Thursday, November 02, 2006

Five Questions with Farmer John

Farmer John and I sometimes delve into the abstract. This five question interview will focus on some vauge topics.

1 In my extensive readings and contact with Communist it seems that almost everyone that I encounter grew up in a home without religion. Is this a case of nature abhoring a vacum? Does Marxism have religious overtones?

2 Are the ecoutopians guilty of inventing a paradise that never was intheir Green Fantasies.

3 Are those on the far left elitists or thieves with killer PR?

4 Should man recreate extinct species with modern technology. Is cloning a Wolly Mammoth from frozen DNA a bad idea?

5 Are bioenginered or genetrically altered foods a potential problem for mankind. Is the lack of genetic diversity amongst domestic annimals and crops a potential problem in the future.

53 comments:

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

How come FJ gets all the cool questions?

beakerkin said...

Mr Beamish you can answer them if you like. However, bioengineered food issues seem a natural fit for the Farmer.

beakerkin said...

Mr Beamish you can answer them if you like. However, bioengineered food issues seem a natural fit for the Farmer.

Robert Bayn said...

godlessness is always the beginging of a downfall for any civilization.

JINGOIST said...

I'm jealous! The Farmer got better questions than I did. The first question was especially good Beak. The fact that you asked it tells me that you know the answer.

I was raised by two atheist parents. They are both politically conservative atheists who love our country. I've also checked it out, they are officially the world's best parents. We obviously don't talk about G-d at family get togethers.

Morgan

nanc said...

6. how come the beak is the only link at "farmer's letters"? do you have the rest of us committed to memory or just committed?

i love it when i can slide two questions into one number!

Elmer's Brother said...

are pork rinds and Alaskan Amber beer bioengineered?

Farmer John said...

I'll try and answer beaks questions using my own personal mental paradigm one at a time...

1) In my extensive readings and contact with Communist it seems that almost everyone that I encounter grew up in a home without religion. Is this a case of nature abhoring a vacum? Does Marxism have religious overtones?

In my opinion, YES. Nature abhors a vacuum AND Marxism has religious overtones Why do I believe this to be true? Because I believe that 1/2 of the human brain is dedicated to trying to figure out how everything it encounters is One and works inductively, while the other half works deductively on trying to figure out how everything it encounters is Many. The difference between the Religious Man and the Communist Man is that the religious man believes in a "single" Universe that was "created" and therefore has a Creator and the Communist Man in his sophistication knows that he can never know the answer as to whether or not their is a single universe, a multi-verse, or numerous multiverses or universes. He only believes that there is no Creator (since he has never seen one), or that if there is one, He probably can't be bothered with intervening in human affairs.

And so in this Vacuum of a Creator, the communist man steps in with an agency that can be depended upon to intervene in human affairs...the government. And so the communist man invests all his time and energy into endowing his creator of all equal men with the power to make it so... to balance the demands of the two-halves of his brain between the the problem of the One and Many by creating many men who are alike, equalizing Many within One. And so you might call this a "hatred" of inequality that cannot find rest until it achieves it.... a sort of mental mania or obsession... the deity called Big "G" Government.

And so the religious man believes that G_d is the Power... whereas the communist man believes that Government is the Power...

& of course, most communists also believe that only THEY are qualified to actually BE the Government (Nietzsche, "Will to Power) and that religious men are really-really-really stupid and unsophisticated.

Farmer John said...

2) Are the eco-utopians guilty of inventing a paradise that never was in their Green Fantasies.

Again, beak, I have to answer in the affirmative. I believe that the greens have a Rousseauian ideal of nature in which man can naturally live in harmony with his fellow man and beasts and ignores the reality that every living AND inert object is involved in a ceaseless and unending struggle for power and control and MUST CONSUME and eventually BE CONSUMED... and that the "harmony" or "concensus" they seek is unachievable.

Although I admire their efforts to have a minimal impact on the land and their environment, I am afraid that they are in denial about the inherent inhumanity of man (his fundamental nature) AND the potential men have for arriving at ANY concensus as to what the carrying capacity of the planet should be or the many different and diverse preferred material/spiritual lifestyles that should be allowed or what the total carrying capacity of the planet could be under the many different population and lifestyle selection scenarios selected above.

