-vis the Palestinian question. Several Jewish bloggers I'm friendly with are in line with me (or I with them?)
Contrary to you I don't hold a two-dimensional Manichean worldview.
As regards the Marxist allegation, it makes me laugh no end. Political positions are always relative and you admit (in your profile) to almost be outside of the GOP tent: as a consequence even a centrist like me must seem to you like a Marxist extremist. But it's not my fault you're practically extraterrestrial far right...
Gertie
Unfortunately, I do read your blog
and I may be your only reader. Pro-Israel compared to whom Noam Chomsky or Saddam Hussein.
Most of your blog is cut an paste with very little original thought.
Any simple look at your blog backs my assertion and may cause sterility in lab weazels.
Your description of me as far right is rather amusing. Most people here would describe me as a liberal. The fact that I view your kind as a lower life form is not my problem.
What was that comment on the dimwits blog about me moving to Israel? Lets see would you tell a Native American to move back to the reservation.
Sorry there Gertie stick with Joooos like Greg. His next clever thought will be his first one. He also is weak and begs for forgiveness and approval. I would rather take you out to the metaphorical outhouse and place you in a more ahem suitable attmosphere.
Beamish in 08
beaker
"Lets see Duncy would you ask Uptown to stop posting about race."
Our debate last night had little or nothing to do with race, did it?
Beakerkin:
You a moderate? A liberal?
A liberal "commie hunter"? Dear, God. You're even ore delusional than I thought.
Keep spouting that nonsense about the "pseudostinians"...
You're a blowhard Jewish supremacist, not all that much removed from the KKK or other supremacist goups.
And I would tell a Native American to get organised and start seeking compensation for land-robbing and genocide committed by European settlers: your ancestors. Or does "ancient history" of which you're so fond but don't understand a word also tell you Amewikah was always populated by Amewikans?
Kuhnkat:
You look and sound like a character from "South Park" or "King of the Hill".
Keep repeating that manic laughter of yours, it's lost its entertaining value [ahem] a long time ago but keep going...
go gert!
lol..a pretty comprehensive roundup of the far left and anti-semitist
(usually these two go hand in hand) in our parts of the blogsphere.
Ahhh..so much denial.
beaker
"Your description of me as far right is rather amusing. Most people here would describe me as a liberal."
LIKE WHO?
Name ONE liberal position you hold.
Anybody who disagrees with you is described as a communist or a Black Panther.
"I do not mention Janice in the familiar list of Communist anti semites. Janice is too
stupid to qualify as a Communist. She is so dumb that she makes Uptown look like a scholar. Uptown is just too lazy to read, but Janice is a full blown moron."
Who is this Janice?
If she's got you ranting and foaming about her she must be pretty sharp and interesting.
What's her blog address?
Beaker, you keep ranting about "Uptown doesn't read books".
I've never claimed to be a scholar or an intellectual as you, laughably, seem to regard yourself.
I know exactly who and what I am.
Essentially, a black street kid from the West Bronx who fought, scratched, and scraped to make something of himself.
I happen to read obsessively.
A couple of newspapers and websites daily.
My book choices are mainly biographies and poliitical screeds.
I bought Bob Woodward's "State of Denial" today and plan to read it this weekend.
I find it amusing, as well as fulfilling, that I regularly send you superior intellect, highly educated rightwing white folks into fits of anger and hysteria by merely expressing my thoughts.
BTW, my son Nicky has just been accepted into the George Washington Univ MBA program.
He starts in January.
Nicky is a rap music fan.
I'm so proud.
That was a fabulous rant by Carol Gould Senor Beaker. Well done sir!
Morgan
A question for Gertie.
You used the term "the Palestinian question." Exactly what question do you have about the Palestinians? Lemme take a guess.
Why did Arafat turn down Israel's offer to give them 97% of what they wanted?
Why do the Palestinans rejoice when their own children self-detonate in order to murder Jewish children?
Why won't the neighboring Arab countries give their Arab bretheren (aka "Palestinians") a chunk of land to call their own? After all, they do own over 90% of the land in that small corner of the world.
