Have you ever sat watching a sporting event and the person next to you just can't accept the fact that their team has lost. They take a moment in the game and a real or imagine bad call or bad luck and create a whole theory on top of it. This is how conpiracy cranks rationalize their perverse world views.
Text book case of this insanity is John " Demented " Brown and Weasie. The entire rational world knows exactly what happened on 9-11. Crazed Muslim nuts smack passenger airlines loaded with fuel into office buildings. Yet rather then admit that the victims du jour Muslims orchestrated another attrocity they concoct an elaborate fantasies on irrelevant facts. Of course the United States and or Israel and dem Joooooos were the real masterminds. The selection of who the writers select as the organizers of their conspiracies speaks vollumes about their actual prejudices.
Our own Marxist Mallard took two days to name the actual perpetrators of 9-11. He is concerned that Americans might over react. In fact as published before there are relatively few hate crimes commited against muslims . A look at the numbers shows that Muslims are probably more likely to perpetrate a hate crime then to be the victim of one.
The problem was the media did a lousy job after 9-11. You did not see pictures of people slamming into concrette but you did see a plethora of Abu Gharib photos. There was the constant message that the 9-11 attacks do not represent Muslims and Islam is a religion of Peace. No Islam is the religion of submission and the only peace in it is rest in peace if you do not submit. This does not mean or imply every Muslim is a blood thirsty homicidal maniac but the PC version is just as false.
The truth is that when we are dealing with Marxists we are dealing with mental defectives. John Brown talks about Uncle Sam's plantation but ignores a series of plantations created by Commies known as gulags . Nor is his idiotic world view rational when he speaks with people like Felis who lived under Communism.
Conspiracy cranks are mental health defectives and thus we have John Brown claiming AlCIAda killed Daniel Pearl. We have stolen election myths and it seems that many on the far left have had a break with reality.
Mr Beamish in 08, Ducky to star with Bugs in a new cartoon Whats up Comissar, 167 still with no readers and Socrasleaze still ranting in cyberspace.
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Reality has a way of catching up, even if one ignores it!
Is beaker on the pipe?
He claims that we saw no images of people slamming into concrete or planes crashing into the WTC.
But photos from Abu Gharib.
PUH-LEEZE.
The fact of the matter is that facists like beaker only want their neo-con zionist viewpoints reported in the American media and any factual reporting detainee torture at Abu Gharib or the lies about WMDs should be suppressed.
Beaker- Yep, reality has an unfortunate habit of sneaking up on you and biting you right on the fanny, hard, several times! I prefer to keep my eye on it! Less painful when you can jump at the right time.
tmw
I want to decode the anti semitic statement of Uptown Steve. I guess Steve thinks that the definition of Neocon means Jewish Republican . The term does not remotely describe a life long anti Communist Republican.
As far as WMD's every intelligence service in the world including the French had the same estimate.
Uptown is also the same genius that thinks that Blacks have no problem with illegal aliens. Yesterdays Yahoo reported the story from LA.
The beak is right. they all had it wrong. Well, maybe not so wrong. It's too soon to tell, but there is evidence cropping that there were WMD there.
Deny it as stubbornly as you want: it happened. they succommed to something called "groupthink." Like the far left makes a virtue of.
Ducky it took you two days on FPM to name who blew up the WTC. Sorry Duck but the Sons of Allah have a habit of these attrocities. Just as your own kind have a definitive record of death and devastation and failure.
Uptown the second plane smacking into the WTC was pulled after the second day. The MSM did not run footage of people hitting concrette. However they did run Abu Gharib for weeks.
However facts are not relevant to Afrocenterists.
If there was any truth to the allegations that many have made about Bush and 911, why hasn't the Democratic Party charged the administration with a coverup?
Don't you think Nancy Pelosi would take advantage of any possible Bush complicity?
In an operation of this size too many people would have had to have known about any conspiracy for it to remain a secret.
that's why i advocate golfing - when you get mad, just wrap your least favorite club around a tree. oh, and have another beer.
