Tuesday, April 20, 2010

Just another mixed bag.

I have been spending time rethinking Native Americans and Colonials. The subject is interesting
because the reason many of us were attracted to Bad Eagle was the myth of its creator. All of us wanted to believe in a persons right of self definition. The concept I thought of when I went to Bad Eagle was a Native American embracing the ethos of the founding fathers and celebrating Americanism.

Most readers are aware of my ethnicity. Jewish people have their own history. I do not hold grudges against Germans, Russians or any other nation for its past abuse of my people. Germany made amends and moved ahead. It is important to remember the Holocaust and Nazism from a historical perspective. The left cheapens the real history of Nazism by comparing anyone they do not like from GW Bush and various Pope's to Hitler. It has been suggested that I hate Poland. I am not a Pole but it is apparent that some Polish and Ukranian blood is in my DNA and perhaps in the residents of Poland as well. My family fought for Poland in 1920, but as Jews fending off a great evil. They left to come to a country where they could worship as they chose and be a part of Americana. You could talk to the immigrant generation and they would tell you with pride of earning their citizenship. Even my curmudgeon Holocaust survivor Uncle ran to take the test and was proud of his achievement.

When we talk of history we need to remove some of the Marxist crap. The story of America is not about class warfare and victimization. It is about a nation being founded on a set of shared ideals. Most of the difficult chapters in American history are from failing to spread those ideas to
its logical conclusion.

I want to point out the difference in the common American Patriot as typified by Mr Beamish and the Europhile apologist for totalitarianism Ducky. Ducky unlike most commies is relatively well rounded and can be personable.

A common rant of the Duck is complaining that freedom to most Americans is having 50 brands of Potato Chips to get obese. The reaction from the Patriotic Mr. B is who are you to determine what is best for America and pass the Barbecue Kettle Fried Chips.

Make no mistake in that when you are dealing with a Marxist you are dealing with a cultist who thinks he is in possession of the divine truth as stated by a mendicant unemployable philosopher. They are more fundamentalist and doctrinaire and less reality based than the folks at the 700 Club who they mock. They are also as bigoted as the KKK. They merely focus their obsessions on Jews merely using a code word or two.

This blog has plenty of readers who are genuine Christians. They would not dream of telling you
what food should be in your cupboard or taxing a Whopper. There are some who home school their children to avoid the Marxist indoctrination of our educational system. It would be far better to take the political agitation out of our educational system and get back to basics. Perhaps one day, parents could opt for a more traditional school program. A parent could choose if he wanted a more classical English lit program and traditional history as opposed to Marxist drivel. Maybe someday the folks in big education will grasp the damage the leftist activists have
done to their profession.

When you hear the Duck rattle on about Cuba making excuses about a regime that has been gone 50 years. It is a sign of progress that Cubans can read exactly what communists tell the unwashed masses. Hailed Cuban health care included the use of placing gays and political prisoners in mental hospitals. Aids patients were placed into what amounts as soft prisons. One could only imagine the reaction of the demented Duck if anyone suggested this in the USA.

With this divide noted lets look at history again

Slavery

Slavery was a given in all societies. The question of if the practice was barbaric didn't get considered later. The notion that slavery was an abomination was largely a Christian concept. The generic Marxist apologist view that somehow slavery in Africa, by American Indians or in Arabia was somehow less odious is political correctness run amok. Moreover, Marxists practice Neoslavery in gulags in the current era.

The United States went through a Civil War largely to end the practice. Today the best discussion of slavery starts with it was a product of an earlier less enlightened time and hardly unique to America. The mistake occurred by not being including all people in our standard of individual rights and liberties. We discuss the wrongs of the era in its proper context without the Marxist malfeasance of indict a civilization by its history. Oddly when I use this same technique
on communists they cry and do not have a clue how to respond.

Our nation does not have second class citizens. An American is a person with a shared set of ideals and values embodied in our founding documents. Thus one there is a wide difference between myself and Mr. B but we both respect the founding principles and respecting the give and take is within our traditions.

Communists typically describe themselves as "citizens of the planet". Their dogmatic replies and mania about nationalism are not American in spirit. Thus someone like the Duck may be born here but he wants to alter this country into EU#2. He has no respect for our traditions or the actual views of the people. In his opinion all of you are living a false consciousness because you reject his faith.

With these notes in hand, watching the exchanges between the Marxist Duck and a Nationalist liberal make more sense. Also remember that when I am discussing issues with Mr. Beamish, AOW or Warren on the right it is a different conversation.




21 comments:

Ducky's here said...

Beak, you talk real loud for someone who spent so much time kissing up to a freaking demented white supremacist.

Ducky's here said...

The mistake occurred by not being including all people in our standard of individual rights and liberties. We discuss the wrongs of the era in its proper context without the Marxist malfeasance of indict a civilization by its history. Oddly when I use this same technique
on communists they cry and do not have a clue how to respond.

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Beak, I'm trying to parse that with little luck. Man, you really need an editor.

Ducky's here said...

Cuba has one of the lowest incidences of AIDS in the world, what are you on about you ignoramus.

Ducky's here said...

I am not a Pole but it is apparent that some Polish and Ukranian blood is in my DNA and perhaps in the residents of Poland as well.

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Polish and Ukrainian DNA. You mean like the Polish race?

You been hanging out with the fool GayEagle and picking up his latest racial theories?

beakerkin said...

Here we go

A person who is clearly a bigot themselves should not point fingers at Yeagley. Yeagley may make some nasty comments about Blacks and you make them about Jews. Do you think your bigotry is OK because populist Jew hatred is a Marxist standard?

