Thursday, August 04, 2005

Palmiero should use the Clinton defense

Congressman Waxman now thinks perjury is a crime. If Bill Clinton could go lie in a legal proceeding and go unpunished so should Palmiero. The lame Democrat talking point was it was only about sex. Sex between a supervisor and a subordinate is grounds for termination. The question was asked in the frame work of a sexual harassment investigation. It is quite apparent that a pattern of behavior did exsist.
The silence of the liberals and the NOW gang was deafining.

Who did Mr Palmiero hurt other then himself. Baseball is a game an sexual harassment is far more serious then steriod use. If President Clinton was entitled to a zone of privacy then so is Mr Palmiero.

The first thing Palmiero should do Is say I did not have sex with that woman. I had the steroids but I didn't inject them. It depends on the meaning of the word is. Let Hillary cast the first stone of hypocrisy.

Palmiero should be suspended by baseball and the subject dropped. I do not need lectures from the Democrats on perjury or that baseball players are role models. Bill
Clinton lowered the bar on deviance enough for one lifetime.


drummaster2001 said...

LMAO. i still can't believe Clinton said 'it depends what the meaning of is is.' you know all the other good Clinton-isms

as for Palmeiro, i think it is funny as hell to see the repeats of his testimony in Congress. the sad part is, this whole thing makes Jose Canseco look more credible. bet you never thought Canseco and credible would be in the same sentence, except when listing antonyms.

at least Giambi apologized his mistake (without really saying what the mistake was). and because he did that, people seem to like him better.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

"Ahm tryin' ta dew hawrd thangs" is probably my favorite Clinton quote.

Not sure if he was refering to pushing Monica's spare tire uphill to cut his cigar at the time though.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I hate baseball. You stand there alone holding a sturdy wooden cudgel against nine other guys while one of them throws a ball at you, and they throw you out of the game if you smite any of them. Equipment like that should create cranial injuries. But it doesn't. The most dangerous thing going on down there on the field is a guy chomping on a plug of tobacco, and even that takes too long to cause injuries.

What kind of sport is that?

beakerkin said...

Mr Beamish I like football but I played both. Baseball is fun but lets get real it is a game. Sexual harassment is a crime. I hope talk radio replays Waxmans quotes about Clinton. Maybe he should sing Blue Stained Dress.

Always On Watch said...

Mr. Beamish,
Your favorite Clinton quote made me howl.

We have a small point of disagreement here. I love baseball! But that's only because my father was into the sport, and baseball was the only sport he cared much about. He had a good reason for loving baseball, though: my father turned down a pitching job with the NY Yankees because--get this--he didn't want to sleep in a strange bed. Back in the late 1920's or early 1930's, a NY Yankees scout spotted my Dad playing sandlot baseball; my Dad was the closing pitcher for his local-league games, which were games between some pretty tough farmers and other blue-collar workers. BTW, my Dad, a man of few words as I pointed out over at your blog, didn't much talk about my father's offer from the Yankees; his brothers and sisters let me know when I was doing a school project called "My Family Tree," and Dad told me his reason for turning down the Yankees when I questioned him about the story. He never spoke of it again, though I could occasionally coax from him interesting and personal observations related to Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, and Ty Cobb.

Baseball isn't what it used to be. And I do agree, Mr. Beamish, that it's one slooowww game to watch from the stands. Some are chewing tobacco, but most have given that up for chewing gum.

Always On Watch said...

You took the words right out of my mouth: " If Bill Clinton could go lie in a legal proceeding and go unpunished so should Palmiero."

Raffy is not the only baseball player to have a substance problem. Baseball should be unforgiving toward those players who ingest what they shouldn't according to the rules.

If Raffy is guilty of perjury, so is Slick Willie.

drummaster2001 said...

i did a report on lou gehrig. the man was class on and off the field, and was rightfully the first person honored in the Yankee's memorial park. i hold him in higher regard than the Babe now.

bum from jersey said...

why is sexual harrasment more deterimental than steroid use? personally, i think sexual harrassment is an overused term just like depression is.

the issue isn't just that he used steorids but that he lied under oath. for me, whether you lie about a stolen piece of bread or a murder, if you do it under oath its lying all the same, so why shouldn't it be treated in the same way?

Warren said...

Bum from Jersey,
You are right about purjury, (lets make that distinction). To prove that Palmiero is guilty of purgery, you must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he had used steroids before he gave the testimony.

[sarcasm]I mean, after all... everyone lies about steroids. Its just steroids![/sarcasm]

The reason so many people bring up the sexual harasment issue is that Clinton trumpeted a federal law that defines sexual harasment so broadly that any superior that has sex or makes advances toward a subordinate is guilty of sexual harasment. He was clearly guilty of breaking that law.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

I guess I lost interest in major league baseball back in the 1980s, during one of the player's "labor" strikes, when they determined for themselves that making an average American's weekly paycheck income everytime they pitch a ball in a game wasn't enough. That's also around the time television begin broadcasting images of games surrounded by near-empty stadiums. I was not alone in turning my back on "America's favorite pastime." Until major league baseball players recant their exhorbitant salaries, their outrageous baseball ticket prices, buy their stadia with their own funding or private investments, send every American a personal letter apologizing for sucking so bad, and bring me Polaroids of Satan building snow forts in Hell, I'm afraid I've got no use for them.

Neptune said...

Mark McGuire in effect took the Fifth Amendment at the Congressional Hearing.
When he was asked about his steroid use, he answered by saying " I didn't come here today to talk about the past".
The chairman of the committee let him get away with it.The chairman should have said : You may not want to talk about the past, but that's why we're here today. Either answer the question or invoke the Fifth Amendment.

I find it ironic that Pete Rose is banned from the Hall of Fame, for betting on Baseball. If Rose had been sitting at the table at that hearing, he would have been the most honest man there, including Bud Selig.

drummaster2001 said...

pete rose's chance of getting in the hall of fame were higher when bud "worthless" selig became commissioner because he was a fan of his. all they (mlb officials) wanted him to do was confess to them his betting on baseball. he did confess, but instead of doing it at an mlb comissioner's meeting or something, he did it in a book, which he did for $$. that is most likely the nail in the coffin for him, although pete rose was hands down one of the best players in the history of the game and should be in cooperstown.

Always On Watch said...

Mr. Beamish,
You're right about the salaries and the strike. My father had fits over the strike.

Another downfall of baseball has been the dysfunction of the farm system. I can barely keep track of the rosters any longer.

unaha-closp said...

Baseball is too boring to provide entertainment when sober and the game too short to provide a decent drinking venue.

Cricket is much better.