How about the conspiracy theory about building #7 at the WTC. JB asked me a question about it on my interview. I guess the levees in NO were blown up by the FBI on Bush's orders too right?
beak
Maybe others had the same estimate of WMD's in Iraq but the US and England were the only ones who invaded.
And so what if some blacks in LA are anti-immigrant.
That does not mean that their sentiments are shared by blacks nationwide.
What the heck are you saying man?
When I was in Miami earlier this month, some Jewish dude was in the lobby of the SunTrust building ranting that the Mexicans "can take their Cinco de Mayo and stick up their asses".
Does that mean that "Jews" in general have a problem with immigrants???
Duh.
And how can you object to the term "neo-con" when you yourself stated that the Jews who disagree with you are "commies and traitors".
You are a total buffoon.
Uptown you are an illinformed moron and Chomsky does call himself a anarchist. Michael Lerner's past is well known. Norman Finklestein and Joel Kovel are former Communists who call themselves Green.
In reality you are an anti semitic halfwit. You want to be a black nationalist but you do not have the IQ. Maybe you need to spend time in the real Uptown listening to the genuine concern of HS dropout and laborers. This is not novel information either.
Well I guess the Spanish, Australians and Nepalese that were with my group might take exception to being left out of the group of invaders.
My friend Cate made a post that I think is very good regarding the 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Ducky
Uptown Steve's history of blatant anti semitism was well established before he got posted here. Calling people JEWS who disagree with him is certainly anti semitic.
Your own behaviors even noticed by AOW are anti semitic as well. You have some odd theories about me trying to hide the Ukranian family that was caused by your fellow Communists and my family survived.
There is your penchant for calling people like myself Likudnicks.
Speaking about bigotry where are those racist terms for Condi Rice that you bandy about. Are you going to hide behind Harry Belacommie again ?
Another troll aborted sorry this blog has plenty of dissent. Uptown nor Ducky has been censored. I can tell by the site meter who they are.
However, I reserve the right to abort unidentified trolls. Vacum cleaner.
Wrzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Another troll in the tank.
beaker, you moron.
"HS dropouts and laborers" do not equate with "black"!!!
I can definitely see how an American laborer OF ANY hue would be concerned with undocumented immigrants performing jobs they previously held for lower pay.
Have you checked out situation in Central North Carolina on the fruit and vegtable farms.
Seems that white laborers there are going ballistic over the influx of immigrants into agriculture business where whites had done most of the labor for the last century.
Hey beak,
Do you think Condi Rice is attractive or is she too "black" looking?
Another abortion sigh.
beak
You can't bleat about racism or anti-semitism anymore with any credibility.
Your remarks the other night about "the more white blacks have in them the better they look" revealed you to be the bottom dwelling racist I always knew you were.
And I'll bet a limb you probably look like a cross between Woody Allen and Joe Klein.
An upright walking rodent.
And has the balls to call someone ugly.
Of course the most outrageous, idiotic conspiracy theory is Toady's & pResident BringItOn's obsession for blaming 911 on evil Muslim alCIAda Goblins.
He makes these silly claims despite the fact that Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane, that many of the evil Muslim alCIAda Goblins were trained by Uncle Sam's little GI Joes and some other patsys conveniently blamed for the event were alive after 911.
I suppose that the evil Muslim alCIAda Goblins not only had the power to make Uncle Sam's air force stand down, but they also had the power to defy the laws of physics and return from the dead, too.
Those are some damn skippy evil Muslim alCIAda Goblins. Perhaps you're right to be afraid of your shadow if these sorts of people are looming all around.
Basically, we're back to the very simple question of why Toady and his ilk believe - without any proof shown whatsoever - that BringItOn, MafiaDon, Sambo Rice and the gang aren't lying about 911 in teh same way that they lie about everything else.