I walked away from the site while embracing American values. While I am embracing individual rights and liberties you are waxing mash notes to police states like Cuba.

The above comment makes sense. As a veteran Cold Warrior versed in commie tactics it has been my pleasure to turn commie tactics back on Commies themselves. The response of commies has been tears,
frustration and despair.

The secret is that I really could care less about the feelings of commies. I am not here to trade pleasantries with them. If a commie
is not upset or exasperated I haven't done my job as a Cold Warrior.

To be blunt you and your kind are evil. Social Justice would be to deport you to North Korea or Cuba and let you live like the locals.
With the exception of Madea Benjamin this usually works. In her case do note she did not surrender her citizenship.

Communism is really a mental and moral defect. However, every bad idea has its advocates. There were those who defended Slavery and Nazism long after history pronounced its verdict. You are a fossil, but haven't figured it out.

Maybe I should make a movie Trotskyite Zombie bigots from the Sociology Department would make a great comedy film.

beakerkin said...

Perfect

The Duck is endorsing the ends justify the means with AIDS. No doubt if Yeagley ever wrote a post about placing AIDS patients in minimum security prisons you would be screaming homophobe.

Trample individual rights for the common good. That is classic Marxist spin and predictable.

The clueless Duck has not deduced that as Jews lived in Poland for a long time there was plenty of mixed unions. There are plenty of Poles with a Jewish ancestor or two
and the converse.

beamish said...

A common rant of the Duck is complaining that freedom to most Americans is having 50 brands of Potato Chips to get obese. The reaction from the Patriotic Mr. B is who are you to determine what is best for America and pass the Barbecue Kettle Fried Chips.

You have it wrong, Beak.

Ducky's the guy trolling elderly gay hangouts looking for Grey Poupon.

Ducky's here said...

Ah, more petty homosexual gossip from Beamish. Generally a sign you don't think you have what it takes, Beamish.

Ducky's here said...

Beak, other than not believing allowing Likud to do whatever it pleases, can you point to my so called "antisemitic" statements?

I'd call myself a moderate on Israel. Secure 1967 borders which may have to be modified for defensive reasons and Jerusalem as capitol. Hardly out there.

Keep dancing, you called the racist pig Yeagley a friend and a brilliant man. Keep dancing.

Ducky's here said...

Wonder why the American press doesn't report this stuff.

Z said...

Ducky, why do you go there about gays in Cuba? All Beak did was mention the treatment of them there, he didn't say how many are there...are there NONE? You think it's due to their EXCELLENT health care? :-)

Beak, how's your cold? xx feel better

Ducky's here said...

Why,z? Because Beak is a liar, which is not unusual with him.

The early Cuban response to AIDS was controversial because people were quarantined. However, they were NOT jailed. The whole program was reported on the BBC and other news outlets.

The medical treatment they got was good quality. Much better than generally available in the Caribbean region, a region where there prevalence of AIDS is the highest in the world outside sub saharan Africa.

Beak needs to be reminded of the truth at times. Just as he needs reminding that while he lectures people about their shortcomings he was a devoted fan of a white supremacist.

beakerkin said...

Whoa Ducky

So it is okay to quarantine AIDS patients in what I called "soft prisons". Great so when someone proposes similar treatment in America they are homophobes.

Are you denying gays and political prisoners were sent to mental hospitals ? This is well documented and yet a product of Marxist deception.

beamish said...

You're right Ducky. I don't have what it takes to be gay. How do you do it so well?

beakerkin said...

Mr B.

You are clearly not gay.

What surprises me is that the Duck does not give the enlightened response. His friend Weasie used to call me gay and my response was is that the best you can do. Perhaps he is less enlightened than he presumes.

What type of God awful stereotypes would it take to qualify as gay.
Perhaps knowing what wine to serve
with lamb? Who needs wine crack a beer would probably earn lightning bolts in certain company and ruin any chance of being mistaken for Gay.

Owning anything in plaid other than a flannel shirt would probably earn some sort of not qualified to be gay. Admitting you like to wear bowling attire in public would not only do that but make you a social outcast in certain sections of Manhattan. Children would recoil in horror at the dreaded Bowling shirt and beer stained tacky jacket.

Don't try the bowling shirt bit in mixed company or around small kids.

beamish said...

For me, Ducky screams he's gay every time he references Godard. I'd guess he probably likes the movie "Breathless" a little too much.

Z said...

I don't get it, Ducky...it's okay for Cuba to have done that but you'd scream bloody murder were America to have done so? He said "Soft" prisons....where DID they quarantine them, the Ritz Havana?

Ducky's here said...

z, how the bleep do you know from Adam how I would have reacted? No, I wouldn't support the quarantine. But the fact is that Cuba did no worse than many and better than others.
Now if you are honest with yourself and since the left is involved you know you probably cannot be, you would admit your issue here is that it may not be possible to objectively give Cuba the harshest criticism. So don't give me the damn tone.

Here's the deal, Beak is a liar. The infected were not put in prison and Cuba has made a good deal more progress in gay human rights than a lot of countries in the Caribbean.

beakerkin said...

Progress yes when you treat gays like crap anything is an improvement.
Would you be screaming if Mr B even hinted about doing this in the USA.

You need to get over and stop defending the barbaric police state with BS health care and worn out cliches. Batista is gone 50 years and prostitution is rife under Marx.

beamish said...

I'd be happy if we could quarantine off the state of Massachussetts long enough for a heterosexual population to sprout there.

beamish said...

What do you call a male from Massachussetts that hasn't sucked a dick by the time he's 8 years old?

A Protestant.