In my never ending battle with ignorance , I will delve into more spin on the left.
Zionism is the legitamate aspiation of the Jewish people to a homeland. Jews come from all races have 4000 years of historical identity , a language and a distinct religion and culture. Palestinians are Arabs who have 22 states allready and have 1300 years of colonialism, ethnocide and sometimes genocide against a range of indigenous people including Jews,Assyrians,Copts and others. If one doubts these people are Arab read the PLO charter.
Why are these other groups less worthy of states then the Arabs who allready have 22.
The " Palestinians" have a state called Jordan as 70% of the population call themselves Palestinians. The Assyrians and Copts as described earlier have lengthy histories ,languages and a distinct religion. Tibetians, Karens, Kurds ,Pashtuns, Baluchi, Comanche and any other Indian tribe, Fulani and several other African tribes,Basqes , Druze , Alawites all have one or more factor that the Palestinians lack. For the most part these other people have been peaceful.Yet we are supposed to reward fictional indigenous people with a state and ignore real ones.
The left points to Israel because they see it as an apostate state. The cheif source of arms was Czechosovakia in 1948. Stalin hoped that the Russian Jews would create a Cuba in the Middle East. The Israelis rejected such a model and after 1967 the left has made fictional indigenous people cause celebre. Prior to 1967 the cause was always listed as Pan Arabism and the key figure in this movement was Nasser. Prior to this the motto was "Push the Jooooos into the sea".This movement didn't play so well so the confict was repackages for the left wing cultist and brain dead types. A fake indigenous people with no history ,language or religion was created.
Israel the worlds only Jewish state is held to standards and rules that are not applied to the surrounding states. In fact given that it has been in a defacto war for fifty years the level of freedom is admirable. I posted a list of countries that is quite lengthy that have worse freedom ratings then Israel. This includes every Muslim ,Communist and African state. The leftist critics howled about European standards being applied solely to Israel.Yet five minutes later the complaint was that Bush and people like me want to inpose these standards on the Muslim world. If this seem illogical ask a leftist and play the jeapordy theeme music.
There is a move to divest and boycott Israel among this left wing fringe. This fringe has zero to say about Communist China,Vietnam,Cuba and Zimababwe. All of these countries abuse human rights far worse then Israel. In fact Communism is directly responsible for the deaths of 100,000,000. If this number seems high it is taken from the Black Book of Communism. Yet we find appologists and accolytes of this cult of death teaching at our Universities. This seems like hypocrisy in that the worst criyics of Zionism would be hard pressed to come up with 2% of that number. Even if they used new math like the body counts at Jenin they could not get close. Zionists are being prevented from teaching and Communists who hide thier affiliations with terms like green and progressive are teaching. This is logic turned on its head.Whatever happened to the leftist cries about free speech in accademia. That right is reserved only for Communists,Anarchists and other leftists.
This is also absurd in that every Arab and Muslim nation has a worse record on human
rights then Israel. Therefore if the logic is extended all those countries and accademics from those nations should be boycotted as well. Yet this logic is not extended and Israel the worlds only Jewish state is held to standards no other country is held to.This is a perfect illustration of hypocrisy , lies and bigotry on the left.
In fact the left is guilty of hypocrisy on AA . The student body needed to have a certain mixture of ethnicities to ensure diversity. The fact is that leftists of all
stripes are vasty employed in disproportionate numbers. Repeated studies have fround that fringe parties outnumber Republicans. This imbalance is termed advers impact
and its causes should be investigated. This principle is used by the left on private employers and it is time they looked in the mirror.
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what is zionism? i want to comment on your post but i can't really without understanding what its about. i have heard it used for many times but never truly understood what it mean.
Main Entry: Zi·on·ism
Pronunciation: 'zI-&-"ni-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1896
: an international movement orig. for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel
- Zi·on·ist /-nist/ adjective or noun
- Zi·on·is·tic /"zI-&-'nis-tik/ adjective
Thank you Mr Beamish
Zionism is the aspiration of the Jewish people to self determination. The Palestinians are Arabs and a simple look at the PLO charter says as much . There are 22 Arab states allready .
It should be noted that prior to Egypt and Syria's creation of the PLO, there was no group in existence that identified itself as "Palestinian" - those that call themselves such are Arabs descended from migrant workers who, who primarily came to the Palestine Mandate from pre-existing Arab nations to take advantage of economic opportunities created by Jews in in the Zionist movement. The "Palestinians" that left Israel left in the wake of an invasion by 5 Arab nations in 1948 as refugees under the misguided promise that they could return once the Jews were driven out, which has always been the goal of anti-Zionists. Zionism, simply put, is the belief that Israel has a right to exist as a nation and that Jews have a right to form a nation in the land taken from their culture millenia ago.
And after the experiences Jews had in the Holocaust as well as the pogroms to drive Jews out of places from Morocco to Russia, they have no where else to go. So why not home, to Israel?
sorry for the typos. It's hard to type and much uber-capitalist McDonald's fries at the same time.
Beamish I am the last person to complain about typos.
The problem I have with the left is illogic.They like to talk about indigenous people in the context of the West.Yet the second one discusses Jews , Christians and others predating the Arab invasions they scream bigotry, This isn't bigotry its historical fact.
I can not help laughing at the response of the Recidivist to the list of 100 nations with worse freedom ratings than Israel. How dare you.......... The left is cracking up seriously. Jason straightened him out fast.
Try having a conversation with a Turkish nationalist on the subject of treatment of Kurds or even the history of de-Christianization in Asia Minor after the Ottomans completed their invasive jihad against Constantinople and the Byzantine Empire. Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamon, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea, the seven cities in Asia mentioned in the Bible's Book of Revelation which housed the early 1st Century Christian churches, are all cities stolen from Christianity by Muslim invasions that remain so to this day in modern Turkey.
But Islam is a "religion of peace" and jihad is "defensive warfare."
My ass.
Beamish
I have had those conversations and I am looking for sources on the Kurds.Apparently Syria does require a special ID card for Kurds. There goes the Recivists claim that Israels ID card sytem is unique.
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