Wednesday, October 11, 2006

Homophobia Frauds

Many of you now know that I consider sexual relations between consenting adults to be a private matter. In a limited way MZ does make some valid points. The parades are in dreadful taste, but NYC and other places manage to survive. Many Gay people themselves find the antics somewhat over the top. The reality is that if you don't like it don't go. If you live in the area as I did take a day away and return later.

I want to show the profound difference between Rob Bayn and Gert. Rob is gay and will
talk about gay rights wherever they are being mistreated. He will critique Fallwells stupid remarks like blaming 9-11 on gays. The remarks was certainly stupid and odious. However, the vast majority of screaming conspiracy goons have zero problem
with Jewish conspiracies. Even Art Bell who knows a thing or two about conspiracy nuts calls this group decidedly antisemitic.Rob also understands that there are many countries where gays are harrassed by the government as policy. He has zero problem criticizing persecution of Gays in the Muslim world or far left misruled countries.
Gert who seems to think homophobia is so evil has not devoted a single post to the persecution of gays in the PA. One finds almost no posts on his blog that are critical of anyone other than Israel with the odd American hit post tossed in.

The person who would lecture us all about homophobia is a marked hypocrite when the chickens come home to roost. His good friend Weazie recently accused me of being gay and it say more about Weazie being a venomous communist antisemite frothing in hatred. We have done a series of posts that one can not determine who is gay by interests, where they live, if they have children or vocation. Justin Morris is an Army Veteran and I worked in the fashion industry. The stereotype would say I am gay
and Justin isn't, but it is wrong.

Gert's odd mannerism's lead many to speculate if he is gay or has gender issues. This is not my opinion alone and his use of body parts and sprinkled with liberal use of the word bitch is odd. His pen name beakerpoop even inquires about the size of
my genetalia. Then there is he nice poem written in his style that starts off Beakernazi does suck because he has no teeth that also makes refernces to my sexuality. How did I react to Weazie's accusation? I laughed at it just as the product of a person frothing in far left commie antisemitic hatred and the stupidity
that accompanies his every comment. I find the odd obsession of Beakerpoop seemingly
creepy but it is yet another example of the depths of self righteous hatred the far left finds acceptable as long as the target is to the right of Hugo Chavez. Another example of this is Uptown who doesn't object to racial term used on Condoleza Rice by Ducky. Ducky hides behind the ravings of Harry Belacommie.

Compare and contrast my reactions to that of Gert who would lecture all of us in self righteous angst. I find it mildly amusing and the product of people's anger gone into overdrive. I do not get all upset or preachy but then I don't walk around calling scores of people homophobes especially Nanc. Neither Rob nor Justin have ever called Nanc a homophobe. Gert trots out every cliche under the sun. I have kids,
but so does Justin and scores of Gay men. I am married but so was Justin. I don't have a gay bone (boner) in my body, since when are bones gay. Then he gets all hysterical about the accusation.

Here is the whole point of the excersize. Nobody really knows who is gay or straight
unless one volunteers the information. There is no stereotype that or combination of them that says person A is Gay and person B isn't. However, a person who is going to lecture people about homophobia should be more enlightened. The heated denials and crying about such an accusation are homophobic behavior. If the person honestly felt
it was not a big deal then why does he make such a big deal.

Moreover if you are going to fling this charge it help like Rob to apply it where it exists with no sacred cows. There is no group more decidedly prejudiced against gays
than Muslims itself. Shariah courts execute gays after show trials and genuine torture. The PA which Gert never criticizes persecutes Gays as public policy. Gays flee the PA to Israel for safety and this is no laughing matter. If this topic is so important then kindly dedicate the space without the pc excuses. Fact Israel treats gays better than any other country in the area.

Homophobia is a real and serious problem. No sane person ever advocates violence against gays. Gay people are persecuted as government policy imprisoned and killed because they are being themselves. Self righteously tossing the label homophobe at Nanc and then having a temper tantrum when people call you gay is hypocrisy.

