Monday, January 23, 2006

Drugs and Child Abuse RX For Disatater

I have scanned the NYC papers in the latest case of Child abuse death Nixmary Brown.
The camily consisted of six children and there are a variety of unanswered questions in the case. The media has not asked obvious questions.

1 Where are the fathers of these children ?
2 How did this huge family support itself ?
3 Was there any hint of drug abuse in the household ?

There is quite often a tie between drug abuse and severe child abuse. This was certainly the case in the Lisa Stienberg case and in several others. The case in NJ where a family starved their kids was a unique case that did not involve drugs.

The child advocates focus on guns but drug abuse is the real danger to children. This may sound draconian but case workers should be required to send parents under investigation for drug testing. This is just as important as checking for drunk drivers. Parenting under the influence of heroin is not a right. Childrens safety comes before a right to abuse drugs.

Coming up tonight
Beaker in the Militia ?

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

C'mon beak,

We all know that nobody in this country is EVER going to fund a scientific study that proves the degeneracy of drug abuse correlates with the degeneracy of child abuse...

Or any other social study that reflects "negatively" on liberal sacred cows, for that matter.

The neo-liberal credo - "Hold no one responsible for their own actions, unless of course, that person is a conservative" prevents objective analyses.

Self-esteem uber alles!

-FJ

beakerkin said...

I am sure the Duck will stop by and say there is no relationship between child abuse and drugs.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

FJ,

A UC-Berkeley psychological study concluded a few years ago that conservatives are in fact insane.

Remember this when they try to sentence you to death for trying to thwart social decay.

Anonymous said...

Hey, the KGB used to send their hardcore political dissidents to mental hospitals instead of the gulags. Gave them a chance to pronounce them "certifiably nuts", drug 'em up, and perform a little "shock therapy" to try and rehabilitate (LOL!) them.

-FJ

bum said...

NBC-4 did address two of the three questions a week and a half ago. They were unsure of where the father was and possible drug abuse is an inquiry of the current ongoing investigation.

Warren said...

Elijah, we pretty much know who is who. Although the last post is somewhat out of character for FJ.

He might have been in a hurry.

Whatever, if it was an imposter, FJ will come along and tell us.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Looks to me like Canada is dumping the liberals and leftists in government and getting a leg up on joining the 21st Century politically. Good on 'em.

beakerkin said...

I think that was the real Farmer John . Farmer John has a variety of styles.

Bum From Jersey the fact that one kid was singled out argues against drugs. Nixmary's father is the subject of some speculation. The public is entitled to answers and the media failed.

Dan Zaremba said...

Hold no one responsible for their own actions, unless of course, that person is a conservative
This seems to be the case in Oz as well.
Good old socialist mindset.

Esther said...

Felis, that does seem to be the case these days.

Anonymous said...

I fess up. It was me.
Example of what I was talking about

-FJ

Anonymous said...

Funny...the original link I just posted said the following...

The Medvedev brothers were born in 1925, the twin sons of a philosophy professor, a Communist party member who died in one of Stalin's prison camps.

...I found it comic," Roy Medvedev quotes Sakharov as saying, "but of course I know it's not very funny for people who land up in a mental hospital after being diagnosed like that...

...It is the story of Zhores's forcible confinement in a psychiatric hospital because of the authorities' interest in his books on Lysenko and scientific cooperation and in his friendship with Solzhenitsyn...

...Zhores notes later that two famous individuals "suffered" much more than he did from this syndrome...

...He thought the protests might persuade thousands of mentally-ill citizens not to go to Soviet psychiatrists...

...On the second count, Medvedev draws a devastating sketch of needless backwardness and inept management in Soviet science...

...A Question of Madness is both easier to read and more compelling...

...Local party and secret-police officials apparently moved against Zhores as part of a campaign against ideologically "unreliable" scientists in Obninsk, a city of many scientific establishments...

...This may explain Medvedev's ultimate release, for when the central authorities are of a single mind and are determined to put political offenders into psychiatric facilities, they do so...

...But A Question of Madness apparently reinforced tose fears: in October, Izvestia published a long article asserting that Soviet psychiatry was esteemed everywhere and denying that mentally healthy people were detained in psychiatric hospitals because of their dissident activities...

...Because of the very diversity of his talents, he is charged with being abnormal, a 'split personality.' His very sensitivity to injustice, to stupidity, is presented as a 'morbid deviation,' 'poor adaptation to the social environment.' Apparently, to harbor thoughts other than those which are prescribed means that you are abnormal...

...He also warned Andrei Sakharov, the nuclear physicist and human-rights champion, about "obsessive reformist delusions...

...Marxists both, they are a long way from the radical critics of the Soviet regime described most often in articles in the Western press about Moscow dissidents...

...Some of the higher authorities in Moscow backed the Obninsk authorities, but others-perhaps including the headquarters of the KGB-did not...