Why did the "Palestinians" worship and follow a murdering, child molesting Egyptian (the nationality issue disqualifies Muhammed) by the name of Arafat? Was mass idiocy to blame or just blind Jew hatred?
Take your time Gertie, I realize these Q&A's are tough on lefties like you.
Morgan
One more thing Beaker. There's something going unmentioned in this scapegoating of Jews by the Brits. It's a large factor as old as mankind. COWARDICE!
As long as the Brits or any European nation under Islamic internal menace express their anger at the Jews, they figure that this buys Muslim gratitude. It's called cowardice plain and simple. I realize this doesn't explain ancient Anglo anti-Semitism, but it sure does sum up the current plague of Jew hatred.
Morgan
Uptown, let me break it down to you. Because you had one debate that did not mention race, does not mean that you do not categorically discuss race. You do. A simple search for your posts will prove it.
Gert, you don't read Beak much, do you? Hubert H. Humphrey and Scoop Jackson were noted liberal anti-Communists. Lieberman is a modern-day version, being a liberal pro-war Democrat. You may scoff at such beings, but they do exist. In fact, they used to compromise the vast majority of the Democrat party. Just think of Harry Truman, if you need a pointer.
As for Beak's socially liberal positions, contrast his position on the morality of homosexuality with say, Mad Zionist's, or my own.
Now that I've done your homework for you, will you post something meaningful next time?
Beak is irritatingly moderate. He only wants to deport Commies, while I want to dismember them and feed the remaining goo to vultures.
Yes, Mr. B., but we still love him, in spite of himself!
Good morning, G*D bless and Maranatha!
tmw
Gertie, Up Town, 167, and ahhhh yes, last but not least "LiL Quacker".
All belong to an elite group of "COWARDS AND MORONS".
Jingoist said:
"As long as the Brits or any European nation under Islamic internal menace express their anger at the Jews, they figure that this buys Muslim gratitude. It's called cowardice plain and simple."
Its not just the Jews that suffer these miserable Cowards. Europeans are so afraid of Muslims that they would sacrifice their very freedoms to placate these vermin in their midst. To which I cite a news article this week.
"The German Government cancels a Opera of the King who severs heads. They found that this opera might offend some folks. Would it offend the Jews because this king severs Moses head? Oh no that would not be offensive. Would it offend Indians because he severs Ghandi's head? No thats not it either. Oh ok so it would offend Christians because he severs Christs head? No, really now are you sure? Oh no the most offensive part is that he severs Mohammeds head. Now by god that is just going to far and to offensive. We must be more sensitive to our Muslim brothers.
Can you imagine after the cartoon riots, and the papal riots what these vermin would do when Mohammed lost his head?
Europe is exhibiting the same cowardice that they showed when Hitler took power. They never learn, you cannot just placate these vermin and expect them to play nice.
It will be interesting to see how these european cowards act when their women are thrown back to the 7 century and they themselves come under the Sharia legal system. If one thinks that is stretching it think again. There is already movement in Europe to institute "Sharia" and in some countries to make arabic the official language.
Silly little geese talk about Europeans losing their freedoms when the Constitution gets shit on every day.
Funny little morons you are.
And beaker moron, the only conspiracy theory is the one that you believe: the one that tells you how buildings collapse straight down, even ones not having been hit with anything. Beaker, you always were and always will be a moron.
Good thing mommy takes care of you, since you're too fucking stupind to hold a job.
Passed over? No shit. Story of your miserable little life.
"There is already movement in Europe to institute "Sharia" and in some countries to make arabic the official language."
Just another example of a low grade moron spouting idiocies as a substitute for a brain.
In no European country is there a movement to make Arabic an official language. Get yer dumb ass out of Texas and learn a bit about the world, ya fucking retard.
Welll, welll, if we didnt hit a weasely little nerve there. I would suggest you pull your head out of your furry little butt and look around you. Yes, there are movements to make arabic the official language because they are a large majority in many european countries and yes there is a movement to institue Sharia law first by setting up courts for themselves then when they become the majority setting them up for others.
