"Be vewwy vewwy quiet we are hunting Marxist Malards. Hunting mentawy ill defectives like John Bwown has no element of skill . Hunting pwoduce like Veggietown Steve is no chawenge. Therefore we will dispence with the woooooosers and concentwate on Marxist Malards"
The above sums up the dealing with the far left. We have a cartoon Duck, a mental patient named John Brown and something that passes as produce Uptown. Our set would be complette if the rat who fancies himself a weasel would drop in. We could also study the first known commie labotomy the illucid , unmanly, 167 who redefines stupidity each and every day.
Among the many stupid comments is a classic by the Duck. He differentiates the political aspects of Marx from the economic aspects of Marx. This is absurd and if we substituted Nazism or slavery into that sentence we would get howls of laughter.
The Duck is trying the new Commie tactic of compartmentalization. The notion that there is nothing wrong with Communism and gulags, planned starvations, piles of dead bodies that mysteriously appear everywhere that Marxism is implemented are just a coincedence. Even Orwell must be laughing at the Bird Brained Malard we will free the opressed by killing as many people needlessy is a logic that escapes me.
Slavery was a historic injustice known to man long before the modern era began. Yet there were those who looked back with romanicism at a historic injustice. Contrary to the lunacy of Uptown mooooooslims were trading black slaves long before and after the Europeans got into the act. Veggietown also likes to talk about alleged Joooish role in the slave trade while ignoring the Muslim, blacks and many others who owned slaves. The entire notion of a special Jewish role in the slave trade is anti semitic. Do notice there is little focus on anyother group such as Hugenots, Speech impaired midgets or albino slave owners. This attack eminating from Mooooslims like Louis " spaceship" garbagekhan is comedic fodder worthy of SNL.
Nazism was defined by the Holocaust and agressive war. The wholesale industrial mechanical factories of death remains unique . Nazism is forever tainted and dicredited by these events. Yet we have forced famines, ethnocide, genocide, gulags , boat people , killing fields, reeducation camps, placement of political opponents in mental hospitals, persecution of homosexuals in Zimbabwe and Cua, surpression of religious freedoms and the outlawing of the study of one language in the Soviet Union Hebrew. I am sure I missed plenty of communisms greatest crimes.
The Duck's entire notion that we can compartmentalize Marxism without looking at its
history is akin to Holocaust denial in its insanity. Most coherent people have figured out after 100,000,000 head coffins oops testemonials er victims that Communism remains a bad idea. Actual Communists like Weasie and 167 try and hide their communist sympathies. However it is readily apparent upon even a simple inspection of their posts where they fall on the political spectrum.
Do note that in all of John Brown's and Weasie's conspiracy posts about 9-11 nobody
has pushed them to name suspects. No doubt Jews, Zionist Media, Neocon Cabals, the Likud, Haliburton, CIA, Larry Silverstein and Richard Simmons are the usual suspects.
Scratch a commie and one will find mental illness, antisemitism, treason, ignorance of a plethora of subjects , envy and greed .
Mr Beamish in 08, Ducky hiding from Elmer Cheeney, 167 No readers and Socrasleaze aborted.
51 comments:
We could always have Peking duck for dinner! A very veggie salad and kick jobro out the door!
tmw
wove me two times baby...
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I am sure the Duck will have a rationalization much longer then the original post but Communism is vile.
Meanwhile, Toady still sits in bold defiance of the facts.
He applauds Uncle Sam's prison gulags, torture chambers, and concentration camps - Guantanamo, Bagram, Bucca, Bondsteel as well as Rikers and San Quentin - while posturing as though he actually cares about torture and human rights.
He applauds Uncle Sam's use of chemical and nuclear weapons on civilians while acting as though he cares about terrorism.
He applauds Uncle Sam's spying on everyone without just cause or a warrant while acting as though he hates the nanny-state.
He applauds the racist Pigs on Uncle Sam's plantation while condeming their tactics when practiced anywhere else in the world.
He applauds Uncle Sam's perogative to kill anyone, anywhere, for whatever phony reason it can create, yet he excoriates the Iraqi's decision to defend themselves.
In short, Toady, these choices are made on one of three grounds: you're either retarded, hypocritical, or you know the facts but choose to believe myth.
Which is it?
The mindless John Brown returns.
I do support Government surveilence on terrorists and Marxists. As a Marxist you are an advocate of a genocidal philosophy
that has a lengthy history of subversion, treason etc in the United States. I favor the death penalty for those who gave money to our enemies in Falujah. People who violate the US law should either go to Gitmo or loose citizenship.
