Saturday, July 29, 2006

Anyone can be a bigot

One of the more amusing things about those on the far left is that they think they are above bigotry. The self righteous apologists for a failed philosopher whose accolytes excell only in bringing human misery and treason need a good look in the mirror. They will work themselves into a frenzy at every utterance of Falwell, Robertson and rationalize every Islamic and Commie thug on the planet.

The great myth on the left is that protected classes can not be bigots. Most of us have read enough Uptown Steve to know he is a Commie anti semite who happens to be black. Many of you think that Uptown is your standard black anti semite. Remember he jumps through hoops to defend Commie finks Paul Robeson and Michael Lerner. His basic lines are garbled Marcuse based victim theories. For all his talk about fighting racism he is a phony. When a genuine KKK clown named Alan showed up at FPM Uptown said zero even when the clown compared blacks to Apes. Many FPMs nailed this clown including Tricky Blaine, Mike and Fiona but Uptown was silent. He also says zero when John Brown and Ducky use anti black rhetoric on conservatives. The reason is Uptown is a Red who happens to be black.

I have just read 167's personal blog and he is just low class personified. The truth is that gay men like 167 and his hero Simon " Crank Dot Net " Jones are certainly bigots. The fact that they are gay does not make the vile anti semitism that both spew any less evil. I do note that most gay men are well adjusted people with different tastes. The whole issue boils down to class and dignity. Most of us run G rated blogs. When Jeff Bargholz or Mr Beanish break into profanity on rare blue moons we go to PG 13. Talking about bodily functions and equipment are just low class. Does the audience really need to know 167 proclivities and tastes in men. Most gay people are not cartoon charachers like 167 and Simon Jones. There are gay people who watch pro sports including football and Nascar.

Bigotry comes in all colors and even in alternative lifestyles. I do want to point out this Jew has never experienced any antisemism from Christians. The vast preponderance of anti semitic incedents in my life involve far left types. The majority of Muslims were nowhere near the incoherent foaming at the mouth bigotry of John Brown or 167.The average Muslim in this country wants to earn a living but we still must be vigilant. The notion of a decent Communist is fiction and we should heap as much abuse on them as KKK clowns.

Beamish in 08

38 comments:

MissingLink said...

The fact that they are gay does not make the vile anti semitism that both spew any less evil.

Hey, Ernst Röhm and the whole top of SA was homosexual.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Infamous German leftist Adolf Hitler was himself a fudge-packing pole smoking faggot and meth addict.

Like many leftists today.

MissingLink said...

Beak,
No doubt that there were also many victims of Nazi social experiment different than the ETHNIC Jews.
This is beside the point.
Nazis deliberately focused their homicidal aparatus to finish off the entire Jewish race - I stress RACE.
Not Jewish religion but race - ethnic group of people.
This is racism in the most extreme form, for you cannot escape from your ethnicity. You can change your religion but you cannot change your ethnicity.
Even Islam gives the Jewish Kaffir an obtion - submit and you may live.
Nazism did not have this escape route for the Jews at all.
In fact I knew some families in Poland, who converted to Catholicism a few generetions before WWII but this fact still did not help some members of those families at all.
They perished.

Justin said...

Beak:

Being Gay I think I can add something to this area.

When anyone talks of the holocaust the main thing they need to do is be truthful and know what they are talking about.

There are known numbers and unknown numbers of people killed in the concentration camps.

The number 6,000,000 jews killed is a fact because the Nazis kept exact records of this. Every Jew killed was a badge of honor for the Nazis. The other groups are in the hundreds of thousands. But I dare say a far cry from millions.

The number of Gays killed will never be known because they were lumped in with the other hundreds of thousands ie: Gypsies,Slav's etc. There is no exact number known because these people were not jews (and Jews held prominence in the extermination scenario for the Nazis.)

The Jews did not have to steal the holocaust the figures are there in black and white written by the very people who were out to exterminate them. The rest well, they were just incedental groups that needed to be done away with but not with the fan fair and record keeping as with "KILLING THE JEWS."

To say a gay person cannot be biggoted or racisit is about as laughable as saying a Skunk with out a stink gland is not a Skunk.