I will pass commenting much on your last paragraph as it shows alljust what a true cess-pool rat you are. Hell, even the weasels would kick a rat like you out of their clan. :) have a nice day my little neanderthal yes, I know who you are :P.
Beakerkin:
"Sorry there Gertie stick with Joooos like Greg. His next clever thought will be his first one. He also is weak and begs for forgiveness and approval. I would rather take you out to the metaphorical outhouse and place you in a more ahem suitable attmosphere."
All you ever do is feebly deflect by changing the subject.
Regarding Greg, (whom I know quite well), he's got more guts in his little finger than you in your entire being. Whilst you were still quite the closet-Jew (up to recently) he was in Israel living the Jewish dream and making Aliyah. You just sit in front of your imaginary "cyber war room" trying to tap the Palestinians out of existence. Matey: you wouldn't last three weeks in Israel... you're all mouth and nothing more.
Greg however has the humanity and courage to admit when he's wrong and apologise for it: that's human decency. On his blog, you'll shortly find some interesting stuff, I promise you that. But over here comedy rules supreme.
By the way, denying the existence of an entire people makes you (in your case) not only a Jewish supremacist but also a common racist thug.
How your high school science project coming along: the cloning of Joe McCarthy's DNA remains?
You naughty, naughty "liberal"...
Now you may call me anti-Semite again (which flies right past me) but that doesn't make you any less of a clown, Jewish or not...
da weaz,
Responding to someone of your lowly character and IQ is risking the mental health of Beaker's wonderful site, so I'll keep it short.
You weezed; "Silly little geese talk about Europeans losing their freedoms when the Constitution gets shit on every day."
Where to start? I guess we should celebrate the fact that you managed to capitalize the word Constitution. Euros are in fact suffering the assaults of Islamic cultural inroads every day. Just yesterday I read about a small town in England that decided to orient all the headstones towards the northeast so the Muzzies could look over their shoulder towards Mecca. Google it and look it up if you can muster the intellectual curiosity.
As for the Constitution being "shit on every day" are you talking about McCain-Feingold? If that's so we actually agree on something. I'm probably hoping beyond hope there. You dim bulbs on the cranial Swiss cheese left seem to think that our beloved Constitution applies to our enemies also. It doesn't. These muzzie savages were caught on the hills and trails of Iraq and Afghanistan IN THEIR PAJAMAS! They don't even qualify for Geneva Convention rights, regardless of what the Supremes say. In WWII these terrorist irregulars were shot on sight by all sides. LEGALLY! Not too bright are you?
As for your nutty conspiracy mongering about the World Trade Center. This proves that you aren't even smart enough to do your own typing. LET YOUR SISTER GO OUT AND PLAY WITH HER FRIENDS! Take your meds you frikkin wacko!
To the justin and jingo morons:
Please explain where these European movements are? In which countries? Who is running them?
And you won't answer the questions because you don't know shit about the topics that you speak about.
And about 9/11, you just swallow what is shoved down your throat. You geese probably interned for Foley.
Jingoist said:
"LET YOUR SISTER GO OUT AND PLAY WITH HER FRIENDS! Take your meds you frikkin wacko! "
ROFLMBO :) well said Jingo, this is what happens when one trys to bring neanderthals into the 21st century.
your such a bright little creature I think we will let you go on an easter egg hunt and see if you can find it. Of course there is not much hope in that since you are probably not able to read anything that would come close to the truth.
You can only accept what these turban headed dune jumpers tell you to believe.
Perhaps a Ioid operation is in your future.
Gertie your leftist predictability is terribly disappointing. Your type has four regular insults to tag the ideological opposition.
1. racist
2. sexist
3. homophobe
4. McCarthyite
You managed to call Beaker a racist and a McCarthyite and you were wrong on both counts. Care to try again? This time with some forethought.
Morgan
da weaz,
Here's your problem as I see it. Your attempts at intelligent discourse are overshadowed by your INSANE adherance to conspiracy theories. You are like the drooling waterhead that can't get a seat at a brain surgery conference. Come on man, LET YOUR SISTER GO OUT AND PLAY! Do you want her to end up like you?