66 comments:

nanc said...

you may have a case - look what they gave this lady regarding the defamation of her character:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-10-10-internet-defamation-case_x.htm

i'm sure you know some very good lawyers...

American Crusader said...

Beak...you don't get near enough credit for your creative writing. While most people just copy and paste, you take the time to put out original thought.
Keep it up..it is a breath of fresh air.
I personally don't like homosexuals. I don't want to offend anyone, but it's how I feel. I have known several who seemed like pretty good guys overall but in my opinion homosexuality is a perversion.
I know there are many who will say that those who don't like homosexuals are really compensating for their own homoerotic feelings but this is a fallacious argument.
I don't like child molesters either so does that mean I secretly want to molest children?

Da Weaz said...

read it and weap you fucking moron:

http://clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://weazlsrevenge.blogspot.com

beakerkin said...

Weazie

Nobody cares? You are a moron. You don't have commenters and even if you did your social skills are on a par with an axe murderer or a mental pateint.

You are a loser without a friend in the world. Nanc is laughing at you good psycho.

AC

Sexuality alone doesn't mean a thing by itself. We would all be better served by judging people as individuals. It would be a better world if we all lived that way.

The Merry Widow said...

Beaker- I've never been to his, Weazie's, site, I have no desire to go there. Why should I carry garbage into my house? With 2 teens, I have enough to take out!

tmw

beakerkin said...

I honestly have no idea why Weazie comes here. His site should be so busy it should require moderation.

I have been there and found nothing worth reading. Weazie is just another far left Communist anti-semite who is drawn to this place.I have zero patience or regard for 9-11 conspiracy nuts.

Mr. Ducky said...

I bet merry widows loves homos. She just hates the sin. So as long as they are good little pickininies and stay in their place she's just as pleased as punch.

Robert Bayn said...

Beak, please don't refer to me as "gay", i'm currently in the process of removing myself from that lifestyle. I beleive as a Christian i'm suppose to walk in the same way Jesus walked, we know that Jesus would have not turned his back on the sexually perversed, in fact in the bible we see just the opposite. Jesus also called me not to Judge (Matthew 7:1), if my own backyard is dirty, and causing me to sin, how can i justifiably help someone else? It's important to remember homosexuals are people too, with feelings and hurts just like everyone else, and should be treated with dignity and respect, however those who go about claiming homophobia or hate crimes against people just because they disagree with the lifestyle are wrong, unless someone is using dergartory terms against homosexuals, or promoting violence against gays, than that takes it to another level. I would say to be carefull, because hate will corrupt the heart, and a corrupted heart cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

beakerkin said...

I will not refer to you in that manner. If this is what you want to live your life and be happy more power to you.

I am glad your commitment to dignity has remained unchanged. All
people should be treated with dignity.

Thank you for the correction and not rubbing the Yankees tanking .
I hope you are still going to watch American Idol and we can joke about that.

Ducky that kind of sound like the way you treat Jews. TMW is compassionate even to those who clearly don't deserve it like Weazie.

Mr. Ducky said...

"compassionate even to those who clearly don't deserve it."

That says quite a bit, Beak. I assume you are the judge, right?

Mr. Ducky said...

Beak should post an article on A-Rod disease and why no team with Alex Rodriguez will ever win a championship.

I enjoy the way pounding the crap out of the Spankees is being passed around the A.L. and look for Minnesota to kick their sorry asses next year.

I hope the Red Sox take a year of down time and regroup.

beakerkin said...

Ducky

Why not only am I the judge, I am the beneficiary. TMW and many others have said prayers for me. I am somewhat less charitable. My sentiments for a John Brown or Weazie are more akin to a mad dog. However, mad dogs were once usefull and loved. Neither of the two misfits could ever be described in those terms.

nanc said...

i am NOT afraid of homophobic frauds!

nanc said...

robert - i had to mull your comment over for awhile before responding. i don't always shoot from the lip...er hip!

may i say i feel you have made a good decision and i am ecstatic for you. i never understood how you could recognize the confines of marriage between a man and a woman, yet continue to live adulterously - it never computed for me.

go with G-d.

beakerkin said...

