tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post114922004362625566..comments2024-02-20T21:48:16.978-05:00Comments on The Beak Speaks: Duck seasonbeakerkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149555252996966892006-06-05T19:54:00.000-05:002006-06-05T19:54:00.000-05:00Uptownseteve,Wasn't Saddam a tyrant 20 years ago w...Uptownseteve,<BR/><BR/><I>Wasn't Saddam a tyrant 20 years ago when he was our ally and Rummy offered to build him a pipeline?</I><BR/><BR/>Sure. Just as he was when France gave him missiles and a nuclear reactor. And Russia and China sold him the weapons for the 4th largest military in the world. <BR/><BR/>Did he stop being a tyrant when America took him out?<BR/><BR/><I>Isn't our ally Kasmirov of Uzbekistan a tyrant who boils political enemies in acid?</I><BR/><BR/>Isn't our detractor Jacques Chirac of France an asshole who guns down Ivorian protesters with machine guns and helicopter gunships in Cote D'Ivoire?(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149536785932862022006-06-05T14:46:00.000-05:002006-06-05T14:46:00.000-05:00beamishWasn't Saddam a tyrant 20 years ago when he...beamish<BR/><BR/>Wasn't Saddam a tyrant 20 years ago when he was our ally and Rummy offered to build him a pipeline?<BR/><BR/>Isn't our ally Kasmirov of Uzbekistan a tyrant who boils political enemies in acid?<BR/><BR/>You righties aren't real big on consistency.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149474007455464832006-06-04T21:20:00.000-05:002006-06-04T21:20:00.000-05:00Would you fight a totally unjustified and immoral ...<I>Would you fight a totally unjustified and immoral invasion of your HOME by a foreign entity?</I><BR/><BR/>Of course. And I'd help a justified, moral invasion if, like in the case of Saddam's Iraq, my home country were a Nazi-like totalitarian state being invaded by freedom-championing Americans come to liberate my people from tyranny. <BR/><BR/>My answer isn't all that dissimilar to Jason Pappas' answer. Rub the hallucinations from your eyes and re-read the thread above. <BR/><BR/>Your inability to accept that there's a universe outside your mind, a leftist trademark, keeps you in a state of ignorance about the thoughts of someone in the Iraqi people's situation. You can't even individualize an Iraqi person. To you, they're all just generic "people" and every one of them collectively desire to return to Saddam Hussein's grip. <BR/><BR/>Oh, but you don't think it through that far, mind you. Leftists are as bitterly opposed to the theory that effects have causes as they are emphatic about convincing people that they're stupid. <BR/><BR/>You're probably of the mind that candy chews will fall from rainbows in the sky when America allows Iraq to fall into chaos.<BR/><BR/>I mean, after all, you gloss over Saddam's tyranny <I>now</I>.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149465646734748562006-06-04T19:00:00.000-05:002006-06-04T19:00:00.000-05:00beamish"Encouraged by LoBrow's hallucination, Upto...beamish<BR/><BR/>"Encouraged by LoBrow's hallucination, Uptownseteve hallucinates along with him. <BR/><BR/>But neither answer Jason Pappas' formal question:<BR/><BR/>If you were in Nazi Germany and American tanks came rolling into your neighborhood would you help the Americans or fight on the side of the Nazis?"<BR/><BR/>But you're wrong.<BR/><BR/>Pappas never answered my question which was "If Iraqi tanks came rolling through your neighborhood what would you do?"<BR/><BR/>And instead attempted a flip question which doesn't deal with the issue.<BR/><BR/>Would you fight a totally unjustified and immoral invasion of your HOME by a foreign entity?<BR/><BR/>All I get is evasion.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149403013321390712006-06-04T01:36:00.000-05:002006-06-04T01:36:00.000-05:00Let us observe the the advanced stages of leftism,...Let us observe the the advanced stages of leftism, where rote belief of total nonsense have reduced the foolish into dullards.<BR/><BR/>LoBrow said: <I>Notice how the only arrow in Papass's quiver is to make the blanket condemnation that <B>ALL</B> Iraqis are fascists and terrorists?</I><BR/><BR/>Immediately note the disconnect from reality. Jason Pappas made no such "blanket condemnation" nor did he label "ALL" Iraqis fascists and terrorists.<BR/><BR/>Intriguingly, LoBrow seems blissfully unaware that the entire thread is open for view and that clearly he is misrepresenting Jason Pappas completely. It's as if LoBrow is locked in the throes of an illusion. He's the only one who can't see that he's made an ass of himself. <BR/><BR/>Naturally, this isn't much divergent from the standard leftist, who varies in intellect ranges between that of discarded chewing gum and a bowl of oatmeal,<BR/>but there is a much deeper level to LoBrow, being that he is more further left-wing than Ducky could run Uptownseteve off with a Democrat's firehose and promises of brick cheese.<BR/><BR/>LoBrow has reached beyond having the standard leftist's mere solipsistic lack of awareness of the world around him to a binary sequence of authoritarian simplicity. Iraqis can't have minds of their own, they're just propaganda tools to LoBrow. So, no awareness of context of history or contemporaneous events enters LoBrow's thought. "ALL" Iraqis must fight the Americans trying to topple Saddam and destroy his legacy insurgents, even if most of "ALL" those same Iraqis were living and suffering under Saddam Hussein's tyranny a day before.