Morgan
Justin wouldn't you just love to know what mental processes go into believing crazy conspiracy theories? Eric Hoffer wrote a book, I think it was called the "Passionate State of Mind" or something very close to that. I read it many years ago so the specifics elude me. He nails the mindset of people who fall prey to crazy cults and theories. Die hard Marxists are probably the biggest of these groups. It's so damn hard to be nice to nuts.
Morgan
Jingoist:
Let Beakie deny he's a McCarthy aficionado: he won't deny this because that's what he is and proud of it too...
Morgan said:
"Justin wouldn't you just love to know what mental processes go into believing crazy conspiracy theories?"
Ummm honestly Morgan I would not even want to go close to da weazl's thought process. I dont think any of us would want to get that close to the whirlpool going on in that cess-pool of his mind.
He speaks of the Constitution yet he fails to admit that if people that he supports get power there will be no Constitution left because it exposes them to the one thing they can not stand "Freedom".
He speaks of the 9/11 conspiracies as fact even when they have all been discounted by engineers and just plain old sane folk.
da weazl (which is an appropriate name for one claiming to be a lawyer) lives in not the world of reality but resides in the world of the Bizzaro's.
I find most people who sucumb to the whacko world of conspriacies are the highly educated elite who can not cope with the real world, or those who think it is the governments place to take care of them so they dont have to take responsiblity for themselves.
gert, those of us who know Beak know he is not a McCarthite. I would venture to say I find more of the McCarthy tactics used by your side than any on the right.
Beak is quite capable of speaking for himself but, unlike you dogs on
the left those of us who know our friends will speak what we know of them. We unlike you are PROUD to stand by our friends.
If you dont like us doing so you know the Constitution not only allows you the Freedom of speech but also the Freedom to pack up your toys and go home.
OK Gert let's talk about how you labled my buddy Beaker. I'm a big fan of labels, as long as they're accurate and I'm sure you feel the same way.
Let's start with "racist." Like most conservatives, I've found that the surest way to be called a racist is to disagree with a leftist on racial matters. Normally a lefty will hurl that insult when their pathetic excuse for an argument falls apart. In your case it was just laziness.
Historically speaking Beaker is right when he states that a distinct group of Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" is a new phenomenon. During the time of the Ottoman empire the term Palestinians referred to anyone who lived there, Jews included.
The fact that Beaker pointed this out doesn't make him a racist in the least. The "Palestinians" are largely descended from Arabs who immigrated from surrounding countries to work in the budding state of Israel. The larger Arab world has used them as a political battering ram against the only liberal democracy in the region for the last 50 years. The fact that Israel hasn't marched their sorry homicide-bombing asses to the southern Negev continues to befuddle me.
To be accurate, Beaker may be biggoted against the "Palestinians." Most of us feel the same way about the Nazis. Their methods and desires coincide.
Palestinians are Arabs. Arabs and most Jews are Semites. This is a Caucasian subgroup. So his problem with a people who wrongly label themselves as "Palestinians" is not RACIST in the least. That's just a lazy way for leftys like you to denigrate those people you disagree with. I guess it beats defending homicide bombings.
As for McCarthy. Sure he was a schmuck, but was he right? The historical record bears him out. The Soviet archives that we managed to get out mitts on in the 90's confirm that Hollywood was THICK with commies, some of whom were on the Soviet payroll.
Beaker hates communists, Islamofascists and totalitarians of all sorts. Good for him! These are deeply evil ideologies and those people who run interference for them are useful idiots at best.
Morgan
Yup. No mention of any European countries with any movement to impose Arabic. Just more smoke and mirrors from morons who care nary a shard regarding the veracity of the babble bubbling from their imbecile lips.
Carry on, morons.
Weazie
Where are your readers is it in the same place as your sanity. Lets cut to the chase because this blog does not cater to the criminally insane. Lets hear your evidence for who blew up the WTC.
Now remember, the burden of proof is on you. Nor does an inconvenient fact like missing toilet paper or Potato Chips have anything to do with anything.