Just silly, immature, servile obedience to liars. That's all you've got, Toady.
Bush's silly little automaton.
Crusader,
It's funny that you think the Dems would blow the whistle. It shows how delusional you are and just how far up the ass of the system your head is planted.
Uptown
Condi is not my style but political figures should not be selected on the basis of looks. She is where she is because of her brains and political acumen.
Now more stupidity from Uptown. Being a HS dropout or laborer is not associated with being black. However this is a matter I have discussed with people at numerous staffing agencies and is a serious problem. You can live like an Ostritch if you choose . There is a genuine problem and the Civil rights industry has not adressed it at all.
Sambo Rice is a modern-day Sally Hemings.
Who do you think killed Daniel Pearl, Toady?
beaker
You don't know JACK about what the Civil Rights "industry" addresses.
Being the silly racist that you are you just look for any reason to discredit black people who speak out on issues of race.
There are hundreds of organizations and alliances, both local and national, devoted to neighborhood economic empowerment, quelling street violence, college financial assistance, drug recovery program, prisoner rehabilitation and dozens of other causes.
YOU just don't know about them because the good deeds and quiet work done by Civil Rights organizations are not reported on by the rightwing a$$wipe rags you patronize.
Uptown lets roll this back those are not my comment but the sentiments of those in fashion and marketing communities. Black women who are mostly white like Berry and Mariah Carey are readily marketed and the Williams sisters are not. In fact the Williams sisters father has been quite vocal about this. Moreover Spike Lee even adresses the skin tone issue in college.
There are many attractive African women like Kidst whose post is below. Kidst is from Eithiopia and is known for her style and artistic flair.
Unlike the local university the Fashion and Marketing departments invest huge amounts of $$$$$ and have no time to be PC there is just too much money at stake. It isn't skin color alone because Indian Women are noted for their beauty and have won quite a few pagents.
Okay Uptown
But prisoners and drug addicts do not mean blacks. Thus by your own standards your statement was racist.
The Civil rights industry has forgotten this one. There is no reason that all hispanic factories
should be accepted anymore then all white workplaces.
beaker
Condi Rice is where she is because she was one of the few black academics of her age to sell her soul to the rightwing.
She had no diplomatic experience.
She was a University provost.
If this was a liberal administration which appointed her, you hypocritical righties would be screaming "unqualified black" and "Affirmative Action"!!
But let a black call themselves a Republican and suddenly white righties want to annoint them the most qualified, deserving talentedd beings on the planet.
It's freakin ridiculous.
John Brown
Do not lecture anyone about racism. Your posts are filled with racial bile.
You are back on the Muslim Goblins bit. This is part of the Beaker of the Rings. Where is Beamish Baggins and Sam Longrange ? Jason Pappas plays the Liberterian Wizard ?
Muslim religious goons killed Daniel Pearl . This is not a secret
but you never were based in reality.
beaker,
The Williams Sisters make MILLIONS in endorsements.
I've seen them on magazine covers and in commericials.
It's obvious you're just trying to convince yourself.
Pathetic.
Same can be said for Colin Cancer Powell. For covering up My Lai and covering up Iran Contra, he was annointed with the JCoS and Secretary of State.
Just like a good House Slave.
I'm on the EVIL alCIAda MUSLIM GOBLINS again because you continue to invoke this fantasy rather than looking at the material reality. No EVIL alCIAda MUSLIM GOBLINS could have made the air force stand down.
No EVIL alCIAda MUSLIM GOBLINS could plant explosives in Building 7 and "pull it." That expression, incidentally, is what the Building's owner ordered the NYFD to do on 911 according to an interview he gave.
Now Uptown sees race in the hiring of Condi Rice. Rice like any other American is more then capable of forming her own opinions. She has done a wonderful job in the State Department and as National Security advisor.
"Pull it", says the owner of Building 7.
Good job on Iraq, Condi. Nice Head Coffins. A real Mission Accomplished!
