Monday, March 22, 2010

Beakerkin interviews all the readers

I am often sometimes surprised by the reaction of the readers to things I consider to be non issues.
When I created this blog I did expect that my unique views would attract some heat. I was prepared for some very nasty personal attacks from hard core Bolshevik worms. I was even somewhat prepared when my privacy was invaded by these same death cultists.

Over the last few days I have been taken back by the reactions to nudity, art and civilization. The questions come in terms of some of the reactions of Sonia. Not all blogging can be about politics and the routine. In fact many people prefer to read this site when we stick to interviewing.

With the reaction in mind I want to hold the first mass interview of the readers about some non traditional issues we seldom ever discuss. Anyone can take part in this unless your name is John Brown/LWB, Uptown Steve, Socrates, Eitan Divinsky or Gertrude Meyers.

1) What are your views on nudity?

It is a personal choice probably best done at home. There are people who seriously need to be clothed for aesthetic purposes like Lynne Stewart. Nudity is not very practical as where one puts keys, wallets and cell phones becomes a thought I would just rather not think about.

That being said I do not condemn the next persons choice.

2) What are your views on homosexuality in the opposite sex.

In my case I must be in the minority as I find that subject to be a bore. There are guys fascinated by watching this, but I am not one of them. I have known several lesbians and the ones I know are not people I want to see naked. Even if this were not the case it is not something that interests me at all.

In my case I really do not care who sleeps with whom as long as all parties are consenting adults.
It really is not my business who sleeps with whom and I have better things to do with my time.


3) What are your views on art and pornography?

I do enjoy a tasteful nude like the works of Renoir. The woman should be painted as a vibrant individual, not like the soulless representations of Degas. I am not bothered by classical sculpture
as it is a tasteful representation of the human form.

Pornography is something that should not be available to children. I find depictions of sex mixed with violence to be disgusting. Depictions of S & M and rape disgust me.

4) Sonia's view that free societies produce great pornography.

There may be some truth to this. However, whether this is cause and effect is unknown.

As for Communist puritans, prostitution is endemic in certain communist countries. Commies frequently rationalize Castro's abuse of Cuba with talk of prostitution. However, the practice continues today and rather than be "America's brothel" it is the folks at the EU who are doing the exploitation.

5) Can depictions of sex in mainstream films be boring?

The movie Eyes Wide Shut was a colossal bore. The movie Bolero was also a major bore. Showgirls was also a bore. Nudity and sex with a dreadful script really serves no purpose. If the
story line is good and the scene is filmed well it is interesting.

What makes the above films notable is they were all poorly written. If I want to see badly written dialogue and a lousy acting I can just buy any of the thousands of X rated titles. I do not
watch a film to see moronic stories and wooden acting. The film Eyes Wide Shut was a bore and Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise can not act even if their lives depended on it.

6) Should political considerations be used to censor certain works of literature? Would you want
to ban students from reading Mark Twain or Eugene O'Neil for using the N word or Dickens and Shakespeare for antisemitism?

I am rather amused at the infantile reactions from leftists. I did study Shakespeare, the Canterbury tales and Dickens in a Yeshiva. The notion that students could get a proper education without reading these texts was not considered. A small classroom discussion about
the literature reflecting the views of the society of the time was presented and the material was taught without any events. The antisemitic material is far worse than Twain's use of the N word in passing.

7) Should political movements control the arts.

No. This is also why commies like Arthur Miller can produce good works in the West, but their peers produce a series of flops under communism. Political censors and having to appease politicos produces bad results. Had Arthur Miller ever had to write the Crucible in the Soviet Union it would have been an inferior result.

Newsflash: Communist traitors unlike witches were real. Nobody suffered under McCarthyism
and if Miller wanted to see a real witch hunt he should have looked at the Slansky trial. Miller was not the sharpest tool in the shed. His IQ was higher than the reality impaired Pinter who never possessed a lucid moment in his wasted life.

8) Should Muslim students in public schools have to study art and the Holocaust?