Now do it quickly before the medical staff have to change your diaper. I am not paid to listen to your delusion. The bottom line is you are a mentally unstable gasbag
and a Commie.
Jingoist:
"Historically speaking Beaker is right when he states that a distinct group of Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" is a new phenomenon. During the time of the Ottoman empire the term Palestinians referred to anyone who lived there, Jews included."
Beakerkin's (and many others with him) argument regarding the "pseudostinians", "false-stinians" etc goes much, much deeper than the mere question of "what they were called back then". I have no problem with labelling Palestinians as Arabs: they are Arabs. So are most Jordanians, Syrians etc etc: it proves nothing whatsover.
My beef with Beakie and the other deniers is that they claim most Palestinians immigrated to "Israel" when historical demographics demonstrably show that throughout most of the 19th and 20th century they [Arab Palestinians] made up the vast majority of the population in what I'll call (to be clear) the "British mandate of Palestine". Most Israeli historians and historiographers will tell you that that was exactly the case: it's not in dispute, except by a few propagandists who use this lie to justify not sharing the land with Palestinians.
If anyone was mass (and legitimately) immigrating into Palestine from about 1900 and onwards, when the Zionist project started, it was Diaspora Jews: this is also not in dispute by leading historians like B. Morris (or even Morris' main opponent E. Karsh). Both, by the way, are committed Zionists.
The "empty Palestine" myth is just that: a croc only the feebleminded believe in, as a justification for Jewish dominance in Israel, Arab transfer and such like.
Gertie
Russet Shadows and Morgan have provided you with ample answers.
In typical Communist fashion you would like to be the arbiter of who is a Jooooo. Lets see the entire world knows I am a Jew and the post in question was in response to that of another Communist Anti-semite who accused me of hiding my Judaism to mislead my non-Jewish readers. Nanc, TMW, AOW, Mr Beamish are well aware of my ethnicity. Any charge that I am uncomfortable with my identity is laughable. In fact we do not have much content about Israel, unless Commies such as yourself are hijacking threads.
Now what was that comment you had on the dimwits site about the left wing types on this blog.
You are not the arbiter of who is a Jooo. Nor is Greg's life exemplarary or notable in any way.
Remember Israel is a quasi-socialist state and there is a reason he is excluded from the Army. Being excluded from the Army in Israel is no small feat either.
He is also provided with free education as well.
Moreover, I left a well paying job to serve my country. I left my family and journeyed to the frozen North to have the honor of serving.
So you would like to define my ethnicity by my desire to emigrate.
We know what my dog is in this fight. The question remains what is your dog in this fight. Lets see a blog that consists of one subject, can we say obsessed.
For the record we post on a variety of subjects.
Define what is the basis for this Palestinian ethnicity? You have failed to demonstrate any basis for this ethnicity. Shall we have a Nation of Brookyn next? How about the nation of Liverpool?
"I am not paid to listen to your delusion."
You aren't paid at all, you fucking moron. I don't give a shit about burden of proof or what you think. I left the fucking country because of it being populated by morons such as yourself. You're just a bottom feeder getting the scraps of the bastards you laud.
You're the victim of the "government" you praise. Not me. They're Nazis and you are a propaganda affected fool, as are your co-babblers. Get a fucking job, you brain damaged, aphasiac bastard.
And for the rest of you morons, you get the government you deserve, and hence this is the absoulutely perfect government for you.
Burden of proof? What do you know about that? You got that from television? You half witted moron, get real. Get a fucking job.
Serve your country? By handing out dishes on the the chow line?
Well paying? A moron like you can't make much more than minimum wage. Get real.
Nobody gives a fuck that you're a Jooo. You're an embarassment to the Jews. Tough to find a Jew as stupid as you.
Wanna talk turkey about Joos? As Laurence Belfer, a Jooo with whom weaz went to both elementary and law school. Or Jill Revson, weaz's first girlfriend, a Joo who was the primary beneficiary of Charles Revlon's empire.
You're a meaningless Jooo trying to get a job, living at home with mom, blogging to avoid the fact that you can't get laid.
Beaker moron, you sure are a funny one.