I can truthfully say I have had more bigotry and hatred directed at me by some gay people and groups because I am a conservative gay. I do not let groups like Act Up or people like 167 represent me and my views. These people and the people we in the gay community call flamers (the ones you see most in the news during gay pride parades.) These people do more harm to the acceptance of gays in the main stream than they help.

Most of us are more accepted by the mainstream because we do not live,eat,sleep,and spew the hatred that these groups do. We take pride in the fact that we are Americans living in a Free America that for the biggest part lets us live our lives as we believe we should. We do not flaunt the fact that we are gay in the face of our friends.

The people I work for and the people I work with know I am gay and they have no problem with it. They accept me as me and I have to chuckle when I am told well geeez you dont look or act gay. I just laugh and say well geeez you dont look or act hetro. I have often wondered just how gays and hetros are supposed to act.

Just remember there are all types of bigots. Gay,Black,Brown,Red,Yellow and I wouldnt even be suprised if there werent a few purple ones.

Am I biggoted? "You Betcha" I am. We all are in many different degrees bigoted or rascist. No one is immune from it.

My philosophy that guides me is simple.

"To thine ownself be true. Then as the day must follow the night to no man canst thou be false." Good words to live by.

Sorry Beak but ya got me going on this one.

Kyle said...

The nazis also killed nearly half a million Gypsies, for some reason we rarely hear about it. But it doesn't matter, We know the Nazis were bad, but the commies killed way more people. Like nearly five or six times more.
Nazis/skinheads/communist/progressives/
islamofacists/wahabists. Its all the same thing. People ready and willing to murder in order to gain and hold power over others. No real difference.

Always On Watch said...

Sending this again, just to be sure. Blogger "burped."

Beak,
Bigotry comes in all colors and even in alternative lifestyles. I do want to point out this Jew has never experienced any antisemism from Christians. The vast preponderance of anti semitic incedents in my life involve far left types.

There are Christians who are anti-Semitic, as you're well aware. But in my experience, most Christians aren't.

The average Muslim in this country wants to earn a living but we still must be vigilant.

I'd still like to see average Muslims take a stand against Islamofascism. The UAC has been trying to find those Muslims. None have come forward--not even one!

I understand that fear can freeze people into inaction, but the matter now is so very serious. And donations to those mosques or other organizations which fund terrorism comes from "average Muslims" too, as there has been no organized reformation-movement in Islam.

I hate to say this, but it's true. One of the "average Muslims" whom I knew as a neighbor turned out not to be so moderate. He voiced strong support of Saddam Hussein and was virulently anti-Semitic; he attended, BTW, the "9/11 mosque" here in the D.C. area, and I think he underwent a "revival" there. Another "average Muslim," a real-estate agent, refused to deliver my contract with a check attached because I was teaching homeschool classes in a church. His words: "I can't come into that building." Both of these "average Muslims" of whom I'm speaking were three-piece-suit guys.

So, vigilance is key.

beakerkin said...

Felis

You are 100% correct as the Nazis did have an insane race mania. Jews themselves do have genetic links but come in all racial groups.

The evidence of Hitlers being gay is murky. However we do know way too many details about his life such as his fondness for Bowery Boys films. This does not imply that gayness, vegetarianism or love of Mugs Mcguiness makes one a homocidal nut.

Justin your observation about certain gays taking more heat for being Conservative then gay matches what my friends in the Log Cabin Republicans describe. The problem is that Marcuse based victims theory claims to speak for many minorities.

The truth is that I know plenty of gays in NYC who are well adjusted.
They don't run around in a self righteous froth and spread hate towards Jews or Christians. Many are quite classy and take part in mundane hobbies that one would never associate with gay people such as bowling and deep sea fishing.

The problem with the far left is that it tries to define authenticity. The far left tries in vain to push far left Rabbis as authentic but Marx and Judaism are akin to oil and water. However, this bigotry is not exclusive to Jews, Gays or Blacks. Far left critics also point their finger at Dr David Yeagley ( Native American) and claim he is inauthentic.

The notion that the accolytes of Marx are the sole arbiters of authenticity is a joke. This would presume that a propensity to cause human misery would give one some expertise. The accolytes of Marx are only experts in failure, death, treason and deception.