Finally, I believe they TOTALLY ignore the impact engineering some utopian outcome would have on their own personal liberties.

nanc said...

essentially, what you're saying in answer #1 is that everybody wants a ruler/ a boss, be it a man, a god, or a government.


just here to cheer the farmer on!

JINGOIST said...

EB is that beer a brand name?

Morgan

Farmer John said...

3) Are those on the far left elitists or thieves with killer PR?

I'd have to say both AND neither. In reality, I think they're just people who do to their mental obsession/mania cannot find mental peace. Since they have no G_d in which to trust (In G_d we Trust) or grant them peace, the Far Lefties must attempt to place their trust in Government and men, and as we all know: power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely (Catch-22). Their killer PR comes from the fact that they are mentally in a state of denial to the fact that they are (subconciously) an elite of sorts (for they believe that only they know the truth) and that to achieve their utopia they must rob the material goods and liberties of others. The mental stress they are under makes them extremely smart, sometimes brilliant and enables them to achieve great rhetorical skills. It also drives them to be "power/influence-seeking" in their career choices.

Farmer John said...

4) Should man recreate extinct species with modern technology? Is cloning a Wolly Mammoth from frozen DNA a bad idea?

Personally I see no reason for doing so and think that attempting to clone ANYTHING is a risk to human survival. We hit the top of the food pyramid on this planet (although we brought a number of microscopic bugs with us to the pinnacle) through natural selection and I see no reason for believing that artificial cloning can help us achieve anything better. And I don't believe in immortality or super-long lifespans or developing cures for every disease known to man. I, for one, never wish to become a struldbrugg or work in the Academy of Lagado.

But if others like to roll the DNA dice and subject us all to Khan's Wrath, there is little I can do to stop them. I can only hope that my opinion will make them a little more cautious...

Farmer John said...

5) Are bioenginered or genetrically altered foods a potential problem for mankind. Is the lack of genetic diversity amongst domestic animals and crops a potential problem in the future.

There is no doubt in my mind that they currently are problems and will forever remain problems. I believe their are potentially an infinite number of environmental niches in the universe for life-forms to fill. I don't believe we have any responsibility for attempting to fill them all. I trust that there already IS a plan in effect for doing THAT. And that if we humans feel we must interfere with THAT plan, so be it. My ancestors already ruined one Garden... so what's one more?

beakerkin said...

I don't know about number four. Part of me would like to see a Wooly Rhino or Mammoth roam Siberia
again.

Farmer John said...

As for other questions...

beamish... I get the cool questions and you don't because I asked beak to use his rifle instead of his greande launcher. Surely, there is a difference?

robert... I agree in that it is an agent of unrest that unleashes a desire for change. It's just a shame we can seldom agree as to what changes would be for the better and which the worse BEFORE we start to make the changes.

Morgan... one's religion has little to do with one's capacity to love, especially those things they can recognize as being of an eternal nature.

nanc... I only link to beak because from beak's I can go to wherever I choose to go. I hate to admit it publically, but my blog is all about me. Besides, I have a tendency to upset many of the different people I argue with, and beak runs a great fortress to hide in when the pursuit comes after me. I'd like to think I can burn my blog at any time, and not lose a thing.

beak and warren - I love you guys!

I'm basically a lover of wisdom, not a fighter for wisdom.

and nanc, if you had seeds to sow, what environment would you sow them in? I try and commit as many of my friends as I can to memory, although some of them, like beak, are braced to withstand an incoming tide.

eb... I don't care. They both taste good. My only caution would be...Nothing to excess!

Farmer John said...

nanc... I think I'm saying in #1 that everyman wants to know, and seeks his place in rank, and that in the beginning, it is natural to want to be #1. It is also natural (at some point) to "let go" of the desire to be #1, and entrust that spot to the hands of others. Of course, the latter position requires a little maturation to develop... acceptance of one's rank and confidence in others.

beak... I wouldn't mind seeing one, but I'd hate to see them get out of Jurassic Park. Besides...it would take a LOT of territory on the planet to carve out a place for them. Who's are you going to turn over to them? The caribou's?

American Crusader said...

These are good questions.
FJ seems to be one of the most knowledgeable people I've met on the Internet.
Along with ducky
Looking forward to his answers.

beakerkin said...

AC

We did interview the Duck way back at the start.