Lets see Weazie your meds obviously haven't kicked in yet. So the grand delusion is upon us and only you posses the truth. Keep dreaming and give me a call when you decide you are Ghengis Khan next or maybe Gumby.
I have been proudly serving my country with many others. I work with pride each and every day as do my peers. Meanwhile, nobody cares about you or your fantasy life or readerless blog.
What day is tapioca day in the psycho ward ? Say goodbye to all your multiple personalities.
Nobody is claiming that Israel was empty before it's rebirth. The simple truth is that Arabs flowed there in great numbers following the Jewish rebuilding miracle.
Do you think the Israelis should impose the same restrictions on the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians as the Arab countries impose on Jews?
Here's something you cannot avoid Gertie. When you defend the Palis you are also defending everything that they do, there is NO seperating the two. Do you really want to do that? Hitler had plenty of apologists here in the US until he also invaded Russia. Those people had an excuse, ignorance. What's your's Gertie?
Also I noticed that you have ignored my questions from above.
Morgan
Hmmmm, seems the collective IQ on this blog has nosedived!
tmw
Morgan said:
"Also I noticed that you have ignored my questions from above."
Nor will Gertie answer the questions since just as da weazl when faced with something that might actually take some critical thinking they simply launch into a tirade of racial, and ethinic slurs and reach down into the cess-pools of their language to respond. If it were not for the "F" word rat boy would be speechless.
At least I know he (it) left the country. Guess the Constitution wasnt crapped on enough for him to exercise his right to leave :).
They both need to take a leap and have arial intercourse with a motivating piece of pastry.
By at least 2 MTW need they be pointed out? However the over all collective can over come them. Remember "To resisit the Collective is Futile" :) :P
Well actually TMW it's just another case of lefties defending evil. Chopping their arguments up is kinda fun stuff to do.
Morgan
Gertie
The Commie couch potato asks a few questions.
I am 100% proud of my anti-Communism. The accolytes of Marx have a history of deception, treason and sedition that is worthy of scorn. I do not distinguish between race or class genocide as they are all odious. I suppose Islamo colonialism and aparthied is also a myth.
My point is there are no Palestinians. There is zero basis for this ethnicity. The original context of the dispute was Pan Arabism. After 1967 the Commie left changed the argument from Pan Arabism to a fictional ethnicity that has zero basis in fact.
Palestinians are Arabs and have plenty of land allready. Let the Arabs settle their own refugees, like every other group.
Kuhnkat
You are going to get Gertie started
on a tangent. He does not note that the alleged debunking of the book was done by Norman Finklestein a notorious Holocaust minimizer and Communist. Gertie would like to impute Peters motives without similar examination of the motives of Finkola and Chimpanzee.
Beakerkin:
"Define what is the basis for this Palestinian ethnicity? You have failed to demonstrate any basis for this ethnicity. Shall we have a Nation of Brookyn next? How about the nation of Liverpool?"
Characteristically of you, you miss the point entirely. The fact is that Arabs and Jews have lived on the land now called Israel for centuries. Ethnicity has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
Going by your own twisted logic the land we now call America should be given back to the Native Americans, the only real "first people" inhabiting that land, prior to the arrival of European settlers.
In the case of Israel/Palestine, the situation is much, much simpler: Arabs and Jews lived there together for centuries: sharing the land is therefore fair for both of them.
There are extremists on both sides who want it all to themselves and these are racists, period. You're one of them... A homeland for Jews only and let the Arabs piss off to "Arabia". A simplistic solution by a simpleton...
Beakie, keep dreaming but it ain't ever gonna happen...
Gert
Arabs invaded and are colonialist and any discusion of a Palestian ethnicity is fiction. Your example of Native Americans is amusing. However your notion is analagous to European Colonialist further stealing more reservation land.
We have plenty on Native Americans that regilarly post here. They will be glad to point out your moronic comparison.
If one correctly defines this as Pan Arabism there is zero basis for another Arab state. It seems that you are mistaken as to whom the colonialists are.
