Sunday, September 18, 2005

Unsung heroes

I have posted at length how every person that wore the unitorm is my hero. Above all were the Vietnam veterans not named John Kerry. I always believed in them and their mission.

Yet I want to talk about my other heroes.

1 Dedicated loving parents working two jobs to support kids who never say I love you.

2 Teachers who are dedicated to their craft but not appreciated by students parents or sometimes even their union,

3 People who still believe in the American dream. This is still the best place to raise a family.

4 Public safety workers who risk their lives for us .

5 THE WORKING POOR.Left and right forget about them

I try to thank people along the way but it is something we rarely hear. I thank all those who read this blog. It gets hot around here at times but America is about ideas and freedom cherish them and protect them.



Mr. Ducky said...

Every person who wore the uniform except John Kerry is a hero.

You are one demented clown.

B said...

What about the soldier's who participated in the Mai Lai massacre? Is Kerry worse than them?

beakerkin said...


I am glad you mentioned Mai Lai. Much of what we know of the original story comes third hand from olde unreliable Seymour Herch. It was reported weeks later and several stories were fiction.

I had two coworkers in Jersey who were there. Number one they were being fired at.

Number two the story of the helicopter pilot is self serving BS and did not happen. Anyone familiar with helicopters knows how fragile they are. The myth of the helicopter being placed in the way of the troops is BS. If he did that he woukd be courtmartialed moreover the troops had way more firepower.

Caley was a fall guy for a hungry press. This is not unusual but read airman Thompsons statements as a lawyer, How does he know who is hudddling in a bunker. Moreover why would people being massacred turn to a pilot.

Yet remember even with so many holes this was still prosecuted . The systyem reached a verdict and this behavior was trivial compared to the barbarism that preceeded and followed including Hue.

John Kerry is and will always be a paradox. He used the soapbox of Vietnam to gain noteriety. Yet he has a history of collaberation with Communists. The Christmas in Cambodia story starts with a movie review of Apocalypse Now.

Yet as the Vietnam Soldier becomes a hero Kerry tries to have it both ways. I am a hero too and do not mind the fraudulent Winter Soldier Hearings or Colaberation with fake Veterans who just happen to be Commies. Kerry and Hayden and all those who met with the VC should be in jail .

B said...

Beaks, I'm sorry you buy into such propoganda...

Word of the atrocities did not reach the American public until November 1969, when journalist Seymour Hersh published a story detailing his conversations with a Vietnam veteran, Ron Ridenhour. Ridenhour learned of the events at My Lai from members of Charlie Company who had been there. Before speaking with Hersh, he had appealed to Congress, the White House, and the Pentagon to investigate the matter. The military investigation resulted in Calley's being charged with murder in September 1969 -- a full two months before the Hersh story hit the streets...A military commission investigating the massacre found widespread failures of leadership, discipline, and morale among the Army's fighting units

This is NOT from Seymore Hersh. Do you honestly believe that people would be convicted from a story if it were false. That is just flat out ridiculous and if a liberal were to state that claim then he would be labeled a tin foil hat liberal.

beakerkin said...

My coworkers were there and Seymour Herch's career speaks for itself. Thompson is a self promoting liar.

Read Airman Thompsons statement as a lawyer you can drive a truck through it. The Ameican people overwhelmingly favored pardoning Calley at the time. Remember there was no Fox news and the Media was uniformly far left.

Read the timeline again and Thompsons statement. There is alot of fiction about MY LAI . It has spawned cottage industries NO Gun Ri.

B said...

Beaks, there's this thing called evidence, usually in the form of photographs and records which PROVE that it was real. The evidence speaks for itself and the evidence agrees with me not you.

beakerkin said...

I have to tell you before I spoke with my coworkers I would have agreed. The image of an American Babi Yar is clearly false.

The testimony of airman Thompson is clearly false. The version I was told makes sense.

Calley was a fall guy as Medina and the higher ups had top legal talent. The men had been taking fire from the village and were pissed.

If my friends account is accurate a grave miscarage has been done,
The Army was investigating long before shlock Journalist Seymour Hersch another far left type heard the story third hand.

I do know that the other source we have is the delusional Thompson.
My friends claimed that they picked known druggies . It is consistent with the lack of ethics at the time by journalists.

I do not blame you for being sceptical . I had to read Thompsons statements before I understood.

Read Thompsons statements as a lawyer and think it over for yourself.Also remember much of the imagery was presented by Hersch and Thompson two know self promoters.

Bodies alone do not tell the story . Were my friends correct and they were being fired upon. If accurate this places events in another context,

Look at the testimony and ask yourself Is Thompsons story credible. Does a group of soldiers who were pissed and being fired on make sense.

Always On Watch said...

In 1969, I was a sophomore in college. And what I most remember was the photograph, which is very disturbing. The image isn't easily forgotten, and it had much to do with the American public's losing stomach for the war.

Of course, a still photo doesn't tell what led up to that moment frozen in time. I was unaware that any testimony was questionable, but I have no doubt that the higher-ups could have set up a fall guy. As the saying goes, "Shit rolls downhill."

