tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post114865524821322518..comments2024-02-20T21:48:16.978-05:00Comments on The Beak Speaks: Conspiracy Theories and mental health defects.beakerkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148812154990757152006-05-28T05:29:00.000-05:002006-05-28T05:29:00.000-05:00Nice job, Warren! Unfortunately jobro is an illus...Nice job, Warren! Unfortunately jobro is an illustration of that old adage, don't confuse me with the facts, I've already made up my mind! There are none so blind as those who WILL not see. I would guess he took all "soft" sciences! Hard science tends to smack you with facts. <BR/><BR/>tmwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148793071625108372006-05-28T00:11:00.000-05:002006-05-28T00:11:00.000-05:00warren's been very busy.warren's been very busy.nanchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809768490674110768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148786822560621002006-05-27T22:27:00.000-05:002006-05-27T22:27:00.000-05:00#1The WTC used I beam uprights and tie beams but t...#1<BR/><BR/>The WTC used I beam uprights and tie beams but the joists, (floor supports) were lattice work beams known as <A HREF="http://host.jwcinc.net/610407/Bar%20Joists.jpg" REL="nofollow">bar joists</A> (click on link). Almost all the support beams were in the outer walls and a smallish central section which contained the stairwells. (I believe the elevator shafts were inside this area also).<BR/><BR/>Bar joists are used in large open areas or in areas, roofs and where load bearing walls are unwanted. They provide much greater load capacity than an I beam of the same weight. The advantage is that they allow you more open floor space or the ability to build different sized offices or rooms in the same amout of space without allowing for load bearing walls.<BR/><BR/>As you can see, in the link, each bar joist is fastened at a single anchor point on either end. That is their weakest point.<BR/><BR/>If the beam sags the leverage of the joist will pull the anchor loose. First one, then as the load on the adjacent beams increase, they buckle and fail also.<BR/><BR/>Without the heat. The joists on either side would probably stand the strain.<BR/><BR/>#2<BR/><BR/>Liquid jet fuel does not burn. The vapors off of it burn. You can put out a cigarette in jet fuel, I've did it, (you can also put out a cigarette in gasoline).It must be atomized or heated to the point where the fumes are released quicker than they burn. Then all it takes is a spark.<BR/><BR/>From the force of impact, the jet was fragmented and the fuel tanks ruptured. Walls disintegrated and atomized Jet fuel was sprayed across the entire floor. The entire contents of the fuel load would have ignited and the floor must have been a virtual hell!<BR/><BR/>So shit stain, How many high rise buildings with a similar construction have been rammed with a jet liner? For that matter, how many buildings have had a jet airliner rammed into them and not erupted in flames?<BR/><BR/>A C-130 cargo plane, (turbo jet) crashed into a Drury Inn, (right hear where I live), several years ago. The thing burned and collapsed to the ground, only 3 or 4 people got out alive.<BR/><BR/>The problem with these Marxist twits is that they don't know anything, its too hard for them to learn! So they just make crap up that suits their warped view of the world.<BR/><BR/>The buildings fell in on themselves because of their construction. The top of the towers would have to have been about a hundred feet off vertical before they went over sideways. Any force that sent them over sideways would have leveled the biggest portion of NYC.<BR/><BR/>Where did you get your engineering degree, the mental hospital?Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17720528359843578475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148773306045665992006-05-27T18:41:00.000-05:002006-05-27T18:41:00.000-05:00not to worry - it's all in writing...not to worry - it's all in writing...nanchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809768490674110768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148768493141717942006-05-27T17:21:00.000-05:002006-05-27T17:21:00.000-05:00Ooohh! Secrets! Whazzup yo? Looking forward to th...Ooohh! Secrets! Whazzup yo? Looking forward to the hot seat EB! I'm sure Nanc and I can come up with some questions! Hey, Nanc, what can we snitch on EB?<BR/>This will be fun!<BR/><BR/>tmwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148766706665222442006-05-27T16:51:00.000-05:002006-05-27T16:51:00.000-05:00BTW nanc it's only out of respect for Beak that I ...BTW nanc it's only out of respect for Beak that I WILL NOT carry on this conversation with you here.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148766584444339922006-05-27T16:49:00.000-05:002006-05-27T16:49:00.000-05:00I need something to do besides harass people...not...I need something to do besides harass people...not that I'm naming any names (nanc)elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148763703875340612006-05-27T16:01:00.000-05:002006-05-27T16:01:00.000-05:00elbro's knightin' everybody!elbro's knightin' everybody!nanchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809768490674110768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148756198826779592006-05-27T13:56:00.000-05:002006-05-27T13:56:00.000-05:00I dub thee Sir Beamish.I dub thee Sir Beamish.