Sunday, March 14, 2010

Probably will get nailed with lightning bolts

I want to point out I am not surprised about Jihad Jane. Converts to a religion, change their faiths for many reason. Some like Stephen Schwartz were raised in families that had no faith. Others are troubled looking for all the answers from a pied piper.

When Stephen Schwartz practices his faith he does so as a man of arts, culture and firmly versed in our American Tradition. These converts like Jihad Jane and Richard Reid are troubled people and are using Islam as an answer for their failed lives and mental illness. Even the case of the Nigerian Bomber and Zazi show troubled people looking for answers.

Schwartz has written many articles on placing the wrong type of Imams in prison and the Army.
This may sound weird but the way we practice our faith is a reflection upon us. Junglemom, TMW and AOW are among many of the loving Christians who see a community type of Church serving for the sake of service. There are also the hateful political scammers who preach liberation theology or its racial corollaries like Pastor Wright. Much of the page one bashing of the Catholic Church scandals comes from political activists who are upset over this Pope's role in
eliminating the malady of Liberation Theology from his Church.

More important than the house of worship or lack of one is the lives we lead. There is no doubt Merlin Olsen and Rosey Grier were both men of faith who thought that violence never solved anything. Violence is to be used only to protect loved ones or to serve your country. In the case of Grier he probably did save Sirhan Sirhan's life. Luckily, for us because we as a society have been spared the never ending hateful conspiracy idiocy afterwards.

For many of us we ponder what it is to be a man or a woman. Yet in essence one never does know the real meaning until you are a parent or serve your community. Not everyone is cut out for these roles. Sadly, the mental health industry has become politicized and hurts as many people as it helps.

Maureen Dowd wrote a recent article where she expressed surprise that as a non Muslim she is not allowed into the holiest of places. The question is "where has she been and what has she been
reading for decades". This is common knowledge, yet one can see the criticism of these very policies from the pages of the Center for Islamic Pluralism.

Many of us see Islam as not being able to change. Yet Memri has translated a wide variety of articles critical of child brides. Perhaps twenty years ago this would have been unthinkable. The criticism comes not from fake Islamo Communist progressives, but from within Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Commies usually ignore these topics and lump it under cultural differences. I vividly recall a so called Socialist leader framing the topic of honor killing as the case of a Yezidi woman
who was killed for taking a Muslim husband. This sleight of hand trick with a problem that is almost entirely within the Muslim community is quite typical of Marxist duplicity. When asked about her knowledge of the Yezidi community it was nonexistent.

Much of our problem with Islam comes not from Muslims but from ourselves. It is entirely inapropriate to discriminate against people of any faith. However, when a coworker is justifying
suicide bombings this should have set off alarms. The Fort Hood shooter was aided by a system that encourages fear of being called a bigot. In the end the ultimate responsibility lies with the people who would not let him resign when it was obvious he was unfit for service. The educators
who allowed him to subvert class assignments into political diatribes unrelated to the topic need to also come under scrutiny. If a fundamentalist Christian went on an anti abortion tirade instead of their class assignment a predictable F would have been issued. While we should respect religion we should not fear common sense prudent judgment.

Much of our culture of fear is caused by the Marxist left. Sorry, but apologists for despotism and pointless death are the last persons who should be lecturing others about morality. The truth is while Schwartz and others work for a more positive world Communists are more apt to be rationalizing evil and fostering divisions. Communists are the enablers of terrorism and turn a blind eye to everything that they does not fit their agenda.

Schwartz as a man of arts and letters can talk at length about the humanities. He most likely would take a similar position to my own about reading the classics in the context of its time. I do remember reading the Merchants of Venice, Dickens and the Canterbury Tales in a Yeshiva. We joked with a Jewish teacher who was no Bolshevik about what seemed like being bombarded with the worst in English Lit. We were given a polite but serious discussion about history and lit
that was memorable. Sadly, when we hear calls to ban Mark Twain for the use of the N word it comes from the bug eyed far left. We seldom hear these same people make similar calls to ban Eugene O'Neil for the Emperor Jones which communist icon Paul Robeson uttering that same word multiple times.