During and since Vietnam, too many are too willing to condemn American soldiers. We do not often see graphic photos of what the enemy does. And when we do, we brush them off. We want to believe that our own soldiers are better than the enemy, but the realities of to-the-death fighting can preclude that.

The American public does not understand the brutal reality of war. Soldiers who return home often cannot even speak of what they say. Such was the case with my great-uncle (WWI) and my three cousins, two of whom were present at the D-Day invasion. The one Vietnam vet whom I knew well told me that the enemy was often impossible to discern--for example, even four-year-old children carried grenades into camps. He pointed out how, after a time, many American soldiers became paranoid and committed acts which they had thought themselves incapable of. BTW, my Vietnam-vet friend was "never right" after the war--what he saw in Vietnam haunted him because he wasn't prepared for the brutality he saw on a daily basis. Real war is not like war in the movies.

There is a different reality in a war zone: what seems sane and moral to us sitting in the safety of our homes is not sane and moral on the battlefield. The fight for survival is brutal, akin to that in the wild.

Anonymous said...

It's obvious to me that the New/Proressive Left does not know the enemy or itself. For they exclusively pursue the beauty most evident to youth, and THAT is ALL that they can see, for they always retain their polarized and filtered love of it. They then actively oppose other elements of true beauty for Love of youthful beauty, for most never reach beyond the illusions of youth far enough to educate themselves in an unsheltered world, so great is their love of that part of beauty consisting of youthful values and hatred of more mature ones.


Emerson, "On Beauty"...

"I am warned by the ill fate of many philosophers not to attempt a definition of Beauty. I will rather enumerate a few of its qualities. We ascribe beauty to that which is simple; which has no superfluous parts; which exactly answers its end; which stands related to all things; which is the mean of many extremes. It is the most enduring quality, and the most ascending quality. We say, love is blind, and the figure of Cupid is drawn with a bandage round his eyes. Blind:--yes, because he does not see what he does not like; but the sharpest-sighted hunter in the universe is Love, for finding what he seeks, and only that; and the mythologists tell us, that Vulcan was painted lame, and Cupid blind, to call attention to the fact, that one was all limbs, and the other, all eyes. In the true mythology, Love is an immortal child, and Beauty leads him as a guide: nor can we express a deeper sense than when we say, Beauty is the pilot of the young soul."


Mortal children of the Left, follow Beauty, not Love, for Love is Immortal, and you are not.


Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young...

You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good bye.

Teach your children well,
Their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

And you, of tender years,
Can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth,
They seek the truth before they can die.

Counter Melody To Above Verse:
Can you hear and do you care and
Cant you see we must be free to
Teach your children what you believe in.
Make a world that we can live in.

Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.


Again, a love of youthful values. Best listen to your parents kiddies, for one day you will learn, that your parents actually DID know better! We have the truth before we die. It's only then that the truth and Beauty become more visible due to it's proximity.


Anonymous said...

Ageless Quote...

"If you are not a liberal when you are twenty, you have no heart.
If you are not conservative when you are forty, you have no brain."


Anonymous said...

The slogan 'Don't trust anyone over thirty'.

Sixty years later the slogan has become, 'Don't trust anyone over ninety'.

John McCarthy

Advice to book lovers, trust no book more youthful THAN 90.


Anonymous said...

Note to Crosby Stills Nash and Young...

Children do not teach their parents. The parents love their children, and re-experience their own youth vicariously watching them grow. In so doing, parents are able to recapture youthful memories of innocent Beauty and become "young again" in thought themselves.

But remember, you are not "instructors", for you are but full of youthful illusions of Beauty. We know her more fully than you. For her appearance is not merely "skin deep". And at your age, all you have seen is her skin.

If you were a hippy in the sixties, and remain a hippy today... try cutting the dosage of drugs you've been taking, for it's obvious that you don't have enough neurons left to really progress BEYOND your youth


Jason_Pappas said...

I don’t think you can learn about the service record of every single member of our arms service but the total picture should be clear. First of all, we can be proud of the service of our men and women. They serve with honor and have a record that exceeds every other country over the last century (or equals some of the best such as our allies the UK.) The exceptions are just that. All war is a hell where normal rules don’t work or apply. But our troops compare well to others given the situation and by applying any resonable rules of war.

Did Kerry serve his country well? Not being a vet, I prefer not to argue about the record of a vet (but other vets might feel differently). So I’ll say nothing bad about Kerry’s service. Let’s assume he served well. But so did Benedict Arnold. What Kerry did when he came back is inexcusable.

beakerkin said...

Jason I am hesiant to disagree with you but comparinG Benedict Arnold to John Kerry is an insult to a man who certainly was brave and was a leader. John Kerry was more Gomer Plye then Sgt York.

Anonymous said...

Kerry is and was as honest a warrior as any honest warrior can be. Bush on the other hand couldn't even complete basic training. What you wrote is just more BS from the lame ass right wing scum spewing dung from your fingers. So if you like crap just smell your fingers.

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