The comedic spectacle of a person who advocates a system that created gulags, reeducation camps and sent dissidents to mental hospitals crying about Rikers Island is a comedy classic. I know many people who were detained in Rikers Island and none ever used class and struggle in the same paragraph.
Brown, you just a fascist-supporting stooge. You support the fascists in Iraq and the theocrats in Iran just because they are fighting America. It’s clear whose side your on; why should anyone listen to you? You’re fighting for the Islamo-fascist enemy!
Beak said,
"I do support Government surveilence on terrorists and Marxists."
Lets not forget sexual deviants!
I think the "stain" would look nice in an ankle braclet.
Pappas, Beak:
Biggest hypocrites in the world. What was it that Jesus said about the speck of dust and the plank?
In this case, the plank are all the massacres in Iraq, the prison gulags, the torture, the use of chemical and nuclear weapons on civilians, etc.
Yet somehow, all the little myth believers and sorcerers seem to ignore this stuff to focus on imagined enemies and run from their shawdows.
Quite sad, really.
And, to Sambo Warren the Injun Killer: I saw that Geronimo's parents have asked President BringItOn to ensure the skull of their ancestor is returned. My offer still stands: will you post a piece condemning the Bush family for being grave robbers and calling for the body's return to its rightful owners, you've got free space on my blog.
You make me laugh, Brown. Saddam’s regime is full totalitarian fascism and you support his insurgents who are trying to re-establish his fascist regime. Iran is a fascist theocratic terrorist regime and you support this Islamist regime. They are worse than Mussolini’s fascist regime—that lasted until our invasion and regime change. You actually support a fascism that makes Il Duce’s look like Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood.
Sure thing, Pappas:
Uncle Sam's actions - including Ronnie the Crips decision to give Saddam cash and WMD to slaughter women and babies among them - dwarf anything that one of their low-life stooge allies ever did.
You’re so predictable, Brown. Saddam was an indigenous fascist (your type) who rose on his own and allied himself to your old friends in Moscow during his rise to power and during his 1st decade in power. Sure we supported his fight against Iran just as we support Stalin’s fight against Hitler. But that doesn’t mean we support Saddamism any more than we support Communism.
You just don’t get it. Saddam is Arab fascist and you support his insurgent-terrorist who are trying to re-establish his fascist regime because you support fascism itself.
Sure thing, Pappas: Keep living in your fantasy land sorcery world.
You can ignore how Saddam came to power and how he only held onto that power with Sam's help if you'd like
But just know that you're making a conscious effort to stay ignorant explictly to exonerate the crimes of the madness, barbarity, and butchery of Uncle Sam.
There's a straight line running through Sam's Plantation that goes from the decision to provide Saddam with WMD to the decision to kill thousands and thousands of Iraqis and steal their resources.
That you choose to ignore it is a conscious effort on your part to remain stupid.
More of Brown’s delusional fascist propaganda as he remains a full-fledged supporter of Saddam’s fascist remnants.
Pappas:
Your criticism means so much... especially considering that the fascist government right here on the Plantation - with their torture gulags, detention centers, COINTELPRO syping operations, and mass genocides - is cool by you.
Real credibility, there.
The greatest purveryors of violence on the planet get a free pass from the Papass. Meanwhile, he calls petty despots whose rise to power was bankrolled and supported all along by Uncle Sam the real evil.
Simply being unwilling to understand fully the depth of the crimes for which you're Sam and Haliburton's servile apologist - continually trying to shift the focus to petty hacks Uncle Sam sponsored - is your problem, not mine.
You're willfully blind to Uncle Sam's actions and are as complicit in those crimes as a Nazi concentration camp guard or Hitler's secretary.
Be a good slob for empire, Papass, and defend this:
US soldiers slaughter more Iraqi civilians in Cold Blood
BBC airs video footage of several bodies adults and children shot dead by US troops in Ishaqi on March 15.
LONDON - The US military was Friday investigating allegations made by Iraqi police that American troops rounded up and shot dead civilians in March, the BBC reported, after airing video footage it obtained of dead adults and children...
Coming from a man who says: “So yeah, the blood of martyrs is being spilled … I applaud their bravery and resistance” and “The Iraqi Resistance is heroic and brave” and you “stand alongside Venezuela, Palestine, and Iran to resist global terrorism and slaughter” – I need to add little more, Mr. Brown.
And I thought Beak was adding a little hyperbole when he used the phrase “mental illness.” I understand, now.
Typo:
I needn't add little more ...
jason pappas
If some Iraqi tanks came rolling through your neighborhood, what would you do?