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148754924690570962006-05-27T13:35:00.000-05:002006-05-27T13:35:00.000-05:00oops - i mean about the tears! nobody does it lik...oops - i mean about the tears! nobody does it like beamish or comes even close. brilliant.nanchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809768490674110768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148754873808893312006-05-27T13:34:00.000-05:002006-05-27T13:34:00.000-05:00yup, brooke - me too!yup, brooke - me too!nanchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08809768490674110768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148752776461861832006-05-27T12:59:00.000-05:002006-05-27T12:59:00.000-05:00*wipes tear*Warren, Mr. Beamish, you have quite a ...*wipes tear*<BR/><BR/>Warren, Mr. Beamish, you have quite a gift!Brookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03977090801334626461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148750418257418332006-05-27T12:20:00.000-05:002006-05-27T12:20:00.000-05:00Senor Beamish I love your final line."G-d created ...Senor Beamish I love your final line.<BR/><BR/>"G-d created stupidity. Man parcelled stupidity into an ideology and called it leftism."<BR/><BR/>I'm gonna write it down and put it inside of my work trucks. Thanks!<BR/><BR/><BR/>MorganJINGOISThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148749609037395992006-05-27T12:06:00.000-05:002006-05-27T12:06:00.000-05:00It's not really a conspiracy, but when God decided...It's not really a conspiracy, but when God decided to expand the definition of reality to include things other than Himself, He made the Universe in such a way that those within it can linearly percieve order and causation, and make quantative comparisons. <BR/><BR/>It is because of this that stupidity, one of the unifying traits of all leftists, is noticed. <BR/><BR/>God created stupidity. Man parcelled stupidity into an ideology and called it leftism.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148748966661105792006-05-27T11:56:00.000-05:002006-05-27T11:56:00.000-05:00There was the constant message that the 9-11 attac...<I>There was the constant message that the 9-11 attacks do not represent Muslims and Islam is a religion of Peace.</I><BR/><BR/>And instead of broadcasting that truth, they wasted time broadcasting "their" truth, those ridiculous pictures from Abu Graib to undermine everyone's support of the war. I really don't get the media. But I'm reading Bernie Goldberg's book, <I>Bias</I>.... frightening stuff about how we have all been manipulated by the media.Estherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08345207783869344757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148748675754548492006-05-27T11:51:00.000-05:002006-05-27T11:51:00.000-05:00Thanks Beak. I just loved your conspiracy article!...Thanks Beak. I just loved your conspiracy article! It's like shooting fish in a barrel.<BR/><BR/>MorganJINGOISThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148748082363229442006-05-27T11:41:00.000-05:002006-05-27T11:41:00.000-05:00Mr BeamishI fell out of my chair laughing at your ...Mr Beamish<BR/><BR/>I fell out of my chair laughing at your remark. The fires smoldered for weeks under the rubble. Brown has been reading far left sites and has no familiarity with the actual sceene. <BR/><BR/>Jingoist is a friend an I would like to take the opportunity to welcome him to the blog.<BR/><BR/>The original John Brown had a noble goal but was certified insane. Our John Brown is certainly insane but keeps coming back for more abuse.<BR/><BR/>I love how he needs to come here for eyeballs. He needs Florian to get ratings and spoofs my interview segment. I am glad Florian helped get eyeballs on his site. However he will not get a similar visit from me. He can toil in obscurity and mediocrity.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148746815775528302006-05-27T11:20:00.000-05:002006-05-27T11:20:00.000-05:00jobro- Ever heard of the NorthRidge earthquake? A ...jobro- Ever heard of the NorthRidge earthquake? A lot of structures "PANCAKED", ever heard that term before? HM? I believe you are terminally ignorant, or completely unable to apply physics from one situation to the next!<BR/><BR/>tmwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148746171590558062006-05-27T11:09:00.000-05:002006-05-27T11:09:00.000-05:00Dear John Brown,You're serious aren't you? I was g...Dear John Brown,<BR/><BR/>You're serious aren't you? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt before, thinking you were just kidding. In that case you'll need to read Warren's hilarious rant at 8:23!<BR/><BR/>Also you need to know a few facts. These are indisputable facts of the physical universe we inhabit. Since you have a fondness for conspiracies, let's blame them on the Creator.