Yes a basic education in the west would require some familiarity with art. The Holocaust as well
as the mass murders authored by Commies should be covered in a basic education. We also should cover Islamocolonialism and the mistreatment of minorities under Islamic rule.

If parents want to send their kids to private schools they may do so at their expense.

9) What are your views on homeschooling?

It should be allowed only if the students are tested with State wide regents to ensure that proficiency in certain subjects is met. If the students do not meet the standards they should be required to attend a formal school or get instruction from accredited educators.

10) Should Muslims be allowed to have religious courts in the USA or your country.

Only for those matters relating to their community like enforcing Halal laws and granting religious divorces. Family law should remain secular in its present form.

11) Would you be in favor of legalizing polygamy and polyandry?

No.

12) Should government offer services in every language?

No. The exception should be law enforcement and emergency health care. English proficiency should be required for getting a green card with the exceptions being children under ten and parents of United States Citizens over 70. If you can not speak the language you are not equipped for employment.

13) Should the government censor sermons?

Only if there is exhortation to criminal acts. If cleric A says kills the Jews, Gays or people wearing plaid this is criminal incitement. If cleric A says Jews are hell bound as unbelievers this is within the belief system of the Church.

14) Would you like UK type libel laws in your Country?

No. These laws are a mockery of free speech and allow David Irvings and George Galloway to extort their critics. It also needlessly restricts what books can be published.

15) Are you bothered by inter racial romance?

No, this is none of my business.The exception is Tyne Daly who needed to mention it in every sentence. Sorry but mentioning this over and over again says you are an imbecile.

16) Should Citizens who commit terrorism be executed for treason?

Yes. This is true of Bill Ayers comunists or Americans who act on behalf of Al Queda .

17) Should Americans who receive subsidized travel or compensation from hostile foreign governments be denaturalized?

People who receive subsidized travel from hostile foreign governments should be required to register as foreign agents. People who receive compensation from hostile foreign governments should also register as foreign agents. The exception being professionals such as attorneys who sometimes have to advise foreign governments.

In certain cases like those of Code Pink denaturalization and deportation for sending money to our enemies in Falujah is warranted.

18) Should the government tax junk food

No, I want the government out of my refrigerator.

19) Should the government tax gasoline

No this tax discriminates against rural Americans who operate farm machinery and drive longer
distances to work.

20) Should the states subsidize the arts?

No. It should help out some museums to create tourist attractions and sites for students to learn
but that is all.

21) Have you ever seen your local economy worse.
No

22) Has the Green movement killed jobs?
Yes. We should be drilling for oil everywhere.

23) Are you in favor of the death penalty for foreign terrorists?
Yes, but only after military trials.

24) Are you bothered by public displays of religion?
No. I enjoy a Christmas tree or two. I prefer less lighting than some for reasons of taste.

25) Would you boycott a film because of the political views of an actor?
I will not see a Sean Penn film. Communists should get the message that consumers have the right to object to their obnoxious views by staying home.


24 comments:

The_Editrix said...

Oh for Heaven's Sake Beak! Nobody (NO-BO-DY!) here expressed disapproval of nudity. Why doesn't that get through your skull? I didn't and that Mark Winters troll blabbered about it to TROLL a reaction from you -- which you gracefully provided, and several times for that. Get a grip!

Always On Watch said...

I don't have time to answer every question last now, but will address two:

16) Should Citizens who commit terrorism be executed for treason?

Absolutely! I don't want to pay for housing them for decades. In my view, such monies are better spent elsewhere in our economy.

25) Would you boycott a film because of the political views of an actor?

I've never done so, except that I won't go to the theater to see certain actors' work. I will watch the film via NetFlix.

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I hope to stop by later to answer some more of the questions here. My being able to do so depends on how the day goes here, on the work front and on the home front.

beakerkin said...

Editrix

Be a sport. There are a lot of interesting questions

The_Editrix said...

Okay, here's the sport:

1) What are your views on nudity?