FJ what caused the extinction of the Wooly Mammoth remains unknown.
Maybe my grand kids will get to see one or a Moa. The Mammoth may be possible because it was frozen.

nanc said...

beak - plucky has had enough time to change his mind!

farmer? i've seeds to sow, but don't always plant them in fertile ground. the seeds that do sprout need cultivation - isn't that what sowing seeds is truly about?

beak? what about all the new species of animals they're finding in the seas and in lands south of the equator? those are things our ancestors never imagined. you answered your own question on the wooly mammoth i believe.

every single living thing is on the edge of extinction at any given moment. to every thing there is a season...

nanc said...

farmer? everybody loves beak and warren!

Farmer John said...

beak - I guess we'll never know what caused their extinction although many have speculated that primitive human hunters played a part (as w/the dodo, passenger pigeon, and buffalo, almost). But the good thing is that once a niche is emptied, over time, new adaptations will lead to it being refilled. I wouldn't necessarily call it progress... just another vacuum being filled. There's no law against bringing back the woolly-bully... only that it potentially opens a door to millions of other unanticipated natural adaptations at the microsopic and macroscopic levels that may now blossom as a result... the wooly mammoth flu or the extinction of the now endangered caribou dung-hopper.

nanc...as for the soil...I look for fertile minds to plant in and cultivate and observe for growth... I don't care much for lining up electrons in a blog or database as much as watching other farmers line up their own neurons and plant their own crops as I do the same. The better and stronger they are, the more they, in turn, teach me. It's that Nietzsche thing... that which does not kill me makes me stronger. And ultimately, it's what we all take away from the exchange that matters... not so much the medium. Unless it sticks in the mind, the seed has likely fallen upon sterile ground.

nanc said...

caribou dung hopper?

say it ain't so!

Farmer John said...

it ain't so!

Poetic license.

Farmer John said...

I stole it from Edgar Allen after tripping over him in a Baltimore back-alley. I was rat-fishing at the time.

nanc said...

the caribou dung hopper or the poetic license?

7. on what basis do you choose such stunning farmitars?

Farmer John said...

The poetic licensce is what I stole before I shoved it into the caribou's dung hopper.

7) The vast majority of my avatars are of the same subject... Joseph Brant (aka Brandt amongst other alias' - a man of much mystery, I might [& did] add).

Farmer John said...

oooops, sorry. Basis?

ad hoc.

Farmer John said...

...and of course since I was formally answering some serious questions... I figured I needed to become a little less colourful...

Mr. Ducky said...

I wonder how many "communists" you folks know? Not very many since it's a dying ideology.

Anyway, I have been a Catholic all my life, I am very attracted to The Catholic Worker movement and Dorothy Day. I also value religious existentialists such as Gabriel marcel and Kierkegaard.

I would soften my stance towards evangelicals if they proved they weren't just a bunch of hyprocritical haters. proved they were people who understand the Sermon on the Mount.

They aren't Christians and it is also impossible for a laissez faire capitalist or a Randoid to be a Christian.

Sorry folks, you just don't walk in the light. There's time to convert and learn, however.

beakerkin said...

Duck

You just happern to walk and talk like a sterotype commie out of central casting. How about a trip to Cuba. You can tell us all about Fidel's great health care or be in charge of the film library at Gitmo.

You can discuss the seven Samuri with blood thirsty jihadis.

nanc said...

ODL - a plucky sermon on the fount!

here we go again...

everybody stand back and make was for beamish.

Robert Bayn said...

Ducky, you group all the Evangelicals together as somehow not walking in the "light", i have nothing against Catholics, in fact i think Catholics are as much Christian as anyone else, but i haven't seen much of what you say even slightly resemble being Christ like, than again that could be said for a lot of folks including me, but you sure do come off as being very supportive of Communist regimes, so i will be willing to buy you a plane ticket to live in Cuba, since its just so wonderful!

Farmer John said...

hey ducky...

When you take away all their opportunities to do good work and turn them over to the Government...what do you expect? It's a little to hard to practice a faith you aren't allowed to practice anymore (& wasn't that a 1st Ammendement right - Free Exercise?) You turned the practice of religion into a hate crime. The churches didn't treat all sinners equally.... a crime against communism. The churches dared to distinguish between the deserving and undeserving poor. Communists think that pushers and drug addicts are the meek from the Sermon on the Mount.

Farmer John said...

Even G_d doesn't save everybody ducky.... they've got to seek Him out.

Farmer John said...

...and sins aren't automatically forgiven just because they fall below some economic threshold. The sinner actually has to repent.

