Monday, August 13, 2007

Education via Marcuse in NYC

The communist Marcuse crowd is often very vocal about school vouchers. The beloved Rav Roov must work two extra jobs to support tuitions for private school. The reality is that a Yeshiva does an excellent job of preparing kids for the real world. Most secular subjects in Yeshiva are taught by public school teachers in the afternoon looking for a few extra dollars with polite kids. Sometimes they are even retired.

NYC has now created Marcuse based victims schools on your dime. The clearest example was the Harvey Milk school for gay students. These students are apt to be teased no more than students who are fat, have zits or are short. However, the Marcuse based nuts have other agendas so now there is a gay school.

We did a story earlier about a Communist school and now a Madrassa. If it seems like everyone other than Jews, Christians and people who want a classical education get schools of your choice you are correct. Those groups are not official victims in the Marcuse based victims right communist scam that oddly puts Muslims on top. How a colonial people with a clear historical record of oppressing every group they come into contact with are victims says more about the Mickey Marxist fictional history being taught in our accademic gulags.

Of course Commies could Pony up 30,000 dollars to send their kids to the Little Red School House. The Communist Little Red Schoolhouse interviews the parents and are more exclusive than most Co-op boards. I guess if your father was with the Black Panthers sold some drugs and executed a few people for no good reason you might make the cut. Or you could make the cut if your family had a few dozen traitors canned by the Smith Act.

I am not opposed to the Madrassa or Commie schools as long as they are private. Let the Marxist and Jihadis pay a fraction of what the Beloved Rav Roov pays. The same crowd that places a crushing expense on Rav Roov sees nothing wrong with these schools.

Mayor Bloomberg here is a new concept an anti-communist school. Studets will be taught American history, read the classics and study business and shop. Teachers will be screened and anyone showing up in a Che T shirt gets sent to another school. We will call this new school the Bloomberg Academy and you can endow it. We will even have a life size statue, being that you are 5'5 and 120lbs this will not be a great feat. Imagine a school where kids learn about the Constitution, Shakespeare, Plato and Auto shop.

Beamish in 08


Anonymous said...

Q - Why are there no gay private schools?

Steve Harkonnen said...

The clearest example was the Harvey Milk school for gay students. These students are apt to be teased no more than students who are fat, have zits or are short. However, the Marcuse based nuts have other agendas so now there is a gay school.

Is there, seriously, a school for gay students, on the government dime??

Ducky's here said...

My, my another spate of whining about being a victim from Beak. He never tires.
So your brother has to pay to send his kids to private school. His choice, buck up and live like a man.

As for Harvey Milk High School, what you will not discuss is whether in fact gay kids in fact faced a very hostile school environment and needed a separate high school.
Now the home schooling crowd will site safety as a reason that they don't want their little robots in public schools (where they might come in contact with homos) but you won't look at the argument from the other perspective.

The primary reason for that is your being from a conservative educational background that did not stress thought and an exposure to a range of ideas.

Anonymous said...

Why are there no gay private schools, ducky?

Christian's often face a hostile school environment. So they send their kids to private school.

Why are gay kids so "special" that they need the public to protect them? Don't "black" kids need protection, too? Females?

When it comes to homosexuality, "diversity" must not be important.

beakerkin said...


Fat Kids and those with acne are picked on more than Gays and do not need their own schools.

My pint was that Rav Roov has to pay for private schools so should Commies and Jihadis.

Ducky's here said...

Farmer, please don't be a sophist. Gay kids face serious physical violence. Look into the reasons for establishing Harvey Milk High and then state those reasons were wrong but don't dismiss the issue of violence out of hand.

Frankly, I don't believe that Christians face an unusual threat of violence in public schools. The curricula may be considered "oppressive" (Some fundamentalists even lobby for "Christian mathematics").

beakerkin said...


Fat kids get more abuse than gays.
There is no need for a fat kid school or a school for kids with acne.

However, there should be a school that caters to classical values without Marxist hokum.

Anonymous said...

I don't know ducky. The same could have been said about racial segregation in Brown vs Board of Ed. Just look at all the black on white crime that could be avoided had Board been upheld instead of Brown.

Anonymous said...

...and just think of all the sexual harrassment girls face from boys! Which is probably why it is PC today for there to be hundreds of "girls colleges" across the nation, and NOT A SINGLE all male schools... right?

Ducky's here said...

Let me repeat, Farmer. The premise in establishing Harvey Milk was SEVERE PHYSICAL DANGER.

I don't really know if the premise is valid within the NYC school system but I do know (as do you) that the school is unique and it isn't valid to use an anecdotal example to describe a wider trend, as Beak is trying to do.

Ducky's here said...

From WIKIpedia:

Harvey Milk High School is a high school designed to be a safe space for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, or questioning (LGBTQ) students located in the East Village of New York City, and named after Harvey Milk, the first openly gay supervisor of San Francisco, California, who was assassinated in 1978. The school was originally run by the Hetrick-Martin Institute (HMI), an organization that provides social support to at-risk youth, especially those who are LGBTQ.

After becoming a fully-accredited public school in 2002, the high school is now administered by the New York City Department of Education, separate from HMI. The school and the non-profit still share space in the same building.

The school was founded in 1985 as a small, two-room program with just over a dozen students by HMI in collaboration with the New York City Department of Education's Career Education Center. The Department of Education administers the school and is responsible for admissions. Harvey Milk was created as an alternative education program for youth who find it difficult or impossible to attend their home schools due to threats, violence, or harassment.