It's a private matter and ought to remain private. I don't want to have it shoved in my face. If a webpage contains a warning about nudity, that's good enough for me.

2) What are your views on homosexuality in the opposite sex.

If homosexuals would take it as a matter of the bedroom, I wouldn't give an aviating fornication about what they do. As it is, I disapprove of the swinish displays that go by the name of "love parades" and I disapprove of their networking and politicking for privileges. To have one's sexual orientation sacrosanctified is not a human right.

3) What are your views on art and pornography?

I largely agree with you.

4) Sonia's view that free societies produce great pornography.

Well, even freedom has its flipside.

5) Can depictions of sex in mainstream films be boring?

EVERYTHING can be boring if talent-free people do it.

6) Should political considerations be used to censor certain works of literature? Would you want to ban students from reading Mark Twain or Eugene O'Neil for using the N word or Dickens and Shakespeare for antisemitism?

Don't be fatuous!

7) Should political movements control the arts.

No.

8) Should Muslim students in public schools have to study art and the Holocaust?

Why should Mohammedans be treated differently from anybody else?

9) What are your views on homeschooling?

I guess it's fine for Americans. I've got friends who did it with impressive results.

10) Should Muslims be allowed to have religious courts in the USA or your country.

Good joke!

11) Would you be in favor of legalizing polygamy and polyandry?

Eh?

12) Should government offer services in every language?

Why on earth should they?

13) Should the government censor sermons?

I agree with you.

14) Would you like UK type libel laws in your Country?

I agree more or less with you.

15) Are you bothered by inter racial romance?

Yes, but that is just me. I am bothered by ANY "romance" that is not strictly within one's peer group because it is bound to end in drama and worse and most of all I am bothered by the disgusting Americanism "romance".

16) Should Citizens who commit terrorism be executed for treason?

As a German, I hesitate to discuss capital punishment.

17) Should Americans who receive subsidized travel or compensation from hostile foreign governments be denaturalized?

Your pov makes sense to me.

18) Should the government tax junk food

Agree!

19) Should the government tax gasoline

Agree!

20) Should the states subsidize the arts?

Agree!

21) Have you ever seen your local economy worse.

The question doesn't apply to me.

22) Has the Green movement killed jobs?

But of course and for countless reasons, not just oil.

23) Are you in favor of the death penalty for foreign terrorists?

See my reply to 16).

24) Are you bothered by public displays of religion?

Not if it IS religion. I wouldn't want to see a public beheading on the market square after Friday prayers.

25) Would you boycott a film because of the political views of an actor?

But of course! I wouldn't per se, but it always seems to me that leftists are major bores, pain-in-the-asses and largely untalented. Barbra Streisand (I never understood what is so wonderful about her), Barbara Hershey (That mouth alone is an aesthetic offence!), Jessica Lange (I LONG to bitch-slap her!), or prize-emetic Susan Sarandon. I've never seen a film with Sean Penn, but he, too, has what we call a "slap-face" in German. By the way, does anybody in your country believe that people do NOT have the "right to object" to certain actors? I can't believe that.

The Pagan Temple said...

I have to defend Harold Pinter here, not as a person or his political views, which I as well find odious, but purely as a playwright. I loved The Homecoming. In fact, I fell in love with the girl I saw performing the role of Ruth, though we never became more than short-term friends, with no benefits.

I tend not to judge artists work by their personal views when it comes to exceptional works. Sean Penn is a brilliant actor, but I see nothing exceptional about his works. Of course the only thing I've ever seen by him is The Falcon And The Snowman. I don't think I'd see anything with him now either. His antics at the P'alm D'or a couple of years ago was the final straw.

Ducky's here said...

Ah, the soulless Degas

As usual, Beak has things backwards. I'm assuming he attended the Beamish School of Art

Ducky's here said...

Okay Beak, I'll play:

1. No problem with nudity. Just don't scare the horses.

2. I really don't care about a person's sexuality.

3. Renoir is a sentimental hack. Degas is a consummate painter.
Pornography is distinctly boring. If you start yawning, it's pornography. If it holds your interest, it's art.