<BR/><BR/>You were wrong about the jet fuel. It's practically kerosene. Although it did cause a frightful explosion upon impact, it's not NEARLY as explosive as gasoline or propane. Therefore tons of it would have dispersed and started the cauldron that we witnessed. It would NOT have evaporated in a few minutes, it's not nearly that combustable! You can practically put a cigarette out in it. Let's just accept that a 500 MPH collision with a steel structure helped provide a "spark."<BR/><BR/>The incredible heat of the fire on multiple floors weakened the "I" beam supports to the point where the huge weight above came crashing down. Again you can call this chain of events a "conspiracy from the creator" if it makes you feel better.<BR/><BR/>The original John Brown had a good idea-freeing slaves-but he acted like a terrorist in achieving his ends. Slavery can also be a mental condition. People who give themselves over to insane conspiracy theories are also slaves of a sort. This form of slavery is far more shameful than the physical slavery of chains and unpaid labor. When you surrender to these insane theories you go willingly, without a fight. I hope you find your way.<BR/><BR/>How sad.<BR/><BR/><BR/>MorganJINGOISThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148745473564666072006-05-27T10:57:00.000-05:002006-05-27T10:57:00.000-05:00Sorry to say, but the jet fuel would have evaporat...<I>Sorry to say, but the jet fuel would have evaporated in a few minutes.</I><BR/><BR/>And yet, fires burned inside and underneath the rubble of the towers for weeks, in one of reality's predictable disagreements with leftists.<BR/><BR/><I>The fact of the matter is that a steel structure has never collapsed due to fire.</I><BR/><BR/>And yet, reality readily provides us with 3 examples at the WTC alone.<BR/><BR/><I>Ever.</I><BR/><BR/>Then there's the Hindenburg blimp fire in 1934, if we wish to count earlier examples of how reality is rather hostile to leftist gibberish. <BR/><BR/><I>All three buildings fell straight to the ground because they were controlled demolitions.</I><BR/><BR/>Absurd.<BR/><BR/>LoBrow, you're trying too hard. All you have to do is claim to be a leftist and we'll instinctively know that you're incapable of coherent, rational thought and have an distinct aversion towards basing an statements upon reality. <BR/><BR/>We need no further convincing.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148745336724625312006-05-27T10:55:00.000-05:002006-05-27T10:55:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148744397565036302006-05-27T10:39:00.000-05:002006-05-27T10:39:00.000-05:00JohnYou are now an official dimwit. Lets see plane...John<BR/><BR/>You are now an official dimwit. Lets see planes smack into glass box structures loaded with fuel. A huge fireball is seen but nothing inside the building catches fire. Have you ever heard of a shockwave.<BR/>Windows were shattered for blocksand debris was found in all four directions WTC 7 was dead north of the North Tower and closer to the impact zone. It was also the nearest glass box structure.<BR/><BR/>Try reading Fruit Loop boxesbeakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148742991550705092006-05-27T10:16:00.000-05:002006-05-27T10:16:00.000-05:00jobro- There is always a first time, besides do yo...jobro- There is always a first time, besides do you know every detail of every fire in the world? Hmmmm? I wouldn't be so fast to po-poo a new concept, if I were you. But I'm not you, so I guess I can stretch my mind enough to consider new ideas!<BR/><BR/>Good morning and G*D bless!<BR/>tmwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148742604263276232006-05-27T10:10:00.000-05:002006-05-27T10:10:00.000-05:00Why does it matter, Florian?Because without those ...Why does it matter, Florian?<BR/><BR/>Because without those buildings falling, we'd have no fake "War on Terror." We'd have no war on Afghanistan. We'd have no <B>Head Coffins</B> in Iraq (other than those dying because of the sanctions).<BR/><BR/>Cheney's attack on the towers turned public opinion on Sam's Plantation towards a <I>Jihad</I> against <B>evil alCIAda Muslim Goblins</B>. In the interest of geopolitics, Uncle Sam just accidentally needed to attack Afghanistan and Iraq.<BR/><BR/>Ironic how that all worked out for them. All that tripped them up was the valliant resistance of the heroic Iraqi people.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515280071887632569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-1148742432856432482006-05-27T10:07:00.000-05:002006-05-27T10:07:00.000-05:00Morgan, Sorry to say, but the jet fuel would have ...Morgan, <BR/><BR/>Sorry to say, but the jet fuel would have evaporated in a few minutes.<BR/><BR/>The fact of the matter is that a steel structure has never collapsed due to fire. <BR/><BR/>Ever.<BR/><BR/>All three buildings fell straight to the ground because they were controlled demolitions.<BR/><BR/>Sambo Warren the Injun Killer can talk around that basic fact all he wants. His silly little "pancake theory" is so absurd as to not even merit comment, and if that's all he's got - well, then we know who's the real conspiracy theorist.John Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01515280071887632569noreply@blogger.com