<BR/><BR/>Encouraged by LoBrow's hallucination, Uptownseteve hallucinates along with him. <BR/><BR/>But neither answer Jason Pappas' formal question:<BR/><BR/><B>If you were in Nazi Germany and American tanks came rolling into your neighborhood would you help the Americans or fight on the side of the Nazis?</B><BR/><BR/>Because to do so who require critical analysis of three-dimensional reality and a real appreciation for the nature of the Saddam Hussein regime and the suffering of the people under it.<BR/><BR/>But these dupes can't do it. Saddam gets off the hook and, well, why the hell not, since the "true Iraqi" blows himself up in a crowd of schoolchildren or people lined up to vote.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm misunderstanding the left.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the left isn't dried gourd dumb.<BR/><BR/>Maybe they're just maliciously evil.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149282210085915962006-06-02T16:03:00.000-05:002006-06-02T16:03:00.000-05:00To the left of Chomsky? Is he too much of an anarc...To the left of Chomsky? Is he too much of an anarchist for an old Trot like yourself? Or are you a full blown Stalinist?Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149281712370188512006-06-02T15:55:00.000-05:002006-06-02T15:55:00.000-05:00Those damned facts & stupid evidence is a bitch so...Those damned facts & stupid evidence is a bitch sometimes, ain't it Papass. Especially when you're defending the indefensible. <BR/><BR/>All you've done today is apologize for supporting fascists, slavers, and genociders. Rhetoric from an imbecile.<BR/><BR/>Talk about a broken-record! Maybe next you can stand up and defend baby-rapers with the same pride and indignation as you defend BringItOn, Bonzo, and the Nazis.<BR/><BR/>Chomsky supported John Kerry and he defends Apartheid Israel. I don't.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515280071887632569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149278232622932262006-06-02T14:57:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:57:00.000-05:00Go ahead! Keep on replaying the Chomsky play book:...Go ahead! Keep on replaying the Chomsky play book: Prescott, the Oil Man’s friends, etc. Just don’t ask ‘em questions that break new ground not covered in the playbook. <BR/><BR/>It’s clear that we are talking to brain-dead Chomsky sheep.Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277990350509602006-06-02T14:53:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:53:00.000-05:00BringitOn himself was in business with BIN LADEN f...BringitOn himself was in business with BIN LADEN family!<BR/><BR/>In the words of Gil Scot-Heron:<BR/><BR/>"Just how blind will America be?<BR/><BR/> Ain't no tellin'"uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277977144667142006-06-02T14:52:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:52:00.000-05:00Beamish is right, leftists are brain dead. How did...Beamish is right, leftists are brain dead. How did I forget? They give you boiler-plate answers and the throw pre-canned questions in the hopes they'll trip you up. But when you answer their questions and go into territory where they’ve never been, they are lost without their Chomsky playbook. Then you see the anxiety that comes with having to think for the first time. Panic sets in. “These are ideas that I haven’t considered.” First they try to avoid them but something tells them it isn’t working. They try to repeat, change the topic, or pretend they understand. And they hope that you won’t them on it.<BR/><BR/>How could I have doubted a web-warrior like Beamish and Beak. You guys have the battle scares for experience.Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277914305210502006-06-02T14:51:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:51:00.000-05:00jb you left out Bill Gates and colonel Sanders.jb you left out Bill Gates and colonel Sanders.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277855970632962006-06-02T14:50:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:50:00.000-05:00Papass: No, you're a racist that says all Iraqis ...Papass: No, you're a racist that says all Iraqis are fascist.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515280071887632569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277715975479692006-06-02T14:48:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:48:00.000-05:00Uptown:Do you think Papass even knows that BringIt...Uptown:<BR/><BR/>Do you think Papass even knows that BringItOn's family worked with the Nazis.<BR/><BR/>Prescott, the Fords, IBM, Disney - all the little capitalist pigs before whom people like Papass and his ilk genuflect - were in bed with the Nazis.<BR/><BR/>He may throw around a bunch of idiotic rhetoric about how so and so is a Nazi supporter, but the bottom line is that the very politicians he sucks-off daily were and still are a bunch of Nazis (Toady wants to serialize - at some point - an entire book written by a bunch of Nazis). <BR/><BR/>Which explains why they're in Iraq murdering pregnant women, killing children, and butchering the handicapped.