And why would you expect Iraqis to behave any differently toward an American invasion?
Pappas: I stand by each of those quotes and alongside anyone who has has been occupied by brutal killers. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against terrorism from violent barbarians.
That's why, when you were busy sucking off Ronnie the Crip and applauding his decision to arm Saddam with WMD, I condemned it. BUt because you support whatever petty despot you're told to support - just like a good servant of Uncle Sam, Bank of America, and Boeing - you support it until you're told to do a 180. Then, obediently and without question like a good Amerikaner - you obey.
Obedience is the name of the game for you. MafiaDon Rummy is your God.
But you never answered me, Papass: do you condemn GI Joes slaughtering innocent children, pregnant women, and handicapped people or not? It's a simple question.
Yes or No?
Pappas: I stand by each of those quotes and alongside anyone who has has been occupied by brutal killers. Everyone has a right to defend themselves against terrorism from violent barbarians. The fact that you stand alongside the most ruthless barbarians the world has ever seen - the genocidal enslavers - gives you no zero credibility on matters of human rights.
That's why, when you were busy sucking off Ronnie the Crip and applauding his decision to arm Saddam with WMD, I condemned it. BUt because you support whatever petty despot you're told to support - just like a good servant of Uncle Sam, Bank of America, and Boeing - you support it until you're told to do a 180. Then, obediently and without question like a good Amerikaner - you obey.
Obedience is the name of the game for you. MafiaDon Rummy is your God.
But you never answered me, Papass: do you condemn GI Joes slaughtering innocent children, pregnant women, and handicapped people or not? It's a simple question.
Yes or No?
Steve, if I lived in Nazi Germany and American tanks came rolling into my neighborhood, they’d have my full support. If you lived in Nazi Germany what would you do?
But you never answered me, Papass: do you condemn GI Joes slaughtering innocent children, pregnant women, and handicapped people or not? It's a simple question. Yes or No? - John BrownShirt
It’s a loaded question and I reject the implicit statement. I stand by the American troops fighting as they did when they last fought the fascists in WWII. You’d obviously take the side of Nazis and Fascists … your indigenous “freedom fighters” opposing regime change and invasion by capitalist America. Face it, Brown, you’re just a Brown Shirt at heart.
jason
Can't you guys just answer a simple question?
I didn't ask you about Nazi Germany.
I'll ask AGAIN.
If Iraqi tanks came rolling through your neighborhood what would you do?
Would you fight them or welcome them?
How do you expect Iraqis to behave any differently than you would under the circumstances?
Steve, I answered your question. Do I have to spell it out? The Iraqis are the fascists like the Italians and Germans of WWII. And the Americans are fighting the fascists. I would not be on the side of the fascists but on the side of the anti-fascist fighters … Americans.
Now how about answering my question? If you were in Nazi Germany and American tanks came rolling into my neighborhood would you help them or fight on the side of the Nazis? C'mon, give me an answer!
jason
Oh puh-leeze. That's nothing but cheap rhetoric.
The Iraqis attacked no one, possessed no WMDS, and posed no threat to anyone other than internal warring factions that have been fighting each other for 1000 years.
If they are facists they certainly were facists 20 years ago when they were our allies and Rumsfeld, as a representative of Becthel, shook Saddam's hands before cameras and offered to build him a pipeline.
I guess you're not going to answer my question.
I’ve answered your question but you really need to have it spelled out? OK.
“If Iraqi tanks came rolling through your neighborhood what would you do?” – Steve
First it would depend on my neighborhood. Is it populated by fascists who’ve lost power and seek to regain power to dominate and oppress? Or is it populated by freedom loving people who can maintain a civil society with respect for individual rights?
Second it would depend on who is invading? Is it a fascist machine seeking to end my liberty and subject me to slavery as the Nazis did when they rolled into Poland or the Soviets did when they rolled into Eastern Europe? Or is it America, the greatest land of liberty, that is removing the fascist yoke from my back?
If I live in a fascist land invaded by a free and honorable nation, I fight with the underground to help end the regime of my oppression. If I live in the land of the free (or has aspirations and hopes for freedom) and I’m invaded by a fascist nation, I fight the invader.
To obliterate the nature of “my neighborhood” and fight no matter what kind of regime rules my country means that I would have to be a chauvinist. To obliterate the nature of the invading army and assume that the values of the foreigner are evil means that I would have to be xenophobic. I reject the chauvinist/xenophobic nature of your question.