I support Rob in whatever he decides will make him happy. Rob remains a friend first and foremost.

I am slightly concerned that he may change his views on popular culture. Who am I going to joke with about American Idol, the NY Yankees and the dreadful Knicks ?

Will this mean that I will have to direct my Barry Manilow jokes at Ducky?

Robert Bayn said...

Nanc, i couldn't agree more, go with God.

For me as i understand the bible any sexual relations outside of marriage (one man one woman) is consider sexual perversion, so in my new walk with Christ that is how i look at things.

Robert Bayn said...

Beak, I haven't deceided yet about American Idol, if Simon is around than i will probably watch it, as far as the Yankees, i believe that getting their butt's kicked by the virtually unknown tigers is painful enough, and there is no need to say anything about the Knicks, no need to put salt on a sore wound!

The Merry Widow said...

Robert- How wonderful, a new brother! Being an only, I appreciate all the brothers and sisters G*D blesses me with! I will certainly be praying for you, changing in such a big way can be painful, leaving the people and places you love and are comfortable with! I pray that G*D will send you many who will love and accept you and encourage you in your walk! If you are interested, ask Beaker for my addy for continued encouragement!
Beaker- You're right, I do pray for you, also for plucky and sundry others who are obviously miserable.
As Nanc says, Go with G*D and be blessed!

tmw
P.S. You can be a Christian and still love sports!

nanc said...

only if it's golf.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I hope the Mets sweep the Cardinals so St. Louis sportcasters can get back to talking about actual sports (Rams football) instead of pseudo-athletic performance art (major league baseball).

Elmer's Brother said...

I enjoy the way pounding the crap out of the Spankees is being passed around

I'm sure you enjoy the pounding way too much Ducky.

nanc said...

oh, elbro - why that was so tender - izing!

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Baseball and gayness.

Synchronicity.

The Merry Widow said...

Beaker- And what is wrong with Barry Manilow? I enjoyed his singing when I was young and callow(which is just a fancy way of saying, shallow and immature).

tmw

beakerkin said...

TMW There are certain artists that a are perfectly fine for women to like like Barry Manilow. One doesn't find to many guys that will admit to liking Manilow, the Carpenters or Abba.

nanc said...

why are we talking about barely amanilow, again?

Always On Watch said...

Robert,
Well! I'm nearly speechless.

May your walk with the Lord be close--closer than before.

I just said a prayer for you--for strength and for perpetual commitment to following His will.

Robert Bayn said...

Beak, have you read Jerusalem Countdown?

I'm currently reading it, the book is so revealing.

Elmer's Brother said...

Robert,

What AoW and Nanc said only triple it.

beakerkin said...

Rob

I haven't read that book.

One of the points I try to make is we define ourselves. Rob has chosen to redefine himself, not that there was ever anything less than admirable with the old version. Well except for his fondness for Simon Cowell.

Many of us walk through life with the same definition of ourselves for years. Take Ducky, he is probably the same man he was thirty years ago.

I have to laugh because this ties into some cyberturd Gert. Gert is crying because of my description of him as an antisemite, commie and
his rather odd manerism/proclivities.He has no problems dishing out labels and profanity himself racist homophobe.
The sneak prefers the shadows where he can spam the place as Beakerpoop. In reality I stand by my description, but only you can define yourself.

The Merry Widow said...

Robert- Read it and passed it on! We don't obey and honor the Jews, we are in for a world of hurt!
Nanc- barely amanilow is no longer who I listen too! Lots of classical, Beethoven, Bach, Rachmaninov, Tchakovsky...not Mozart. Contemporary Christian, and the soundtrack to Madagascar! I crack my daughter up with my operetic renditions.
Beaker- Those who refuse to change and grow become stale and left behind.

tmw

beakerkin said...