...A. V. Snezhnevsky, chief psychiatrist of the USSR Ministry of Health, and secretary of the Academy of Medical Sciences, was very upset by the public protests of Medvedev's friends, which were reported by Western correspondents in Moscow and broadcast back to millions of Soviet listeners by the BBC, the Voice of America, and Radio Liberty...

...The book mentions this incident but omits the reply of academicians Pyotr Kapitsa and Vladimir Engelgardt, who suggested that Morozov be awarded a Lenin prize for discovering something new in psychopathology-the "Leonardo da Vinci" syndrome...

...SOVIET psychiatric incompetence was demonstrated in the first place when a local doctor claimed he was justified in trying to hospitalize Zhores after a twenty-minute conversation, ostensibly about his son, in the office of the mayor of Obninsk...

...Testimony from such dissident-inmates as Pyotr Grigorenko and Vladimir Bukovsky has shown the perversions of science that are enacted in order to accomplish this aim, and A Question of Madness deals with these aspects too in a relatively cool final analysis...

...Incompetence was demonstrated continuously, right up to the point when G. Morozov, a Moscow expert, told some of the bestknown Soviet scientists that Zhores was a schizophrenic because he wrote books about political subjects although he was a biologist by profession...

...It is the story of Zhores's forcible confinement in a psychiatric hospital because of the authorities' interest in his books on Lysenko and scientific cooperation and in his friendship with Solzhenitsyn...


Hmmm, they seem to have "dynamic" content...

-FJ

Anonymous said...

Funny...the original link I just posted said the following...

The Medvedev brothers were born in 1925, the twin sons of a philosophy professor, a Communist party member who died in one of Stalin's prison camps.

...I found it comic," Roy Medvedev quotes Sakharov as saying, "but of course I know it's not very funny for people who land up in a mental hospital after being diagnosed like that...

...It is the story of Zhores's forcible confinement in a psychiatric hospital because of the authorities' interest in his books on Lysenko and scientific cooperation and in his friendship with Solzhenitsyn...

...Zhores notes later that two famous individuals "suffered" much more than he did from this syndrome...

...He thought the protests might persuade thousands of mentally-ill citizens not to go to Soviet psychiatrists...

...On the second count, Medvedev draws a devastating sketch of needless backwardness and inept management in Soviet science...

...A Question of Madness is both easier to read and more compelling...

...Local party and secret-police officials apparently moved against Zhores as part of a campaign against ideologically "unreliable" scientists in Obninsk, a city of many scientific establishments...

...This may explain Medvedev's ultimate release, for when the central authorities are of a single mind and are determined to put political offenders into psychiatric facilities, they do so...

...But A Question of Madness apparently reinforced tose fears: in October, Izvestia published a long article asserting that Soviet psychiatry was esteemed everywhere and denying that mentally healthy people were detained in psychiatric hospitals because of their dissident activities...

...Because of the very diversity of his talents, he is charged with being abnormal, a 'split personality.' His very sensitivity to injustice, to stupidity, is presented as a 'morbid deviation,' 'poor adaptation to the social environment.' Apparently, to harbor thoughts other than those which are prescribed means that you are abnormal...

...He also warned Andrei Sakharov, the nuclear physicist and human-rights champion, about "obsessive reformist delusions...

...Marxists both, they are a long way from the radical critics of the Soviet regime described most often in articles in the Western press about Moscow dissidents...

...Some of the higher authorities in Moscow backed the Obninsk authorities, but others-perhaps including the headquarters of the KGB-did not...

...A. V. Snezhnevsky, chief psychiatrist of the USSR Ministry of Health, and secretary of the Academy of Medical Sciences, was very upset by the public protests of Medvedev's friends, which were reported by Western correspondents in Moscow and broadcast back to millions of Soviet listeners by the BBC, the Voice of America, and Radio Liberty...

...The book mentions this incident but omits the reply of academicians Pyotr Kapitsa and Vladimir Engelgardt, who suggested that Morozov be awarded a Lenin prize for discovering something new in psychopathology-the "Leonardo da Vinci" syndrome...

...SOVIET psychiatric incompetence was demonstrated in the first place when a local doctor claimed he was justified in trying to hospitalize Zhores after a twenty-minute conversation, ostensibly about his son, in the office of the mayor of Obninsk...

...Testimony from such dissident-inmates as Pyotr Grigorenko and Vladimir Bukovsky has shown the perversions of science that are enacted in order to accomplish this aim, and A Question of Madness deals with these aspects too in a relatively cool final analysis...

...Incompetence was demonstrated continuously, right up to the point when G. Morozov, a Moscow expert, told some of the bestknown Soviet scientists that Zhores was a schizophrenic because he wrote books about political subjects although he was a biologist by profession...

...It is the story of Zhores's forcible confinement in a psychiatric hospital because of the authorities' interest in his books on Lysenko and scientific cooperation and in his friendship with Solzhenitsyn...


Hmmm, they seem to have "dynamic" content...

-FJ

Anonymous said...

ooops. Sorry for the double post.

-FJ