I’ve answered it three times but you’ve not answered my question once. Would you fight with your Nazi neighbors in 1945 or would you welcome and help the invading American army? Why can’t you must answer the question once?
That should read:
Why can’t you answer the question but once?
unbelievable.
I guess you're not going to answer my question. ... even once!
Notice how the only arrow in Papass's quiver is to make the blanket condemnation that ALL Iraqis are fascists and terrorists?
What sort of racist sicko can actually make such a statement amidst Uncle Sam's slaughtering pregnant women, handicapped people, and children?
Well, people like Papass, for one: to him, Uncle Sam's actions and behavior merit no scrutiny or attention whatever. He is an obedient, servile lapdog for the most ghastly bunch of crusading murderers in human history.
He'd much rather advertise his own historical ignorance as a way of distracting from the crimes and the criminals for whom he drops onto his knees to suck-off at a moment's notice.
By the way, Papass:
A guerrilla army of diffuse, non-centralized groups organized into cells is precisely the opposite of fascism.
Not that you care about the facts, or even relevant information. But I figured it may help you to straighten out the ever-growing mountain of contradictions to which you ascribe in the name of defending those who maim and slaughter the people of Iraq with chemical and nuclear weapons.
jb
"Notice how the only arrow in Papass' quiver is to make the blanket condemnation that ALL Iraqis are facists and terrorist?"
Or the absurd notion that US invaded Iraq to "liberate" them from "oppression".
Why aren't we invading Uzebekistan and liberating those poor suffering people from Kasmirov's brutality?
Oh I forgot.
Kasmirov is Bush's buddy.
Just like Saddam was Bonzo's buddy.
It's enough to make you revisit your lunch.
Notice how Steve refuses to answer my question? He may not like my answer -- or any of my 3 answers. But he won't answer my question at all.
I did notice you haven't answered mine but launched into a long meandering evasion.
I haven’t given the answer you want but you haven’t given me any answer. You want more you'll have to give first. But you can't deal with the question.
No sorry jason.
I won't play your game.
You've given me my answer by evading.
You mean you can't answer my question. I knew you wouldn't but I decided to answer your question first. You’re a coward. You know my answer. I spelled it out and give you the principle that I use to answer the question.
I can only assume from what you've said that "being invaded” is grounds in itself to fight for your “neighborhood” that you’d fight with the Nazis against America. But I knew your fascist sympathies already.
Psst, And John BrownShirt, I'm not a racist that assumes that all Germans were Nazis.
Uptown:
Do you think Papass even knows that BringItOn's family worked with the Nazis.
Prescott, the Fords, IBM, Disney - all the little capitalist pigs before whom people like Papass and his ilk genuflect - were in bed with the Nazis.
He may throw around a bunch of idiotic rhetoric about how so and so is a Nazi supporter, but the bottom line is that the very politicians he sucks-off daily were and still are a bunch of Nazis (Toady wants to serialize - at some point - an entire book written by a bunch of Nazis).
Which explains why they're in Iraq murdering pregnant women, killing children, and butchering the handicapped.
Papass: No, you're a racist that says all Iraqis are fascist.
jb you left out Bill Gates and colonel Sanders.
Beamish is right, leftists are brain dead. How did I forget? They give you boiler-plate answers and the throw pre-canned questions in the hopes they'll trip you up. But when you answer their questions and go into territory where they’ve never been, they are lost without their Chomsky playbook. Then you see the anxiety that comes with having to think for the first time. Panic sets in. “These are ideas that I haven’t considered.” First they try to avoid them but something tells them it isn’t working. They try to repeat, change the topic, or pretend they understand. And they hope that you won’t them on it.
How could I have doubted a web-warrior like Beamish and Beak. You guys have the battle scares for experience.
BringitOn himself was in business with BIN LADEN family!
In the words of Gil Scot-Heron:
"Just how blind will America be?
Ain't no tellin'"
Go ahead! Keep on replaying the Chomsky play book: Prescott, the Oil Man’s friends, etc. Just don’t ask ‘em questions that break new ground not covered in the playbook.
It’s clear that we are talking to brain-dead Chomsky sheep.
Those damned facts & stupid evidence is a bitch sometimes, ain't it Papass. Especially when you're defending the indefensible.
All you've done today is apologize for supporting fascists, slavers, and genociders. Rhetoric from an imbecile.
Talk about a broken-record! Maybe next you can stand up and defend baby-rapers with the same pride and indignation as you defend BringItOn, Bonzo, and the Nazis.
Chomsky supported John Kerry and he defends Apartheid Israel. I don't.