4. Great pornography is an contradiction.

5. Anything can be boring. Sexually explicit scenes are generally a bore. They are generally unnecessary and indicate a lack of narrative or pictorial skill. Kubrick was a pompous bore after his switch to color. Just like Fellini.

6. I oppose all censorship.

7. Nothing should "control" arts. Individual expression is a necessity of existence.
Government subsidy is important as an antidote to the tyranny of the market. Look around the world and you'll find the most vibrant film production in countries with subsidies. Right now Romania is the best example.

8. No one should be required to study the Holocaust unless it is in a wider presentation of human atrocities.
Art is generally an elective and if Muslims don't elect it, then so be it.

9 I don't have much of an opinion one way or another about home schooling. I do note that it is often a way to avoid truth and you fail to censure that dogma the way you would censure, say, a Muslim who declines art instruction.

10. Courts which handle some civic cases are actually pretty efficient and a general benefit.
Muslims should, of course, have no recourse to separate criminal proceedings.

Ducky's here said...

11. Polygamy is a weakening of the already weak family unit. I would oppose it.

12. Services should be in English with the exception of certain functions of criminal justice.

13. I oppose censorship.

14. The fact that your references are to Irving and Galloway, i.e. the holocaust and Palestine, indicates your pathetic tunnel vision but I would not change our libel laws. Too bad, since it allows The Vulgar Pigboy, Glenn "He's Psycho" Beck, Sean Inanity etc. to operate with near impunity.

15. No. Inter racial anything doesn't bother me in the slightest.

16. No.

17. Only if they receive it from Israel.

18. I favor a junk food tax. Junk food is behind only drugs in the damage we do to ourselves. The tax counteracts the power of advertising.

19. I favor a state gas tax but I'm on the fence with federal.

20. Art should be considered an investment in the health of our nation. Right now there are all kinds of programs that do a lot to keep theater, music and literature available and diverse.

21. I believe this is the worst economy I've seen and I expect very slow improvement. The Ayn Rand folks are getting what the asked for but they aren't learning.

22. No, the green movement has not killed jobs. It has barely moved at all.

23. I oppose the death penalty.

24. I always enjoy the creche that my town puts out in a small central park.
I do not consider a Christmas tree to be religious in any way.

25. I would probably avoid an overtly conservative film but only because conservatives are so creatively stilted that they produce crap.
Penn is a very, very good actor. Vive Godard !

15.

Ducky's here said...

but their peers produce a series of flops under communism.

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I have to remind Beak that as an art historian he is almost as dumb as Beamish. I don't mean to be hostile but, Beak, it's important that you know your limitations.

You would be more nearly correct if you substituted Stalinism for communism.

I would like to remind you the supremacist movement in the early years of the revolution was an exceptionally fertile time. Russian cinema under Lenin was the best in the world.
It was only when Stalin intervened and adopted "heroic realism" (a movement supported by Ayn Rand and most right wingers, they only change the boring subject matter) that Russian art declined.
It came back under Khrushchev, only to be crushed again under Brezhnev.

I'm here to help, Beak. Remember, your hero Beamish thinks the apex of western music is Metallica's "Enter Sandman".

I know you want to ban certain majors from college study and I assume fine arts is one but you may wish to deal with your own ignorance before you advance your plan.

sonia said...

Editrix,

Nobody (NO-BO-DY!) here expressed disapproval of nudity.
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Sonia. I strongly disapprove of her way of life, in fact, I am disgusted by it.
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sonia said...

1) What are your views on nudity?

Covering one's body is an obscenity and should be banned.

2) What are your views on homosexuality in the opposite sex.

Gay homosexuality is bizarre, but I guess it should be tolerated out of LGBT solidarity...

Lesbian sex is often better than straight sex (especially for women who experience clitoral stimulations much more strongly than vaginal ones).

3) What are your views on art and pornography?