Students must themselves apply to transfer to the high school, like other transfer schools in New York City. Approximately 95% of the students are African American or Latino. The school has a 95% graduation rate, far above the state average.

Anonymous said...

Sorry ducky. What evidence is there that ANY of these students are in ANY greater danger than the typical "fat kid" is from the typical "school bully"?

You have no facts in evidence.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it time that New York City integrate the Khalil Ghibran International Academy with Harvey Milk High School?

Gays and Islamicists. Can't "progressives" just "get along"?

beakerkin said...


Let the schools do their jobs and protect all students. Fat kids face more abuse than gay students.

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Jason_Pappas said...

One of Beaks- best commentaries -- in both content and style.

But I have to wonder. In a working-class NYC junior high in the 60s I never saw any violence against the gays. What has changed?

beakerkin said...

I never saw gay kids harassed. I saw fat kids harassed and nerds harassed. Are we going to set up a Lambda Lambda Lambda school next?

Ducky's here said...

What has changed? They came out of the closet.

Jason_Pappas said...

I never saw gay kids harassed.

I haven’t either. Something must have changed ... oh, wait, Ducky has a clue. "Approximately 95% of the students are African American or Latino." Could it be that gays have a harder time in minority-dominated schools? Is it possible that this is a school to escape certain homophobic environments? Is this a racist school?

If this is the case, it would be nothing new. When I was in high school, whites from Williamsburg would tell the school system that they wanted to study German in high school so that they could attend my high school in Queens.

Recently, whites on the Upper East Side didn’t want to attend the minority-dominated high school on East 68th street so the local (Democratic) politicians created a racist school under the guise of magnet school for “critical thinking students” so that they could have a local school with a mostly white student body. In the middle of a fiscal crisis (circa 2003) they bought a building from Sotheby’s in the east 1970s (high price real estate) and converted it into a high school – the Eleanor Roosevelt School.

Could it be that the Arab/Islamic school is really another racist school in disguise to escape the general black and Hispanic population? Ducky may be on to something.

Always On Watch said...

Now the home schooling crowd will site safety as a reason that they don't want their little robots in public schools (where they might come in contact with homos)...

Homeschooling parents make their choice for lots of different reasons, but I don't think fear of homosexuals is one of them. Maybe fear of pedophilic teachers, though.

You might be surprised at the diversity among homeschoolers.

As to robots, well, the left is guilty of that one.

Could it be that the Arab/Islamic school is really another racist school in disguise to escape the general black and Hispanic population? Ducky may be on to something.

The enrollment in the NYC madrassa was very low the last time I checked.

Steve Harkonnen said...

So, tell me this. If a straight kid enrolls, do they stop him at the gate, ask for proof?

It's the same principle as me trying to get into Six Flags in DC for the free Muslim Day rate. What proof does one need to get into Harvey Milk School, and do they discriminate against a kid if they are not GLBT?

Steve Harkonnen said...

LOL, the next school will be for NAMBLA kids, and the NAMBLA members will be the teachers.

The need for such a school is quite queer on its own terms.

Mr. Beamish the Kakistocrat said...

What scientific evidence was ever presented to get the highly politicized American Psychiatric Association to first remove homosexuality from its "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" (1973) and its recent endorsement of gay marriage to "promote the mental health" of homosexuals (2005).

Those of you who answered "not a damn thing" are correct.

Back when the APA was interested in being a scientific organization rather than a bullhorn for people suffering from behavioral disorders, homosexuality was a problem to be cured, not promoted.

Yes, I know. It was wrong to wipe out dodo birds and smallpox too.

::rolls eyes::

Mr. Beamish the Kakistocrat said...

What's next, a school for guys who can't get laid? Ship them across town to the school with the girls who can't get laid enough?

What about sports? Here comes the Harvey Milk High School Squirming Gerbils!

Ducky's here said...

Well Jason, it could be all of that. It isn't hard to believe that life is a little tougher in ghetto schools.

We'll always have a bunch of whites who are frightened to attend a minority school. also.

Lot of prejudice out there. One thing we won't see is an admission that whites don't want to go near poorer schools because they are racists. You'll hear some nonsense about "excellence". But John Galt would have succeeded under any circumstances, right Jason?

Well no, but just a reminder about what a joke Rand was.

Steve Harkonnen said...

Ducky, for once in the few times we agree on Ayn Rand. I wouldn't call her a joke. More like "what a piece of work she was."

There is a video game out there about her and her "lost society" I just can't grasp the name of that game for now.

The Merry Widow said...

Ducky-My college roommates little(short and younger)sister had 2 black girls who escorted her to and from school, you know why? Because she was being harrassed and was close to being beat up on until those 2 girls stepped in. And this was at a "good" school in relatively safe and well to do Ft. Myers! Money wasn't a problem. In fact the 3 of them were called the oreo cookie when they went by.
So your premise may just be mistaken...


Jason_Pappas said...

Yes, Ducky, there are certainly many whites who don’t want to go to schools that are predominately black regardless of the income level of the student’s parents. However, you’ll find immigrants from all backgrounds whose bigotry, prejudice, and yes, pure racism is far greater than what you'll find among whites. One thing many don’t realize is that racism (a tribal mentality) is the norm in most places around the world. America is unusual in its efforts to combat this ugly disposition.

Excellence is a dirty word in your book? You’re socialist egalitarian roots are showing. True to form!