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515280071887632569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277396275845182006-06-02T14:43:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:43:00.000-05:00Psst, And John BrownShirt, I'm not a racist that a...Psst, And John BrownShirt, I'm not a racist that assumes that all Germans were Nazis.Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277314740229182006-06-02T14:41:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:41:00.000-05:00You mean you can't answer my question. I knew you ...You mean you can't answer my question. I knew you wouldn't but I decided to answer your question first. You’re a coward. You know my answer. I spelled it out and give you the principle that I use to answer the question. <BR/><BR/>I can only assume from what you've said that "being invaded” is grounds in itself to fight for your “neighborhood” that you’d fight with the Nazis against America. But I knew your fascist sympathies already.Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149277090689893622006-06-02T14:38:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:38:00.000-05:00No sorry jason.I won't play your game.You've given...No sorry jason.<BR/><BR/>I won't play your game.<BR/><BR/>You've given me my answer by evading.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149276669930570792006-06-02T14:31:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:31:00.000-05:00I haven’t given the answer you want but you haven’...I haven’t given the answer you want but you haven’t given me any answer. You want more you'll have to give first. But you can't deal with the question.Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149276482831661542006-06-02T14:28:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:28:00.000-05:00I did notice you haven't answered mine but launche...I did notice you haven't answered mine but launched into a long meandering evasion.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149276327356975192006-06-02T14:25:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:25:00.000-05:00Notice how Steve refuses to answer my question? He...Notice how Steve refuses to answer my question? He may not like my answer -- or any of my 3 answers. But he won't answer my question at all.Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149276156545031772006-06-02T14:22:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:22:00.000-05:00jb"Notice how the only arrow in Papass' quiver is ...jb<BR/><BR/>"Notice how the only arrow in Papass' quiver is to make the blanket condemnation that ALL Iraqis are facists and terrorist?"<BR/><BR/>Or the absurd notion that US invaded Iraq to "liberate" them from "oppression".<BR/><BR/>Why aren't we invading Uzebekistan and liberating those poor suffering people from Kasmirov's brutality?<BR/><BR/>Oh I forgot.<BR/><BR/>Kasmirov is Bush's buddy.<BR/><BR/>Just like Saddam was Bonzo's buddy.<BR/><BR/>It's enough to make you revisit your lunch.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149275188791848722006-06-02T14:06:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:06:00.000-05:00By the way, Papass:A guerrilla army of diffuse, no...By the way, Papass:<BR/><BR/>A guerrilla army of diffuse, non-centralized groups organized into cells is precisely the opposite of fascism.<BR/><BR/>Not that you care about the facts, or even relevant information. But I figured it may help you to straighten out the ever-growing mountain of contradictions to which you ascribe in the name of defending those who maim and slaughter the people of Iraq with chemical and nuclear weapons.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515280071887632569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149275010446349012006-06-02T14:03:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:03:00.000-05:00Notice how the only arrow in Papass's quiver is to...Notice how the only arrow in Papass's quiver is to make the blanket condemnation that <B>ALL</B> Iraqis are fascists and terrorists?<BR/><BR/>What sort of racist sicko can actually make such a statement amidst Uncle Sam's slaughtering pregnant women, handicapped people, and children?<BR/><BR/>Well, people like Papass, for one: to him, Uncle Sam's actions and behavior merit no scrutiny or attention whatever. He is an obedient, servile lapdog for the most ghastly bunch of crusading murderers in human history.<BR/><BR/>He'd much rather advertise his own historical ignorance as a way of distracting from the crimes and the criminals for whom he drops onto his knees to suck-off at a moment's notice.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515280071887632569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149274866840895312006-06-02T14:01:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:01:00.000-05:00I guess you're not going to answer my question. .....I guess you're not going to answer my question. ... even once!Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149274762991115202006-06-02T13:59:00.000-05:002006-06-02T13:59:00.000-05:00unbelievable.unbelievable.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1149274231888469922006-06-02T13:50:00.000-05:002006-06-02T13:50:00.000-05:00That should read:Why can’t you answer the question...That should read:<BR/>Why can’t you answer the question but <B>once</B>?Jason Pappashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18233796281520274898noreply@blogger.com