They are the same. Pornography is potentially the greatest form of artistic expression. Unfortunately, rarely achieved in real life.

4) Sonia's view that free societies produce great pornography.

It would be more accurate to say that only free society tolerates pornography (great and not-so-great)

5) Can depictions of sex in mainstream films be boring?

It can, if the view is obstructed. Softcore (i.e. obstructed) erotica is often EXTREMELY boring.

But it's safe to say that any mainstream Hollywood film that would depict an actual (hardcore) sexual encounter would NEVER be boring.

6) Should political considerations be used to censor certain works of literature? Would you want
to ban students from reading Mark Twain or Eugene O'Neil for using the N word or Dickens and Shakespeare for antisemitism?

Censorship is to art what genocide is to humanity.

7) Should political movements control the arts.

They can't. Fortunately.

8) Should Muslim students in public schools have to study art and the Holocaust?

I think Muslims should have the same rights as non-Muslims. So the proper question should be: "Should all students in public schools have to study art and the Holocaust?". If yes, Muslims should be included. If no, they shouldn't neither.

9) What are your views on homeschooling?

It's superior to other forms of schooling.

10) Should Muslims be allowed to have religious courts in the USA or your country.

As long as their "verdicts" cannot be enforced by the police, it's probably a harmless excentricity.

11) Would you be in favor of legalizing polygamy and polyandry?

Yes.

12) Should government offer services in every language?

That might be quite expensive... But if a particular linguistic community is ready to pay the FULL bill, why not ?

13) Should the government censor sermons?

No. But if a Muslim (or any other) preacher calls for a suicide attack and that attack actually takes place, the preacher should get life in prison (or an electric chair).

14) Would you like UK type libel laws in your Country?

No.

15) Are you bothered by inter racial romance?

Only if it's sappy....

16) Should Citizens who commit terrorism be executed for treason?

Only if the penalty for treason is harsher than the penalty for murder. If the penalty is the same, I don't care.

17) Should Americans who receive subsidized travel or compensation from hostile foreign governments be denaturalized?

Only if they spent that money abroad. If they spend it in United States, they should be praised.

If Cuba had kept all the money it had spent since 1960 on exporting their revolution abroad, fewer Cubans would be eaten by sharks trying to get to Florida...

18) Should the government tax junk food

The government shouldn't tax anything.

19) Should the government tax gasoline

Only the CITGO stations.

20) Should the states subsidize the arts?

Yes.

21) Have you ever seen your local economy worse.

Yes. But I used to live under Communism.

22) Has the Green movement killed jobs?

It certainly didn't create many.

23) Are you in favor of the death penalty for foreign terrorists?

Domestic too...

24) Are you bothered by public displays of religion?

I am not bothered by anything.

25) Would you boycott a film because of the political views of an actor?

No. Even Sean Penn has made great films, like "Into The Wild"

beakerkin said...

Ducky

The Beamish school of Art is thoroughly American and should be appreciated by all true fans of culture. His additions to a classic Renoir painting were the best satire on the web. New Algeria has yet to recover from the satire.

The_Editrix said...

Sonia, I am sorry, Beak kind of forced me by his repeated oafish assumptions to state quite clearly that it is indeed not the nudity in your blog of which I disapprove. There is a warning and that is good enough for me. I don't want to discuss here (or anywhere else, for that) what I think of the other aspects of your way of life. What I think should be of no importance to you anyway. No offense intended.

sonia said...

Editix,

What I think should be of no importance to you anyway.
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Quite the contrary. It is always of a VERY grave importance to my what people (you included) think about "my way of life".

And if it's not my nudist lifestyle, it must be one of the following:

1) my bisexual orientation,

2) my inter-racial marriage, or

3) pornographic photos on my blog.

My guess it's (1), because I rarely write about (2) (you would have to browse through my entire blog to find refences to it in some very old posts). And it's probably not (3) because the NSFW warning apparently scared you from visiting my blog (which is just as well, since one of my recent posts would probably gave you a heart attack).