Always On Watch said...

Justin makes good points, both about the Holocaust and about gays not being immune from bigotry.

I have a friend whose family perished in the Holocaust because they had "gypsy blood." Supposedly.

And some years ago, I had a run-in with a "militant lesbian," the daughter of one of our best friends. She harassed me, both politically and with regard to my sexual preference. I nearly had to change my phone number to get her to stop calling. At the time, I'd been married over 7 years. And, of course, I had given her no reason to think I was interested in her lifestyle. All I had done was be courteous to her in large social gatherings. The whole scenario later was weird. She must have had a hang-up, or something. I've never known any other gay to behave in such a manner.

Justin said...

AOW:

Sorry I am chuckeling a little bit here at your experience. While I am sure it was uncomfortable for you to deal with I can only equate it with some of my experiences.

Your friends daughter probably decided that if she could land you she could change you to what she wanted. It is not ucommon for gay men to have to deal with women who feel that if they just get this man in bed he will change forever. And yes it does get a bit scary in some ways with the phone calls and uncomfortable face to face meetings. It is even worse when one of these people work in the same office as you.

I had one woman who continually called making suggestive overtures. She seemed to know everywhere I went and justtttt happened to show up.

People need to understand both Hetro and Gay if a person does not have a proclivity for a certain life style then back off and leave them alone other than just friend ship. There are so many ways to know how a person is orientated with out thinking it is your duty to change this persons way of life.

To do any more only causes a deepining in the misunderstandings of both life styles thus becoming a breeding ground for mistrust,hate, and yes even bigotry.

Anonymous said...

AOW,

you are probably what her vision of a Lesbian was. A strong, intelligent, good looking... woman.

She most likely was so indocrinated she simply couldn't believe that you WEREN'T on her "team"!!

Mr. Ducky said...

Beak, did you see the cover of this week's Economist?

"Israel Stuck in Lebanon".

It's that obvious already and we have Fried Rice trying to find someone in the Middle East who would talk to her. She's something, huh? Useless and the crazy right touts her as a presidential candidate.

Nice move killing the 40 kids, Beak. Folks aren't buying the "precision" munitions argument after that one.

Damn fool israelis really thought it would be a cakewalk. Another "Mission Accomplished" moment. Well, didn't work out did it.

You know, if I were a symphetic to Iran as you claim, I'd support every move the idiot ham-fisted Israelis make because iran is just laughing. Getting stronger all the time and the great irony is that they'll boost gasoline prices and we'll end up sending them just as much as we send Israel in welfare checks.

Killing 40 kids is real bad PR, Beak.

nanc said...

i love men! almost all of them - one of my gay male friends once told me words to this affect, "if i'd known you years ago i may not have chosen to be gay." hmmmmm...

bigoted - yes, but only in certain areas. self-inflicted stupidity has no place in the world. some very educated people have this malady.

Mr. Ducky said...

Beak, did you catch Mel Gibson's anti-semitic tirade while being arrested. Wow, did he let loose.

I look forward to you asking the fans of his motion picture which turned the crucificion into a homoerotic sadomasochistic festival whether or not they denounce that portrayal of the jews as "christ killers".

I have to bring this one up since the film is one of their favorites and they always hold the anti-semitism at arms length.

Justin said...

nanc:
I wonder about your friend and his statement that he would not have chosen to be gay. You know this a person chooses to be gay is one of the biggest myths there is.

Does one really think that any person would choose to be gay knowing they are going to face the hate and discrimination heaped upon them by ignorant people.

If a person chooses to be gay then I have to say they have a much deeper problem that should be addressed. I dont know of one gay person that chose to be gay most of us are this way and that is the way it is.

Being gay is no more a choice than being hetro-sexual is.

Justin said...

Duckbrain:

Your total ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

"Nice move killing the 40 kids, Beak. Folks aren't buying the "precision" munitions argument after that one."

Your right it is a nice move only it is on the part of the animals you support.

You just cant admit that Hezbollah is a pack of cowards that use women and children as shields.

I notice that you left out that the news reported these children were handi-capped. Could that be why hezbolla put them up for sacrifice?

Killing 40 kids real good move on your cowardly hero's parts Ducky boy.