Brown you are incoherent and need to stop playing Dungeons and Dragons and taking acid hits before posting.
Uptown
The father of the Williams sisters has been on record complaining. They make a fraction of what Kournikova and Sharpova earn. Life isn't fair and they are not viewed as attractive or feminine.
Brown
As a deviant you have been known to say pull it yourself.
There was the constant message that the 9-11 attacks do not represent Muslims and Islam is a religion of Peace.
I remember President Bush's poll numbers briefly pulled out of a nosedive and begin climbing the first time he dropped this nonsense. Then he wishy-washied back to the "Islam bakes cookies when we come around" message when the Cartoonifada hit Europe.
Steve..In Miami Calle Ocho is the largest Hispanic celebration..not cinco de mayo
This is what I mean Beak by 'heaving your blog hijacked'.
LOL
Beak,
The entire rational world knows exactly what happened on 9-11. Crazed Muslim nuts smack passenger airlines loaded with fuel into office buildings. Yet rather then admit that the victims du jour Muslims orchestrated another attrocity they concoct an elaborate fantasies on irrelevant facts.
Maybe some are living in a parallel universe? What do these same parallelists say happened at Pearl Harbor? Or is that particular event one that all can agree upon because no whitewash of Islam is required?
Blah, blah, blah.
Lots of people talking shit.
Yet nobody seems interested in explaining why the laws of physics ceased to apply to Building 7.
Maybe Jesus that brought the building down? That's about as plausible as blaming the collapse of Building 7 on EVIL MUSLIM alCIAda GOBLINS.
Hey Kyle,
Why did Building 7 collapse?
Surely LoBrow isn't suggesting that he understands the laws of physics.
I mean, look at him. Three friggin' buildings collapse due to unattended fires on their upper floors, and he's baffled.
Please God, please. Stop the monotony. Whip up a miracle of a leftist smarter than a potato peel. Please!
Beamish,
Whip up a miracle of a leftist smarter than a potato peel.
Hehehe.
I'm serious, AOW. Have you ever heard a potato peel say such stupid things as LoBrow?
Hey Censorman,
How many steel structures in the history of... well, in the history of steel have collapsed due to fire?
Here's a hint: your IQ
Even the fascist pigs at FEMA say that fire didn't bring down Building 7.
Perhaps you should censor yourself a bit more often, Censorman.
AoW is the teacher who holds history in contempt and has other people censor his pro-fascist blog.
So I'm not exactly crying.
Shit stain John wouldn't know a law of physics if one of his bastard brothers in revolution smacked him upside the head with a copy of Marx's screed for dimwits!
IT CAME DOWN BECAUSE THE UPPER FLOORS COLLAPSED ON THE FLOORS BELOW!
Shit stain, you are a glowing clump of ignorance in a mile high pile of Marxist road apples! And I find you stupid. Black hole stupid, so stupid that your stupidity has collapsed in on itself into a clump of stupid neutronium, so dense, not even a particle of rationality can escape. You are stupid cubed to the 10th power. So stupid you suck the IQ from rocks. Even smooth brained idiots run from you and scream; "Here comes stupid!" So stupid that your stupidity has coalesced into a primordial clump of stupidity that has dropped out of this space time continuum into a stupid parallel universe.
I can't go on, I had an epiphany of shit stains stupidity.
How many steel structures in the history of... well, in the history of steel have collapsed due to fire?
All of them that burned hot enough to give the steel supports the tensil strength of chewing gum.
Warren,
The leftists sure seem restless and extra special stupid this Memorial Day weekend. Is Burger King not letting LoBrow off work to go harass veterans?
WOW! I've missed the party over here for sure.
JB: Why does it matter how Bldg #7 collapsed?
What's the conspiracy you want to sell?
Uptown Steve: I'll second Beaker's remark that the more white blacks have in them the better they look. Want proof? How about Halle Barry for starters?