Farmer John said...

mr. ducky's upset because religious people refuse to bow down to his recently cast golden calf.

Please ducky. We've all been down that road before. We've seen golden chickens and even golden gecko's before. Explain to us why a $17K (or other) Poverty definition line is holy and should guarantee one lifetime support upon a hammock once labelled a Government social safety/security net.

Farmer John said...

I can't wait to hear ducky's Sermon on the Government teat...

Farmer John said...

Social Security without any Social Responsibility. I can't wait until hardened criminals are entitled to Part II Medicare/Medicaid payments instead of being sent to prisons.

Oooops. I guess we'll get THAT change with the newCongress in '07! Part of a Barney Frank sponsored Social Security Reform package.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Ducky,

You're a Catholic. That's indication enough that you've never been exposed to Christianity.

Now go burn a candle to the Mary-shaped tear in your kitchen linoleum, and leave Biblical theology to those familiar with it.

Farmer John said...

Sorry for the rant folks.

mr ducky knows my buttons only a little too well....

We'll y'all have a great weekend!

Ciao time!

nanc said...

there is no need for you to be sorry, farmer! none whatsoever!

The Merry Widow said...

Nice job, Beaker and FJ!
No, I won't bow down to any golden calves, no matter who puts them up! And plucky, I may just recreate a dissertation I sat under, about the Beatitudes. Drug addicts and gangsters, prostitutes, and those who have lost the ability to recognize right and wrong. Jesus was pretty strict about our thought life, that our mind is where the battle is won or lost, before we act.
Strict interpretation of Scripture is born out by Jesus own teachings. And HE never compromised on sin, but HE also went to sinners and told them that there was a way out! And we are all sinners!

tmw

Elmer's Brother said...

beamish... I get the cool questions and you don't because I asked beak to use his rifle instead of his greande launcher. Surely, there is a difference?

I won't tell you my wife's pet name for it.

Farmer enjoyed it, this was great.

Ducky...where'd you get your masters of divinity a cracker jack box or a bathroom stall?

Elmer's Brother said...

Morgan it is a most excellent of beers and like Farmer said is great in moderation...no more than two

nanc said...

or like nancpop says - just one!









right after the other...

JINGOIST said...

Farmer John that was the most interesting interview I've ever read. Humans are most definitely a hierarchical(is that a word?) bunch. So even if there wasn't a god we would have created Him.
In my opinion he exists without a doubt based on the laws of physics and the universe. It seems to necessarily follow that if there are physical laws of science and nature they must have been created.
It's the purvue of philosophers as much as it is scientists. I prefer Loren Isley to Nietze(sp?). Anyways I'll bore you no longer, that was a GREAT interview!

Morgan

Z said...

Morgan, were your atheist parents raised in religious homes!? It's wonderful how you talk of them....nice to hear a son so admiring of his folks.

Ducky, I guess it's a huge compliment that non-Christians always seem to think Christians are supposed to be perfect! But why is that? Everyone makes choices, everyone sins....why condemn a whole bunch for the hideous choices of a few? We're Christians, we have the promise, we're not perfect.

Farmer John, what IS your blog site, and did I EVER enjoy reading your answers. Normally, I loathe people who make me feel stupid, but I'm getting over it!! And benefiting from it! Fantastic thoughts. Thank you.

And who the HECK is this WARREN everyone adores? Please tell!!

glad to be here.........z

beakerkin said...

Zinla

Warren's site is called Long Range.
Warren and I founded this blog community around two years ago. Both of us used to post on Bad Eagle, but Warren has left and I am slightly there.

You can find Warren's blog by clicking on the link that says Long Range on the right.

Farmer John's site is farmersletters.blogspot.com.

z said...

thanks, beak....I'm enjoying your site..you sure have some fabulous posters. I'm humbled by your generosity and fairness and open mind..and by your and their intelligence.

it's a great service. z

nanc said...

i dub this co-contender for hotseat interview of the year!

beak? are you going to do a recap of the year at new year's? that would be so cool!

beakerkin said...

We haven't had to many klunkers as far as interviews just the one with Uptown. This has been one of the better one's. I like the ones with the Editrix, She Designs and the long forgotten interview with Rob the Dirty Liberal. This is near the top.

Elmer's Brother said...

I enjoyed this one very much and I agree it was one of the best ones.