I think this shows you have about as much cognictive brain power as a duck. However, I dont think even the ducks would admit you to their club.

Pehaps your name implies more about you than you admit. You probably are the type just like your hezbollah heros that would shoot and "duck" behind a child or a pregnant woman hoping your adversary wouldnt shoot. Real brave soldier there Ducky.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Having been born without genetic defects and having not been raised in a psychologically damaging environment, I've no idea what turns gay people on. I'm not wired to tell people what is homoerotic about a crucifixion. Could you elaborate, Ducky?

Justin said...

Beak do you think Duck brain can explain the U.N. offices in Beruit being attacked this morning and then this evening the U.N. offices are attacked in Gaza.

A coincedence Im sure in his mind or Im sure Israel sent them in to attack the buildings.

It sounds to me like hammas and hezbollah are doing a lot of co-ordinating here.

Russet Shadows said...

I don't think that people actually believe that Christianty teaches folks to kill Jews because the Jewish leaders arranged for Christ's crucifixion. I don't know a single Christian that thinks this. But this is standard fare on the Muslim left. How is it that only the Left knows what Christianity is and what it teaches, so much so that they need to instruct Christians to keep it in line? Seriously, what the hey? I don't want to go into the whole theological argument, but suffice to say that Christ taught the disciples to turn the other cheek. Christians do likewise. (I too am curious as to what's homoerotic about a crucifixion. It was a particularly public and painful method of execution in the ancient Roman world reserved for the worst of criminals. The only sexual attraction for dying men comes from the minds of serial killers and other sociopaths. Is that what you are, Ducky?)

Russet Shadows said...

I don't think that people actually believe that Christianty teaches folks to kill Jews because the Jewish leaders arranged for Christ's crucifixion. I don't know a single Christian that thinks this. But this is standard fare on the Muslim left. How is it that only the Left knows what Christianity is and what it teaches, so much so that they need to instruct Christians to keep it in line? Seriously, what the hey? I don't want to go into the whole theological argument, but suffice to say that Christ taught the disciples to turn the other cheek. Christians do likewise. (I too am curious as to what's homoerotic about a crucifixion. It was a particularly public and painful method of execution in the ancient Roman world reserved for the worst of criminals. The only sexual attraction for dying men comes from the minds of serial killers and other sociopaths. Is that what you are, Ducky?)

Russet Shadows said...

Oh, one more thing. :) Of all the rightists that I know, I can count one who may be a bigot. Of all the leftists I know, a good half of them are bigots. This includes folks IRL and on the web, friends of friends and so forth. The left has always had a problem with treating people as people, instead of marionettes for their cause du jour.

Anonymous said...

So, Che Sucky Ducky,

If the Iranians had a missile complete with nuclear warhead ready to launch at Paris, and had surrounded it with babies, little girls and old people, would you have the BALLS to push the button on the smart weapon to destroy it before it was launched??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU PITIFUL MORON!!!!!

Anonymous said...

justin,

I have to admit that there DO appear to be a VERY FEW people who are avowedly gender oriented DIFFERENT from their physical sex.

Are you one of these?

Most gays are RECRUITED when an impressionable age or have just made a lifestyle choice that is so FULFILLING to them that they insist they are MADE that way.

MissingLink said...

Guys,
Just check this one out:
http://www.yale.edu/isps/seminars/antisemitism/kaplan.pdf

Priceless - almost unreal but it comes from Yale.

Oh and please have a look at these innocent Pali kids (Some of them are probably already killed by the cruel Israelis):
http://democracyfrontline.org/blog/?p=919

MissingLink said...

Justin,
It sounds to me like hammas and hezbollah are doing a lot of co-ordinating here.
Please do not forget the UN top brass to be included.

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

The IDF strike at Qana was tragic.

Hours of profitable pay-per-view entertainment that could have been filmed - the bomb dropping, the building exploding, maimed Hezbollah children screaming for their Hezbollah parents' god to save them through choking Hezbollah sobs - this is fucking hilarious shit and now the moment's wasted.

The Merry Widow said...