Warren: I believe that bldg #7 fell for that very same reason too. How in the hell would it fall otherwise?
Oh I forgot--the FBI planted bombs on it, just like they did on the New Orleans levees!
BTW the weather service is predicting another CAT 4-5 hurricane to pound NO again this year. Is that a conspiracy too?
Nova is a good source for the physics of metal
Oh my word! Take the crew to see a movie and what happens! Warren- Your screed was pure poetry, inspired I say, inspired! Mr. Pres-elect, your soundbites are better than the Clintonistas best writers could aspire too!
Bwaahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I went to the movies for entertainment? hehehehe, could of stayed home and saved the money!
Sorry I missed it!
tmw
Florian,
Like Beamish said only in more words.
Steel doesn't have to reach anywhere near melting point to soft and bend or collapse.
One floor collapses and the entire mass of the floors above it accelerate downward at 32fps squared. Then the next floor collapses adding its mass to the acceleration and so on, similar to a snowball effect.
A building can hardly be "crash" tested.
Yea Cuz, the morons are out in force.
Memorial day weekend. They can't stand that real heroes and patriots have a day to be praised for their sacrifice.
Warren
Minor detail about WTC # 7 not widely known. An explosion is not like watching a Hollywood action film. It sends out a shock wave that knocked out windows for six hundred feet. WTC Seven was a glass box structure and closer to the adjacent buildings. No firefighting took place there.
However this is old news that I took care of with Weasie. Brown likes to repeat himself.
To John Brown, FYI...
You seem to suffer from a lack of information concerning the physics of fire and accelerants. Just in case you're wondering, accelerants are normally gasoline, JP5(jet fuel&kerosine),alcohol,etc..
When the planes crashed into WTC1&2 they were loaded with fuel. The incredible heat created by accelerants burning loads of paper and plastics over the course of an hour or so was enough to weaken the structural "I" beams to the point where the thousands of tons of supported structure above it collapsed.
You'll have to humor me and accept as a given that the rest of this house of cards was doomed when the top of the building collapsed.
You can accept the explanations given by the laws of nature and the phsical universe...OR...
You can know the real truth!
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the Israelis and Condi Rice planted dynomite in the towers and conspired with Osama to destroy the towers and the Democrat party. So long to koombaya as you know it.
So there it is. Two theories, you choose.
Mental health awaits you.
Morgan
Well there you have it JB. Professor Jingo has dismissed class, and your assignment is to determine how #7 collapsed.
BTW Morgan, what the hell is up with these Navy guys down at Mayport? Did you hear about the ones falsifying marriage documents with these sleazy eastern euro girls?
Believe it or not Flo, I haven't heard about this. Since I live in Ponte Vedra, Mayport is only 13 miles from my house. It's been 14 yrs. since I was stationed there.
Here's the deal with the Euro-chocha in my experience. They hook up with a soldier, airman or squid and he gets a large cash payment to marry her. She becomes a citizen and her fate is determined by her "benefactor" who provided the cash bribe at that point. They don't all end up turning tricks by night and doing nails by day, believe it or not.
Morgan
Warren,
Your rant @ 8:23:33 is a classic!
Florian and TMW,
Yes, quite a party going on over here.
looks like i missed the neuter/tutor session...
To Warren; Your 8:23 rant is side splitting hilarious! I'm just now getting my breath back. You have NO IDEA how many times I've wanted to say something just like that to a denizen of the left.
Well said sir!
Morgan
Morgan,
Sorry to say, but the jet fuel would have evaporated in a few minutes.
The fact of the matter is that a steel structure has never collapsed due to fire.
Ever.
All three buildings fell straight to the ground because they were controlled demolitions.
Sambo Warren the Injun Killer can talk around that basic fact all he wants. His silly little "pancake theory" is so absurd as to not even merit comment, and if that's all he's got - well, then we know who's the real conspiracy theorist.
Why does it matter, Florian?