13 comments:

CM said...

Jealousy!

Such a simple word, but thats what comes to mind with all the wrong in the World today.

Who was here first , who's Government is the best, who's color/genes are the dominant!

Within your own culture its the same, we all know this.

The more we all get Educated, the more devisive we become. No matter the color. White people think Backs are rude, boistrous, obnoxious just because of their facial expressions and color when they try to express themselves. Well....as a Brown person I see the same thing, because its posed that way in the media, but educating yourself to get passed the facial and loud expressions is when you see what they are really trying to express. The calming effects of Obama and Taylors' demeaner seems to have no effect on the really racists, nothing will help these people. So we must just go on...I for one person of Color do not mind being behind the Black to pave the way for ALL! Thats how I have come to view and accept the struggle.

Grandsons(13/14) were talking about the Roman Empire, swords and such, probaby cartoons and such, but I told them about a documentary I viewed late one night. The Romans it seems were the worst child pedophiles, mentoring young boys at their knees at an early age, molding them to be their sexual partners. Which led me reinterate the trust of telling an adult/older person if there was something not right with someones actions. They just looked at me with "Grandma!!!" Education hurts!

What I'm trying to say is, everyone is missing the point to just excepting other Cultures, at the same time be very careful! I think for America, its too late! Its NOT Obama' fault, it started a long, long time ago the Statue of Liberty, a beacon of light for the immigrants.

Some Cultures have tried to keep to themselves in order to preserve and yet have been labled being Stupid, ignorant, backwards, anti this or anti that!

I call that jealousy, for lack of a kinder word!

CM

Ducky's here said...

Junglemom, TMW and AOW are among many of the loving Christians who see a community type of Church serving for the sake of service.

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Yes, their love of Muslims and leftists is well known.

We all fall way short, Beak.

Now run along and spend some time with Yeagley before you lecture anyone.

beakerkin said...

Ducky

You think that a person hating Communists is a bad thing. I propose given their history there is good and logical reason to hate Commies.

As for Islam, I tend to disagree with your view. None of the above is against peaceful practice of religion in the USA. Moreover, many Muslims are tired of lunatics giving their religion a bad name.

Nobody cares is Abdul goes to a mosque. When Abdul starts telling me I have to allow him to have extra wives or blowing up civilians is an acceptable form of
conflict resolution then we have a
problem.

I am firmly convinced that without Commies stirring the pot and riling up Muslims by parroting the most outlandish victim stories we
would have had peace long ago. The truth is Commies need Muslims more than Muslims need Commies. Without
their numbers commies are irrelevant.

In the future Muslims will realize what a disaster the alliance with commies has created. This alliance
has exacerbated problems and propped up thug leftist regimes like Saddam and Assad. Khadafy after getting a bomb in his living room seems to be defanged.

Also where terrorism is prevalent just happens to be the places Marxist morons destabalized Yemen and Afghanistan.

Sooner or later Muslims will realize this alliance has hurt them
more than Al Queda.

CM said...

If I said Taylor, I meant Eric Holder...he and Obama both have that handsome nice looking brown/black skin and calm demeanor which should be acceptable to the whiteist racist....but it isn't enough. No matter how pretty or nice they are or how their policies would seem to include all people! They are one drop Black.

mr. badeagle says he is tired of seeing the black face pushed/shoved in our faces 24-7 on every commercial, film, doc., etc, etc. Me, I'm getting used to it...I understand the frustrated demeanor. Reminds me of when my son was but 5 or 6(he just turned 30 March 70),when I was showing him pictures of long gone Indians, trying to get him to understand his Culture at an early age, he asked me "Why are they all SAD"! You see, I saw the beautiful wrinkles of the Old ones and seriousness of stoic Warriors and Women, he saw saddness because there was not a smile on all those pages! This is what badeagle wants people to see, sadness, depredations of the reservations. Thats not the way I live which is just like you.