Ducky listen to what TMW wrote.

Always On Watch said...

Robert & Nanc,
have you read Jerusalem Countdown?

A friend of mine gave me copy just last week. Guess I'd better set about reading it.

Robert Bayn said...

Beak, i disagree with Redefining myself, rather finding myself and more important my saviour.

Elmer's Brother said...

ok ok I like The Carpenters and Abba.

nanc said...

i haven't read it, aow - will have to check it out.

nanc said...

elbro - don't come in here lookin' like me saying, "i like the carpenters and abba!"!

beakerkin said...

Rob in life we journey and most of us grow along the way. You were always very attached to Christianity. I want to stress no matter what you chose you are always my friend.

nanc said...

i've been meaning to say how much i like rob's avatar - i was a little angry at first with it, but now i see how it looks like an anchor. nothing much is easy without there first being a struggle.

nanc said...

oh great - we're over here gushing about a new life and i'm singlehandedly doing battle with an islamic sympathizer at madze's - people - get your priorities straight!

nanc said...

any y'all ever tried to do battle in one of these outfits? you've got to be tough first of all.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Nanc,

Okay. I put in my shot.

Now can we get back to the baseball fan bashing?

uptownseteve said...

robert bayn

You are gay and you seem to be a conservative.

How do you reconcile the two?

Particularly in light of the right's homophobia as the Foley affair has revealed so starkly?

Honest question.

nanc said...

did beak go out for popeye's?

Always On Watch said...

Nanc,
i haven't read it, aow - will have to check it out.

These new meds! I can't keep names straight either when I'm between doses.

EB,
I have albums by The Carpenters and Abba. Not many, but a few.

Beak said to Rob, I want to stress no matter what you chose you are always my friend.

Friends are friends and are able to overlook differences.

I need to go to bed before I get too mushy. I tell you, folks, a neuro med makes life interesting. ;)
I'll be back to my old self as my body adjusts. Bear with me.

beakerkin said...

Uptown

Rob is a Christian and no longer defines himself in the terms you speak of. He is a patriotic liberal which is a different animal then you or Ducky.

Robert Bayn said...

Stevo, you can't read? And ask anyone here, i'm far from being conservative, not that theres anything wrong with that...

nanc said...

very good assumption, rob.

beakerkin said...

Rob

Uptown is not a reader. His terms are relative as to where he stands politically. He is so far over to the left that he is in the seats. John Brown is even out of the stadium.

Robert Bayn said...

Nanc, if you ever watch Seinfield you would understand that phrase, one of most famous seinfeld episode, a little of my dry humor.

Beak, i understand where stevo comes from, everyone is a racist except for him, Republicans are nazi's and Proud and outspoken Jews are the real evil, unforuntly i come from the real world, blacks can be as much racist as whites, republicans just have a different view (where as i'm in the middle between Democrats and Republicans), and i believe the more voices speak up for any segment of the worlds population is a good thing, too often one or two people get credit for representing a entire group of people, when in reality, they offer views that a lot don't agree with that might be part of that segment of the population, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are prime examples of this, i would dare say most african americans will tell you not only do these men not represent them, they don't agree with them on many issues.

nanc said...

i'd be willing to bet you receive an entire slew of new posters who only showed up sporadically up until this point in time. call it a hunch - i have nothing to lose - i already lost it.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Uptownseteve,

Republicans aren't the ones who are spending the remaining weeks until the elections conceding their party's weakness on the economy, national security, and terrorism to concentrate on a round of "who else knew Foley was a fudgepackin' faggot and did nothing?" That's the Democrat game plan in a nutshell. Even the puppet leftist media monkeys are on deck - "Is Bush's proposal to place sanctions on North Korea a ploy to get America to stop being fascinated with what Mark Foley does with his dick?" - And Americans ain't biting.