Because without those buildings falling, we'd have no fake "War on Terror." We'd have no war on Afghanistan. We'd have no Head Coffins in Iraq (other than those dying because of the sanctions).
Cheney's attack on the towers turned public opinion on Sam's Plantation towards a Jihad against evil alCIAda Muslim Goblins. In the interest of geopolitics, Uncle Sam just accidentally needed to attack Afghanistan and Iraq.
Ironic how that all worked out for them. All that tripped them up was the valliant resistance of the heroic Iraqi people.
jobro- There is always a first time, besides do you know every detail of every fire in the world? Hmmmm? I wouldn't be so fast to po-poo a new concept, if I were you. But I'm not you, so I guess I can stretch my mind enough to consider new ideas!
Good morning and G*D bless!
tmw
John
You are now an official dimwit. Lets see planes smack into glass box structures loaded with fuel. A huge fireball is seen but nothing inside the building catches fire. Have you ever heard of a shockwave.
Windows were shattered for blocksand debris was found in all four directions WTC 7 was dead north of the North Tower and closer to the impact zone. It was also the nearest glass box structure.
Try reading Fruit Loop boxes
Sorry to say, but the jet fuel would have evaporated in a few minutes.
And yet, fires burned inside and underneath the rubble of the towers for weeks, in one of reality's predictable disagreements with leftists.
The fact of the matter is that a steel structure has never collapsed due to fire.
And yet, reality readily provides us with 3 examples at the WTC alone.
Ever.
Then there's the Hindenburg blimp fire in 1934, if we wish to count earlier examples of how reality is rather hostile to leftist gibberish.
All three buildings fell straight to the ground because they were controlled demolitions.
Absurd.
LoBrow, you're trying too hard. All you have to do is claim to be a leftist and we'll instinctively know that you're incapable of coherent, rational thought and have an distinct aversion towards basing an statements upon reality.
We need no further convincing.
Dear John Brown,
You're serious aren't you? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt before, thinking you were just kidding. In that case you'll need to read Warren's hilarious rant at 8:23!
Also you need to know a few facts. These are indisputable facts of the physical universe we inhabit. Since you have a fondness for conspiracies, let's blame them on the Creator.
You were wrong about the jet fuel. It's practically kerosene. Although it did cause a frightful explosion upon impact, it's not NEARLY as explosive as gasoline or propane. Therefore tons of it would have dispersed and started the cauldron that we witnessed. It would NOT have evaporated in a few minutes, it's not nearly that combustable! You can practically put a cigarette out in it. Let's just accept that a 500 MPH collision with a steel structure helped provide a "spark."
The incredible heat of the fire on multiple floors weakened the "I" beam supports to the point where the huge weight above came crashing down. Again you can call this chain of events a "conspiracy from the creator" if it makes you feel better.
The original John Brown had a good idea-freeing slaves-but he acted like a terrorist in achieving his ends. Slavery can also be a mental condition. People who give themselves over to insane conspiracy theories are also slaves of a sort. This form of slavery is far more shameful than the physical slavery of chains and unpaid labor. When you surrender to these insane theories you go willingly, without a fight. I hope you find your way.
How sad.
Morgan
jobro- Ever heard of the NorthRidge earthquake? A lot of structures "PANCAKED", ever heard that term before? HM? I believe you are terminally ignorant, or completely unable to apply physics from one situation to the next!
tmw
Mr Beamish
I fell out of my chair laughing at your remark. The fires smoldered for weeks under the rubble. Brown has been reading far left sites and has no familiarity with the actual sceene.
Jingoist is a friend an I would like to take the opportunity to welcome him to the blog.
The original John Brown had a noble goal but was certified insane. Our John Brown is certainly insane but keeps coming back for more abuse.
I love how he needs to come here for eyeballs. He needs Florian to get ratings and spoofs my interview segment. I am glad Florian helped get eyeballs on his site. However he will not get a similar visit from me. He can toil in obscurity and mediocrity.
