One of the things that amazes me about some leftist Utopians is a lack of vision. The
scary thing with some on the left is they honestly do not know how to talk to a moderate. Some do not even know what a moderate is . The bottom line is that I am exactly the type of person liberals need to win over.
This is the falacy of the radicals. Screaming loud and being self righteous may make
you feel good but it advances nothing. The anger and rage feeds itself and nothing ever gets advanced. People do not listen to angry whiny voices and they push people away.
Radicals blow up bridges and get nowhere . Moderates build bridges and move ahead
towards their objective. The question I ask radicals do you want progress or do you want to make a mess and feel good.
The question the liberals need to ask is who lost the Beak. Why am I a moderate so complettely disgusted with the left ? The answer is incompettance on the part of the liberals.
1 Communist Utopian leftists are not to be coddled . They are seditious by nature and for every vote they give you it costs you three. You may rail about Falwell but given the choice of Falwell or Michael Moore most americans would choose Falwell.
2 Do not accept excesses of speech on the left. Bush = Hitler is an absurd offensive
campaign. The whole Bush lied bit is a problem
3 Pick one topic per rant.I like Rob Bayn but placing Iraq, Gays and about two other
topics together dilutes the message. If you want to adress an issue one at a time
otherwise it becomes a rant
4 Stay positive in your message and hold the door open. I always leave the door open
for people to join me except for Communists and White Supremacy idiots. Some day AC
Patriot or B might agree with me on something so the door is open.You do not open doors by ranting on Religious figures or faith.
This post eliminates 167 as he is a communist, anti american , anti semitic etc .
5 Stay away from blame America first. You may worry about what they think of us in Europe and the Muslim world. This is a two way street and they should start showing
concern with how we percieve them. What you are essentially doing is aping Euro-Muslim Anti-Americanism. Most of the former is based in anti capitalism and the later
religious fervor. You are enabling a sickness and being masochistic when you play that game.
My advice to Rob Bayn is that burning bridges is easy. You might even have a fun time doing it. However if you think advancing Gay rights will come by a radical -liberal alliance you are wrong. You must reach out to people like Neptune, Warren,
Jason and the Beak somewhat. I add somewhat in my case because it is a largely won battle in my case. We disagree on style and minor points build consensus move foward.
It is harder to build bridges but it is essential for true progress.
Revolutionaries and Radicals are great for tearing down structure but blowing up bridges is more romantic then building them.