As a student of history, I don't find the lack of intellectual substance in the left's rhetoric all that surprising. Nor is it surprising the simpering manic phase that inevitably preceeds the depressed "election was stolen" sore loserism we'll be hearing in a month from the left.

It's all happened before, and it will happen again.

Until... the left does something novel, like convince a respectable number of people that somewhere out there, there is a leftist that is smart enough to not take his Chia pet to the vet when the leaves fall off.

nanc said...

stoppppppppppppppppppppp!!!

beamish! hot coffee - hot!

nanc said...

rob - if i may call you that?

i never really cared for seinfeld - they should have scrapped everyone but kramer and called it oh, let me see..."kramer"!

my favorite half-hour sitcom of all time was "barney miller" - now there was some funny stuff.

kuhnkat said...

Robert said:

"For me as i understand the bible any sexual relations outside of marriage (one man one woman) is consider sexual perversion, so in my new walk with Christ that is how i look at things."

It is absolutely amazing to me how few people really understand that simple, straightforward idea!!!!

Civilisation is all about controlling our personal desires and lusts for the betterment of ourselves, our family, and our society.

Leftards show how little they understand themselves or humanity by promoting promiscuity and ALTERNATE life styles.

May your journey with Christ be forever!!

beakerkin said...

Wow I am very impressed!!!
I had expected a more stern post but am pleasantly surprised.

nanc said...

kuhnkat forgot to throw a few haha's in for good measure.

beakerkin said...

Nanc I do not think we ever did get Kuknkat to sit for an interview.

The Merry Widow said...

It would be kewl if we could nail down one foot long enough!

tmw

nanc said...

i don't know if you could get that one to sit for supper!

hahahahaha!

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Sorry 'bout the coffee, Nanc. But you know it is true. Utter morons like Uptownseteve and especially Ducky don't have a friggin' clue what they believe politically until they hear the Republican position and jump on the other side of it. The idea of formulating their own thoughts and political positions has never even occured to them.

That's why the Foley "scandal" matters so much to them. Without it occupying the airtime, the media would be forced to question why the Democratic Party hasn't released a coherently stated political agenda since 1871.

nanc said...

between beamish and elbro - i think i'm beginning to finally develop callouses in my nose! thanks guys.

Freedomnow said...

Let me be the devil's advocate and say since the late 1940's.

Truman's Doctrine was instrumental in saving Western Europe from Communism.

The Berlin Airlift

The Marshall Plan

The Greek Civil War

His handling of the Korean War was OK. He underestimated the Chinese, but he successfully defeated the North Korean invasion and after the ceasefire wound up with more land than before the North invaded.

Of course we still have problems today, but the option of having a full scale war with China was a bad one. Especially, since the Soviet Union was right nextdoor if China needed help.

It was a mistake to ask Russia invade North Korea at the end of the war. That was a disaster, but to be fair - at the time it seemed reasonable. Looking back in hindsight is easy to pass judgement, just like passing gas.

The fact is that Stalin was a greasy bastard who pulled the wool over FDR's eyes and Truman quickly found that with that dictator there was really nothing to negotiate.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Horseshit, FN!

Truman was one of the worst Presidents in American history, and I say that ready to piss in the eye of any Missouri Democrat on my block who dares say otherwise.

Truman is the reason Eastern Europe remained under Communism for nearly 60 years after World War 2, never mind his asking Russia to invade North Korea, which was merely his way of assuring that true students of history eternally regard him as an imbecile.

When it comes to wartime leadership, the absolute last kind of idiot you want in charge of it is a Democrat.

Jeff Bargholz said...

Mr. Dorky:

Minnesota, huh? That explains a lot.

Jeff Bargholz said...

FN:

Sorry, but I have to agree with beamish's assessment of Truman. After he dropped the bomb on Imperial Japan he dropped the ball.

America could have nuked china's army into dust--something McCarthur wanted to do, in a rare moment of clarity.

China couldn't wage a full scale war against America today, much less back then. China is a joke and would collapse into regional warlordism overnight if America stopped buying it's worthless exports.