Thanks Beak. I just loved your conspiracy article! It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Morgan
There was the constant message that the 9-11 attacks do not represent Muslims and Islam is a religion of Peace.
And instead of broadcasting that truth, they wasted time broadcasting "their" truth, those ridiculous pictures from Abu Graib to undermine everyone's support of the war. I really don't get the media. But I'm reading Bernie Goldberg's book, Bias.... frightening stuff about how we have all been manipulated by the media.
It's not really a conspiracy, but when God decided to expand the definition of reality to include things other than Himself, He made the Universe in such a way that those within it can linearly percieve order and causation, and make quantative comparisons.
It is because of this that stupidity, one of the unifying traits of all leftists, is noticed.
God created stupidity. Man parcelled stupidity into an ideology and called it leftism.
Senor Beamish I love your final line.
"G-d created stupidity. Man parcelled stupidity into an ideology and called it leftism."
I'm gonna write it down and put it inside of my work trucks. Thanks!
Morgan
*wipes tear*
Warren, Mr. Beamish, you have quite a gift!
yup, brooke - me too!
oops - i mean about the tears! nobody does it like beamish or comes even close. brilliant.
I dub thee Sir Beamish.
elbro's knightin' everybody!
I need something to do besides harass people...not that I'm naming any names (nanc)
BTW nanc it's only out of respect for Beak that I WILL NOT carry on this conversation with you here.
Ooohh! Secrets! Whazzup yo? Looking forward to the hot seat EB! I'm sure Nanc and I can come up with some questions! Hey, Nanc, what can we snitch on EB?
This will be fun!
tmw
not to worry - it's all in writing...
#1
The WTC used I beam uprights and tie beams but the joists, (floor supports) were lattice work beams known as bar joists (click on link). Almost all the support beams were in the outer walls and a smallish central section which contained the stairwells. (I believe the elevator shafts were inside this area also).
Bar joists are used in large open areas or in areas, roofs and where load bearing walls are unwanted. They provide much greater load capacity than an I beam of the same weight. The advantage is that they allow you more open floor space or the ability to build different sized offices or rooms in the same amout of space without allowing for load bearing walls.
As you can see, in the link, each bar joist is fastened at a single anchor point on either end. That is their weakest point.
If the beam sags the leverage of the joist will pull the anchor loose. First one, then as the load on the adjacent beams increase, they buckle and fail also.
Without the heat. The joists on either side would probably stand the strain.
#2
Liquid jet fuel does not burn. The vapors off of it burn. You can put out a cigarette in jet fuel, I've did it, (you can also put out a cigarette in gasoline).It must be atomized or heated to the point where the fumes are released quicker than they burn. Then all it takes is a spark.
From the force of impact, the jet was fragmented and the fuel tanks ruptured. Walls disintegrated and atomized Jet fuel was sprayed across the entire floor. The entire contents of the fuel load would have ignited and the floor must have been a virtual hell!
So shit stain, How many high rise buildings with a similar construction have been rammed with a jet liner? For that matter, how many buildings have had a jet airliner rammed into them and not erupted in flames?
A C-130 cargo plane, (turbo jet) crashed into a Drury Inn, (right hear where I live), several years ago. The thing burned and collapsed to the ground, only 3 or 4 people got out alive.
The problem with these Marxist twits is that they don't know anything, its too hard for them to learn! So they just make crap up that suits their warped view of the world.
The buildings fell in on themselves because of their construction. The top of the towers would have to have been about a hundred feet off vertical before they went over sideways. Any force that sent them over sideways would have leveled the biggest portion of NYC.
Where did you get your engineering degree, the mental hospital?
warren's been very busy.
Nice job, Warren! Unfortunately jobro is an illustration of that old adage, don't confuse me with the facts, I've already made up my mind! There are none so blind as those who WILL not see. I would guess he took all "soft" sciences! Hard science tends to smack you with facts.
tmw
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