Sunday, January 08, 2006

What is wrong with making entertaining films

Our friends in Hollywood have forgotten that they are in the entertainment business.
The problem is that they preach about the common man but have zero real connection with the common man. They Hollywood elite sit at their cocktail parties making films for each other rather then mass entertainment.

Hollywood should be run like any other business for proffit. It should also respect the customer you and I . There is an arrogance that pervades the entertainment industry . They tend to favor films like the Cider House rules over Shrek. The most important thing is for people to enjoy themselves and get value for their hard earned money.

Shrek, Monsters Inc, The Harry Potter Films and the Lord of the Rings series are the exceptions to the arrogance of Hollywood. There is alot of mediocrity out there and King Kong and Godzilla remakes are not exceptional.

The problem is that Hollywood has failed to respect the consumer. My nephew dragged me to the theatre as I am an uncle first. I have not felt there was a must see film since Shrek 2. I guess the accountants will have to tell the creative people the bottom line comes first.


Mr. Ducky said...

You don't get out much do you Beak? There are some good things going on in American film... Richard Smith, Gus van Sant, Richard Linklater and the Coen brothers are doing interesting, entertaining work. George Clooney has really hit stride. Nothing much is coming out of the Hollywood mega studios but that's been a waste land for some time.

Peter Jackson, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Quentin Tarantino must all die. Before they do we should have them return what they stole from Kurasowa and the French Noveau Vague.

Just look around're in New York City, you can find good films.

Remember that terrific scene in Godard's "Band of Outsiders" when....never mind.

beakerkin said...

No thanks Duck I will pass on Hollywood for now. I prefer books and when Hollywood puts entertainment first I might return

Robert Bayn said...

The day i think "Shrek" is a must see movie, is the day i quit going to the movie theatre.

beakerkin said...


Shrek was a great film and it was what films should be entertaining.
Films should be fun and relaxing and that was the magic that Hollywood has forgotten . I like the big green guy.

Robert Bayn said...

That's one opinion of what a good movie is, not everyones though, movie theaters should have a broad appeal for everyone, not just the "kiddy" movies.

beakerkin said...


I hate to say it but the Kiddie films have not forgotten the entertainment factor. It was well written and a fun for adults as well. I go to a film to be entertained . If Hollywood wants to make art flicks fine but the money is in entertainment.

Always On Watch said...

I usually don't like animated films, but at the insistence of my cousin, I watched Shrek on DVD. I loved it!

Robert Bayn said...

I never seen Shrek so i cant say if it is good or not, but i dont usually go for the kiddie films, in fact i don't like most movies.

Kyle said...

I have seen a few really good movies, "Serenity" was a science fiction flick with intellegence and heart. "Walk the Line was one of the best biopics I have ever seen. Of course I would never bother with ham-handed political crap like Syriana, Bareback Mountain, or Munich. And very few comedies are really funny anymore. But there are some pearls among the dross.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I stopped going to movies when Hollywood decided we needed to see TV shows from the 1980s made into movies.

samwich said...

Hollywood is just another ad agency.
Movies are made to influence public opinion and find out marketing and political marketing information.

The movie "Pearl" was more a marketing survey than entertainment.

The desired information was "if the US is attacked will the people support war".

We would, it was, and we are at war. The military industrial credit card is close to maxed out now.

Syriana is another marketing survey. The desired information is how do we, the little nobody public, feel about the bad guys and what action will the public support and pay for.

Get a book about punctuation.


Always On Watch said...

I very rarely go to the theater. I wait for films to come out on video or to appear on cable.

The last time I went to the theater was to see Spielberg's The War of the Worlds. I wanted to see the special effects on the big screen. I don't have a big-screen TV or surround sound here at home. This house, built in 1940, is crammed as it is, and the configuration of the room isn't conducive to technology. Too few electrical outlets, too.

Samwich: The movie "Pearl" was more a marketing survey than entertainment.

The desired information was "if the US is attacked will the people support war".

I'm guessing that years before Pearl even came out, movies were made to influence public opinion.

Mr. Ducky said...

AOW, I'm curious if you have seen Robert bresson's, au hasard Balthazar. A lot of film buffs considered it the DVD release of 2005. It had not been previously available in America.

He's a director like Pasolini who can't quite lose his spiritual, even biblical, pinnings.

The film concerns he life and death of a donkey, nothing more. At the same time it conveys the terrible burden of shouldering the world's sins.

Doesn't need special effects and it is quite capable of moving the soul. I am quite serious when I say it is a film that you and your students might well wish to critique. You simply can't watch it and not be moved.

Robert Bayn said...

The last time I went to the theater was to see Spielberg's The War of the Worlds.

I actually watched the orginal version of War Of The Worlds last night, i thought it was pretty good, my mate has many of the classic films, but he seen the new War of the Worlds too, i have not seen it yet, but he said it was good.

beakerkin said...

There is a musical version of War of the Worlds with Richard Burton and Justin Heyward of the Moody Blues. It was a great album except I wanted the aliens to devour Liz Taylor or Visa versa sigh.

drummaster2001 said...

there are great movies out there that weren't high budget.

recommended movie- 'Pi'. this independent film is about an hour and a half long. the story is great, although it has somewhat outdated parts (it was made approx the time the whole Y2K thing was going on). in order to understand some points of the film, i suggest you read the 'Allegory of the Cave' by Plato. i also suggest you watch the film more than once. if you get the DVD version, there is a comic on it which also explains some of the things in the movie.