So my guess is that you strongly disapprove of my lesbianism, in fact, you are disgusted by it.

It hurts because you're a woman (I don't really care what men think about it). I had my share of "don't touch me, you dirty lesbo" when I was younger and it still hurts. Deeply.

Your "Sonia, I am sorry" helps a bit here, I guess...

beamish said...

1) What are your views on nudity?

Like spandex, it's a priviledge, not a right.

2)What are your views on homosexuality in the opposite sex.

I have a lot in common with lesbians.

3) What are your views on art and pornography?

I like art. Pornography somewhat disturbs me.

4) Sonia's view that free societies produce great pornography.

And repressed societies produce great snuff films. Pornography isn't exactly the pinnacle of free expression.

5) Can depictions of sex in mainstream films be boring?

Yes.

6) Should political considerations be used to censor certain works of literature?

No. Never.

7) Should political movements control the arts.

No. And they don't.

8) Should Muslim students in public schools have to study art and the Holocaust?

There should be no such thing as a public school.

9) What are your views on homeschooling?

A good idea.

10) Should Muslims be allowed to have religious courts in the USA or your country.

No. Absolutely not.

11) Would you be in favor of legalizing polygamy and polyandry?

No.

12) Should government offer services in every language?

Government shouldn't be offering most of the services it does. But no.

13) Should the government censor sermons?

No.

14) Would you like UK type libel laws in your Country?

No.

15) Are you bothered by inter racial romance?

No.

16) Should Citizens who commit terrorism be executed for treason?

Yes.

17) Should Americans who receive subsidized travel or compensation from hostile foreign governments be denaturalized?

Yes.

18) Should the government tax junk food

No. Taxes meant to regulate and punish behavior with fines rather than raise revenues are unconstitutional.

19) Should the government tax gasoline

No.

20) Should the states subsidize the arts?

No.

21) Have you ever seen your local economy worse.

No.

22) Has the Green movement killed jobs?

Yes.

23) Are you in favor of the death penalty for foreign terrorists?

Yes.

24) Are you bothered by public displays of religion?

Only when the display kills people.

25) Would you boycott a film because of the political views of an actor?

Nah. I just pirate the movie off the internet and sell DVD copies of it at flea markets to raise money for politicians I support.

;)

beakerkin said...

Mr. B

Are you shocked the Duck is in favor of gasoline taxes at the state level.Gasoline taxes are literally sticking a middle finger at rural American who have to drive great distances to work.

I am not surprised he wants to tax my right to eat a bag of Doritos and a Mountain Dew.

Sonia

As far as lesbianism it does not bother me. I am the rare guy who is bored by images of it. Most guys that I know are like Mr. Beamish.

Maybe as a romantic it is because I prefer to do than to have a seat
on the bench. Maybe it is just because of the very intense bonds
I feed when I am in love.

Always On Watch said...

9) What are your views on homeschooling?

As most know, I work with groups of homeschoolers. I've done so since 1998.

Since that date, I've seen improvements in the methods and the clientele. I work with the college bound.

Yes, we are conservatives and Christians, but we're not as close-minded as many think we are. At least, not most of us. There ARE exceptions (few) among the parents who shelter their children too much, in my view.

I'm all for the standardized testing mentioned above. Note: I don't know of a single homeschooler in my group who hasn't passed such tests well above the norm, usually in the 90th percentile. In Virginia, BTW, children are excluded from the testing if the parents are homeschooling via a religious exemption; most I know do not homeschool via that exemption, however.

Regarding Question 2 about homosexuals, I agree in the main with The Editrix:


If homosexuals would take it as a matter of the bedroom, I wouldn't give an aviating fornication about what they do. As it is, I disapprove of the swinish displays that go by the name of "love parades"...


Furthermore, NAMBLA is so disgusting that I don't have words for it.

Ducky's here said...

Are you shocked the Duck is in favor of gasoline taxes at the state level.Gasoline taxes are literally sticking a middle finger at rural American who have to drive great distances to work.