Your notion of Greater Arabia is analogous to the famous "living space argument of WW2". The Germans just need living space. We all know how that ended. Islamo/Nazi greed for land is just peachy as long is it at the expense of them Jooooos whom they oppressed for 1400 years.
I could care less what the Arabs want. They should solve their own refugee problems like every other group.
Gertie for the last time, did you read my very simple explanation of why Beaker's NOT a racist? One more time for those with ADD.
Arabs and most Jews are Semites. Beaker and I belong more or less in that group also. Semites are a subgroup of the Caucasian race. Therefore his problem with Pali/Arabs isn't racism, get it?
Please PLEASE pick up a Websters dictionary when a word is in dispute. Words have meanings and conservatives carry a dictionary every time we deal with leftists. It keeps misunderstanding and lies to a minimum. Thanks,
Morgan
Going by your own twisted logic the land we now call America should be given back to the Native Americans, the only real "first people" inhabiting that land, prior to the arrival of European settlers.
And the Iroquois should give the Great Lakes back to the Cherokee.
but Janice is a full blown moron
Being moronic and commie is no way to go through life son - paraphrasing someone in Animal House
KuhnKat wrote:
"Try reading "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters and checking her innumerable references for some reality."
Beakerkin wrote:
"He does not note that the alleged debunking of the book was done by Norman Finklestein a notorious Holocaust minimizer and Communist."
Finkelstein (F-I-N-K-E-L-S-T-E-I-N) isn't a Communist and even if he was that has nothing to do with this argument. To everyone you don't agree with is a Communist or a Marxist anyway. Nor is he a "Holocaust minimizer": what he asserted is that Israeli's have in the past played the Holocaust card for political purposes. I believe that's true, although I feel Finkelstein overstates the case. Finkelstein's parents are Holocaust survivors.
I suppose to you Yehoshua Porath is also a Communist when about "From Time Immemorial" he concluded:
"Readers of her book should be warned not to accept its factual claims without checking their sources. Judging by the interest that the book aroused and the prestige of some who have endorsed it, I thought it would present some new interpretation of the historical facts. I found none. Everyone familiar with the writing of the extreme nationalists of Zeev Jabotinsky's Revisionist party (the forerunner of the Herut party) would immediately recognize the tired and discredited arguments in Mrs. Peters's book. I had mistakenly thought them long forgotten. It is a pity that they have been given new life."
"From Time Immemorial" is a croc that has been discredited for a long time, almost from time immemorial in fact.
And you keep hammering down that point of ethnicity, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the whole thing, unless one's a Jewish supremacist who's trying to justify Arab transfer (and still claim he's not racist).
That's me done here. Write whatever you want, I won't be reading it anymore.
Good night and good luck...
Before I forget, here's my view on "empty Palestine", in greater detail:
The Myth of the Myth of Palestine.
Gert,
That had to be the most asinine "we should be nice to the Muslims until they kill us" argument I've ever read at your link above.
Not that I want to give the impression that I believe leftists are actually capable of rationally, mind you, but damn. You warn those who tout a "clash of civilizations" may get one if they're not careful?
Why? The "peaceful" Muslims gonna rise up and start killing over a discussion?
Why am I bothering with this post?
Go lick a window, you fucking moron.
My my my Gertie are you EVER DENSE!
Norman Finkelshits is indeed a communist, so it goes directly to his veritas. Communists have an actual track record of being lying vermin. They will say or do "whatever it takes" to bring on the worker's paradise so they can't be trusted.
You still don't know the definition of a racist? Take Beamish's advice please.
Morgan
Gert
Lets see Finkelstein is a well known Holocaust minimizer and communist. The fact that Gert tosses out his own set of labels while crying about the use of labels by others is a mere coincedence. The fact that he repeats the same talking points as Communists and Holocaust minimizers is also coincedence. The fact that Gert has a blog devoted entirely to criticizing Israel is also coincedental.
Sorry Gert but there is zero case for another Judenfrei state. Gertie is a great fan of aparthied states, as long as they are Moooslim.
Gertie,
Why haven't you answered ANY of my questions from above?
Tick, tick, tick still waiting Gertie.....
Morgan
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