A child is taught hatred/racism, he is not born with it. Guidence and love goes a long way.

CM

Anonymous said...

I found the following exchange between Stephan Suleyman Schwartz and Robert Spencer telling.

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=10797

Why will Suleyman not answer the questions? What does he have to fear? Or, better yet, what is he trying to gloss over? Robert Spencer is as fair minded, articulate, and rational as they come.

The Myth of Islamic Tolerance is something Suleyman is trying to perpetuate.

And just how and why did Schwartz give himself the name of Suleyman?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_the_Magnificent

The full name of "Suleiman I, His Imperial Majesty Grand Sultan, Commander of the Faithful and Successor of the Prophet of the Lord of the Universe" (as if that wasn't long enough?):

"Full Style

His Imperial Majesty The Sultan Süleyman I, Sovereign of the Imperial House of Osman, Sultan of Sultans, Khan of Khans, Commander of the Faithful and Successor of the Prophet of the Lord of the Universe, Protector of the Holy Cities of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem, Emperor of The Three Cities of Constantinople, Andrinopole and Bursa, and of the Cities of Damascus and Cairo, of all Armenia, of the Magris, of Barka, of Kairuan, of Aleppo, of Arabic Iraq and of Ajim, of Basra, of El Hasa, of Dilen, of Raka, of Mosul, of Parthia, of Diyarbakır, of Cilicia, of the Vilayets of Erzurum, of Sivas, of Adana, of Karaman, Van, of Barbary, of Abyssinia, of Tunisia, of Tripoli, of Damascus, of Cyprus, of Rhodes, of Candia, of the Vilayet of the Morea, of the Marmara Sea, the Black Sea and also its coasts, of Anatolia, of Rumelia, Baghdad, Kurdistan, Greece, Turkistan, Tartary, Circassia, of the two regions of Kabarda, of Georgia, of the plain of Kypshak, of the whole country of the Tartars, of Kefa and of all the neighbouring countries, of Bosnia and its dependencies, of the City and Fort of Belgrade, of the Vilayet of Serbia, with all the castles, forts and cities, of all Albania, of all Iflak and Bogdania, as well as all the dependencies and borders, and many other countries and cities."

beakerkin said...

Anon

If you are Mark Winters just say so and be over with it.

Now onto that exchange. I have read all three authors in question. None of the above has a monopoly on truth.

The question is do we want to go through world war three in a religious war that the West will likely win. Moreover, Islam in and of itself was not the problem. It was far leftist types stirring the pot and adding fuel to the fire.

Defang the far left first and you will end the war on terror.

Schwartz is a patriot and a man of culture and vision. The truth is to a certain extent all of us are prisoners of linear thinking. We project the current into the future when much of it is unknown.

Many of us felt the Soviet Union would never fall or that China would never change. Then we assumed
the treasonous communists in the USA and Western Europe would merely
slink into the dustbin instead of fostering a new evil, radical Islam. Linear thinking is what brought us global warming and a new ice age theory.

We do not know what the future holds and it never is linear. How will a third generation of Muslim immigrants in Europe react. Generation three is usually very assimilated in the USA. However, the great unknown is the damage of Marxist agitators. Even more unknown is what happens to Islam if a core of Westernized types gain
influence.

We do not know for certain. Schwartz is more like Yeltsin standing on the tank without the booze. We can not remain frozen to the possibility of a better future.

It starts by looking at the damage done by the Galloways, Pilgers, Fisks, Chomsky, Trotskyites and all
other forms of enemies of Western Civilization.

Anonymous said...

Here's a piece from David Horowitz's Newsrealblog that evidently got by the editor and Chief himself. Either that, or the editor let John R. Guardiano publish this to make an example out of him.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03/14/swindle-and-forsmark-swing-and-miss-in-their-analysis-of-moderate-islam/#pageTitle

I think you could have written something this print worthy, Beak. I really do. Now knowing of your love affair with Suleyman the Magnificent, that is.