Actually Beaker, unless specifically told not to fight, I would not pay extortion! I'm just not very good dhimmi material! And I sure wouldn't kowtow to their evil belief system! I'm more likely to tell them the truth about their quasi-religious political movement! Probably get myself shot, I'd still have my say!


tmw

Justin said...

Mr. B as one who alos was born with out any genetic defects or being raised in a physocological damaging environment, I myself do not see how Ducky found the crucifixiton homoerotic or a sadomasochistic festival as he says.

I think he is eluding to the fact that he would have given anything to be the one the Romans were torturing and crucifying. I understand that there are people like that both gay and straight that love having pain inflicted upon them.

Perhaps Ducky could enlighten us as just how seeing a man being scourged in such a manner would arouse the sexual desires he expressed and tried to lay at the feet of others. After all I did not hear one voice say as we left the theater say "Wow that was just so homoerotic and masochistic.

Always On Watch said...

Justin,
Your friends daughter probably decided that if she could land you she could change you to what she wanted.

I think that was the case. My husband wasn't too pleased. Phone calls kept coming at, um, inconvenient times. Hehehe.

Also, this particular woman could not be friends with other women. As far as I know, she still has that problem.

Anonymous,
you are probably what her vision of a Lesbian was. A strong, intelligent, good looking... woman.

Maybe.

I wasn't bad looking in my 20s. **blush**

Beak,
I see an avatar!!!

longrange said...

Well, its a good thing that Hezbolla isn't pealing apples on the news, Ducky might cry.

Always On Watch said...

Duck,
I just knew that you'd be all over the Mel Gibson story. Yes, I'm disappointed in him. But on the other hand, "all we like sheep have gone astray."

Alcoholism is ugly. I've dealt with it in my own family. The story is too painful to go into the heart-breaking details so late in the day, other than to say my cousin's alcoholism caused a permanent rift between us. He's dead now--of a heart attack he sustained after swallowing a huge chunk of steak while he was tanked. He was 49 at the time of his death.

So, while I condemn what Mel Gibson said, I also know that he was hammered (.12, I think). At least Gibson didn't drive off a bridge and leave a girl to drown in the car.

MissingLink said...

Nice avatar Beak.
And the action figure has his magnificent head almost intact (-hear).

Mr. Beamish the Instablepundit said...

Justin,

There is a distinct difference in the definitions of the words "erotic" and "homoerotic."

The Merry Widow said...

I do believe you're right Justin, ducky appears to have quite a "twist" in his mind! Anyone who could say that after watching "The Passion" doesn't have all their marbles! Is a few straws shy of a bale and the elevator not only doesn't go all the way to the top, but doesn't go all the way to the basement either!
Good morning and G*D bless!

tmw

Justin said...

Mr. B:
"There is a distinct difference in the definitions of the words "erotic" and "homoerotic."

I realize that and oddly enough I didnt hear anyone say they found it erotic either. I dont quite find a man being flogged and having his skin ripped off and then nailed to a cross Erotic or Homoerotic and it would take one sick puppy to be able to do that.

Anonymous:

I was not recruited by anyone. I have known from an early age I was gay. I didnt make all the usual gay scenes. I finally met someone not so much unlike me that we are in a committed relationship.

beakerkin said...

Justin

Lets be clear Michaelangelo's works are homoerotic. Does this degrade the value of his work? Thus with art it is more about quality and worksmanship. There is no doubt Michaelangelo was a highly talented artist. The work of 167 on his private blog is tasteless and homobufoonish art.

beakerkin said...

I had to delette a few posts with the wrong avatar. John Brown is at it again.

Purple Avenger said...

I'm not wired to tell people what is homoerotic about a crucifixion

A few years ago I shot a stubborn (male) possum that had invaded my garage and wouldn't leave even after several days of prompting and opportunity.

I used a small .25cal pistol and got'em in the head. As it thrashed for a minute or so, it popped (what appeared to me) to be a massive possum boner.

Admittedly, a .25 to the head isn't quite the same as a crucifiction, and a possum isn't quite a human, but the end result is the same, so maybe the ummmm "intermediate results" are the same too.

Anonymous said...

purple avenger:

I have read that this is not uncommon at death, BUT, it wasn't depicted in the movie.

Any suggestions of this are all in the minds of the beholders(perverts)!!!