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Then those states would be able to avoid implementing the tax, you dildo.

beamish said...

It doesn't surprise me that Ducky supports gasoline taxes. As a leftist who takes great efforts to avoid anything intellectually stimulating, Ducky only goes where public transportation will take him, going where he's told to go and doing what he's told to do, ever ready to show his bus ticket to security in anticipation of one day having to show his travel papers or in homoerotic hopes that he'll be frisked for contraband. So, he doesn't pay gasoline taxes.

As for lesbians, as a male I think I can understand their attraction to females. I would think they'd prefer sex that doesn't require a toolbox and strap on accessory kit, but maybe there is some merit to Freud's "penis envy" hypothesis.

The_Editrix said...

Sonia, as I said before, this is not the place to discuss it and whatever I say you will refute by saying "It isn't so." I don't give a fig for a person's sexual orientation and activities as long as they are not shoved in my, or anybody else's, face. And as I said, in the Internet, an adult content warning is good enough for me. However, I find it very telling, in fact EXTREMELY so, that neither the Beak nor you find your marriage vows sufficiently important enough to even BEGIN to assume that THAT might be the reason for my disapproval. You will say now that your husband is absolutely thrilled by your extramarital rompings and that they, together with your public bragging about it, have no adverse effect on your children as well and that they are probably even good for them. Fine! That is why any discussion is fruitless. I find it deplorable that you take criticism so badly, and as I said before, I wouldn't have brought it up at all wouldn't the Beak's jumpings to conclusions drive me up the wall. I am genuinely, seriously sorry if I hurt you, it wasn't my intention. However, the Internet is free even to express opinions that might clash with yours. You challenged me to speak out, I didn't shove my views in your face.

I consider this exchange finished.

The_Editrix said...

"Regarding Question 2 about homosexuals, I agree in the main with The Editrix:

If homosexuals would take it as a matter of the bedroom, I wouldn't give an aviating fornication about what they do. As it is, I disapprove of the swinish displays that go by the name of "love parades"...

Furthermore, NAMBLA is so disgusting that I don't have words for it."

Awmegawd AOW! What did you do to me? I had no idea that anything like that existed. When the Green party entered the political scene here in the early Eighties, they pushed for legalizing sex with children and it was, too, mainly a man-boy thing. It didn't go down very well, but it's still on their political back burner. Maybe you have heard about the sexual abuse scandal in German schools? The good thing about it is that at least some people have twigged that if Catholic priests do it, it is at least considered a serious aberration and a sin, whereas among the "progressive pedagogic elite" it is part of the system and the apologists are crawling up from beneath their stones now.

Federal Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger (That is her name, no kidding!), who had viciously attacked the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church ONLY, is on the advisory board of of the Humanist Union, an agnostic-oriented "human rights" organisation with, it turned out, strong tendencies to de-criminalize sex with children.

At the end of the day, children have no lobby.

sonia said...

Beamish,

I would think they'd prefer sex that doesn't require a toolbox and strap on accessory kit
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I think you watch way too many of what you refer to as "not exactly the pinnacle of free expression"...

Actual lesbian sex relies less on tools and more on tongues and fingers.

The Pagan Temple said...

Sonia-

My buddy Aladdinslad told me to tell you that one of these days he is going to cure you of your lesbianism. He is still appalled that you are after all this time still one of the "filther disgust homosexer queiers."

CM said...

INTERNET AND HISTORY CHANNEL.....
I learn more in my old age than I experienced when I was young! Being nosey, I looked up NAMBLA.

According to the History Channel it began with the Roman men with young boys at their knees mentory them outdoors under trees by lovely rivers. No wonder they only only robes or cloaks!

Makes me not want by Grandsons involved with the scouts or any man group, yet what about the little girls who's parents have arranged marriages in some churches this seems to be favored still.

We must hold our children close...crazies out there.

When your grown do whatever blows your skirt up, but with a consenting adult.

CM