Pay close attention to the first quote where, either the author of the quote, or the quoter of the quote, or both, fail to notice that "Obama" should read Osama! But what is really worth reading are the scathing rebuttals in the comments section, which speak directly to this issue of "moderate Islam", and where support of the thing really gets us. Maybe no one of the three (Horowitz, Spencer or Suleyman, the Sovereign of the Imperial House of Osman, Sultan of Sultans, Khan of Khans, Commander of the Faithful and Successor of the Prophet of the Lord of the Universe)has a monopoly on the truth, but here I'd go with Spencer, backed by Horowitz, as having garnered Park Place and ALL the railroads this go round.

And, I must take this opportunity to acknowledge and commend our gracious host's option of allowing new posters the option of posting anonymously. (Or with any handle they so desire.)

Thank you, again.

Carry on, Old Chap!

beakerkin said...

Hold on a moment

I have butted heads with Stephen Schwartz on occasion. However, I prefer to avoid linear thinking. This is a serious error in logic.

Much of the future remains unknown
and the world we create will be a direct consequence of our actions.
Those who travel have often said that Muslims are more radicalized in London than in Cairo. They are also more radicalized on a campus
than in a factory. The answer is quite simple in that Marxists have
been acting as the enablers of radical Islam.

If we really want to stamp out terrorism we need to first deal with Marxists at home. We need to confront the ideology and drain the swamps. Start turning up the pressure on them domestically and
do not relent. Marginalize and ridicule them at every opportunity.

One can find decent Muslims with zero effort. Where Muslims are in a blood fever in the USA it is because Marxists need it that way.

People like Schwartz are aware of the disaster of Whabism and the alliance with the hate America left. It is a bizarre aliance in that Muslims are more socially conservative than the folks at the 700 club.

The alliance depends on Communists vilifying Israel. There is no other basis for this alliance of idiots.

What results have the far left produced for Muslims in America.
The have received nothing but black eyes. There are issues other than Israel.

The Muslims I know respect property and hard work. They have nothing in common with communists
who are evil to the core.

Once again I have read all three authors extensively. It is a mistake to think that Horowitz does not grasp the problems caused by the left in the alliance. In fact the leftists in the middle East are a different sort than those in the USA. They mainly have a watered down version of Islam mixed with liberation theology. Think Yaser Arafat and his decades long theft and fake bio or Assad and Saddam. Islam and Marx are covers for cleptocracy.

I will stick with Schwartz, but prefer to call him by his birth name. Who knows what the third generation in Europe will be like. In America it would be fairly assimilated. However, the EU is not America and entrenched Marxists are fostering division for their power mad utopias.

The best hope for the planet is that Muslims themselves will see no
tangible results can be achieved until they ditch the far left and learn to respect the societies they live in.

Ultimately, if Israel were destroyed it would not change the economic situation of anyone in Europe or America looking to feed their families.

The Pagan Temple said...

You're looking through rose-colored glasses Beak. If there is an alliance between Muslims and far left type, that didn't happen by accident.

Always On Watch said...

More and more Westerners are converting to Islam.

Why?

They're looking for something to fill their lives, and Islam does do that.

Mark Alexander and I discussed this very topic last week on The Gathering Storm Radio Show.

Ducky's here said...

Now that you've left Yeagley is Schwartz your surrogate?

Now ditching that white supremacist moron was a good move Beak but you really need to get off this kick that genius involves simple agreeing with you on Judaism and foreign policy involves simply letting Israel do whatever the hell it wants to do.

Shallow, Beak. You need to flesh it out a little and Schwartz ain't offering anything that millions upon millions didn't know. You should realize that you are real late to the game.

Always On Watch said...

Duck,
I don't hate people.

Really.

I do find flaws in certain ideologies.

beamish said...

PT,

If there is an alliance between Muslims and far left type, that didn't happen by accident.

Not much thought behind "the world would be a better place if all the Jews were dead" - the central tenet of both Islam and leftism.

Islam is anti-rational where leftists are incapable of rationality, dove-tailed to the same irrational belief.

There is some growing overlap. Osama Bin Laden is on the global warming bandwagon now.