To the left of Chomsky? Is he too much of an anarchist for an old Trot like yourself? Or are you a full blown Stalinist?
Let us observe the the advanced stages of leftism, where rote belief of total nonsense have reduced the foolish into dullards.
LoBrow said: Notice how the only arrow in Papass's quiver is to make the blanket condemnation that ALL Iraqis are fascists and terrorists?
Immediately note the disconnect from reality. Jason Pappas made no such "blanket condemnation" nor did he label "ALL" Iraqis fascists and terrorists.
Intriguingly, LoBrow seems blissfully unaware that the entire thread is open for view and that clearly he is misrepresenting Jason Pappas completely. It's as if LoBrow is locked in the throes of an illusion. He's the only one who can't see that he's made an ass of himself.
Naturally, this isn't much divergent from the standard leftist, who varies in intellect ranges between that of discarded chewing gum and a bowl of oatmeal,
but there is a much deeper level to LoBrow, being that he is more further left-wing than Ducky could run Uptownseteve off with a Democrat's firehose and promises of brick cheese.
LoBrow has reached beyond having the standard leftist's mere solipsistic lack of awareness of the world around him to a binary sequence of authoritarian simplicity. Iraqis can't have minds of their own, they're just propaganda tools to LoBrow. So, no awareness of context of history or contemporaneous events enters LoBrow's thought. "ALL" Iraqis must fight the Americans trying to topple Saddam and destroy his legacy insurgents, even if most of "ALL" those same Iraqis were living and suffering under Saddam Hussein's tyranny a day before.
Encouraged by LoBrow's hallucination, Uptownseteve hallucinates along with him.
But neither answer Jason Pappas' formal question:
If you were in Nazi Germany and American tanks came rolling into your neighborhood would you help the Americans or fight on the side of the Nazis?
Because to do so who require critical analysis of three-dimensional reality and a real appreciation for the nature of the Saddam Hussein regime and the suffering of the people under it.
But these dupes can't do it. Saddam gets off the hook and, well, why the hell not, since the "true Iraqi" blows himself up in a crowd of schoolchildren or people lined up to vote.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the left.
Maybe the left isn't dried gourd dumb.
Maybe they're just maliciously evil.
beamish
"Encouraged by LoBrow's hallucination, Uptownseteve hallucinates along with him.
But neither answer Jason Pappas' formal question:
If you were in Nazi Germany and American tanks came rolling into your neighborhood would you help the Americans or fight on the side of the Nazis?"
But you're wrong.
Pappas never answered my question which was "If Iraqi tanks came rolling through your neighborhood what would you do?"
And instead attempted a flip question which doesn't deal with the issue.
Would you fight a totally unjustified and immoral invasion of your HOME by a foreign entity?
All I get is evasion.
Would you fight a totally unjustified and immoral invasion of your HOME by a foreign entity?
Of course. And I'd help a justified, moral invasion if, like in the case of Saddam's Iraq, my home country were a Nazi-like totalitarian state being invaded by freedom-championing Americans come to liberate my people from tyranny.
My answer isn't all that dissimilar to Jason Pappas' answer. Rub the hallucinations from your eyes and re-read the thread above.
Your inability to accept that there's a universe outside your mind, a leftist trademark, keeps you in a state of ignorance about the thoughts of someone in the Iraqi people's situation. You can't even individualize an Iraqi person. To you, they're all just generic "people" and every one of them collectively desire to return to Saddam Hussein's grip.
Oh, but you don't think it through that far, mind you. Leftists are as bitterly opposed to the theory that effects have causes as they are emphatic about convincing people that they're stupid.
You're probably of the mind that candy chews will fall from rainbows in the sky when America allows Iraq to fall into chaos.
I mean, after all, you gloss over Saddam's tyranny now.
beamish
Wasn't Saddam a tyrant 20 years ago when he was our ally and Rummy offered to build him a pipeline?
Isn't our ally Kasmirov of Uzbekistan a tyrant who boils political enemies in acid?
You righties aren't real big on consistency.
Uptownseteve,
Wasn't Saddam a tyrant 20 years ago when he was our ally and Rummy offered to build him a pipeline?
Sure. Just as he was when France gave him missiles and a nuclear reactor. And Russia and China sold him the weapons for the 4th largest military in the world.
Did he stop being a tyrant when America took him out?
Isn't our ally Kasmirov of Uzbekistan a tyrant who boils political enemies in acid?
Isn't our detractor Jacques Chirac of France an asshole who guns down Ivorian protesters with machine guns and helicopter gunships in Cote D'Ivoire?
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