Sunday, January 24, 2010

The mess at Bad Eagle- Part 2

I am an American. There is no other title I seek. I say these words with pride and a love in my heart. It unites me with people as diverse as Mr Beamish, Warren, AOW, Pagan Temple, Farmer John and Justin amongst others. I do not seek to emulate the EU, nor do I find them more enlightened. My traditions and values are found in the Constitution. When we have made errors historically it was because we failed to extend the wisdom in those documents to all.

It is with utter disbelief that I find myself sometimes dealing with over the top expressions of hatred directed mostly against Blacks from those who call themselves American and Conservatives. There is nothing conservative about mindless hatred of people for their race or religion. We celebrate individualism and grasp the basis of our country is individual liberty.

I wish those who venture into Bad Eagle good luck. You will meet a demented racist loser named Batty Ann. She wants to start her own movement Non white white supremacists. The KKK was never fond of any racial mixing and didn't care for Indians at all.

There is no place in my Americanism for racial arson.

22 comments:

CM said...

Beakerkin,

I accept the fact that there are people who are adversed to Native American. We have differenct dialect/accents etc, color of skin, from drk brn to white with red to blond hair, Our own Government within the Big Daddy, much confusion, but we are still here!

Not many of us, if yeagleys' people the White Euro-Supremists wanted they could knock us off before they get rid of all the Mexicans. This time in History is in such a MESS....for all Colors.

Should I fear for yeagley...he did cut his hair, he does look white, he doesn't have an Indian accent his sister bought him new clothes. I will do all I can to pray for his safety, get out all my rocks, cedar etc. collected from hither to here and hope that he represents the best for ALL People, it could happen, very slim, but it could Happen. I hope he changes his mind though, and goes to a Pow-Wow.


CM

The Pagan Temple said...

I think he's veering off into a very dark area. I won't go so far as to say he's bat-shit insane, but he could end up in that terrain within three to four years if somebody doesn't do anything to pull him back.

He obviously doesn't have a sense of humor. He's not required to have one, and there could be a benign reason for it. He could be a naturally humorless sort of person. They do exist. Or, he might also be dealing with a recent tragedy, a loss or an illness.

My guess though, taking everything into consideration, is he feels like he doesn't really belong anywhere. If he is bi-racial, he might feel he is illegitimate in both the Indian and the White realm. This would explain his fascination with White Power movements as well as his obvious self-aggrandizement as the great-grandson of Bad Eagle.

When a person doesn't have a sense of humor it's often a sign they take themselves too seriously. In some cases, this might just be because they feel nobody else takes them seriously at all.

A Pow Wow might be a good idea. I don't know that much about it, frankly, but from what I've seen-and bear in mind I don't know whether this would be applicable to Commanche culture or not-but if it is, or even if it isn't, he might want to consider going to a sweat lodge and undergoing ritual purification.

Ducky's here said...

It only unites you with the far right? Isn't that kind of boring?

CM said...

Pagan,

Ritual Purification Perfect! Mind and Body purification is what it really is. Get all those impurities out.

I entered a sweat with my brother who had a terminal illiness, you go in to Pray for ALL and everyone in there has a turn to speak, I asked for prayers for my brother, its been over 8 years and he has more energy than I, he's up and gone at the crack of dawn and he loves the Casinos, everyone knows him, they either fear him or Love him, all respect him.

Don't listen to the bag, No Honorable Native Prays for bad upon another Native, or anyone for that matter.

I continue to hope for the best for yeagley. Just because we will never have the same views, I NEVER wished him harm.

CM

The Pagan Temple said...

CM-

It's probably like a lot of other things, it will only work if you recognize you have a problem and you really want help. Presumably if he would agree to undertake such a step, he would have decided that. I don't know but very little about it, but I would assume you go through a period of preparation before you enter the lodge, and there are doubtless follow-up steps that are encouraged. It would be good for him and might get him back on track.

CM said...

Pagan,

True, it would definately be good for him, but like I have always said, he is not Comanche in spirit and soul, maybe DNA, just one drop. I really can't see him in a Sweat or a Peyote meeting...! You don't have to be Native Blood, but acceptance of all others is very important part of the Spiritual beliefs.

CM

Rob Taylor said...

WEhen I first started blogging I wanted to find righty blogs that were different to fit in with Red Alerts being partly a place for non-traditional conservative views. I linked to a lot of Black, Pagan, Gay etc righty blogs and still do. I was never comfortable with Bad Eagle, as a Bi-racial person I find his views on race (now more open then they once were) insulting, as a Pagan I find his sanctimonious spiritual moralizing about Mother nature annoying and frankly his toe in the water flirtations with racialism are a sign that he is so far right he's come out on the left.

I know he's written some good essays, but so has Anton LaVey. He's been spreading racist nonsense since at least '05. Thanks for speaking out about him though.

Ducky's here said...

Beak, what's the over/under on how long before I get banned at GayEagle. I really steamed him off today.

The_Editrix said...

Duckys-here // Jan 25, 2010 at 11:53 am

Just curious, Doctor Yeagley, do you have a job?

Being a greeter at an Indian casino doesn’t count. What’s the deal?


This is side-splittingly, floor-rollingly, pants-pissingly, ass-offingly funny!

Ducky's here said...

http://www.bluecorncomics.com/yeagley.htm

Hey, Beak, the definitive page on Yeagley. The man is psycho.

I figure I'm banned in a day or so over at GayEagle. I won't even have to work hard.

The_Editrix said...

"...and frankly his toe in the water flirtations with racialism are a sign that he is so far right he's come out on the left."

You are talking about Yeagley, right? I'm not 100% sure because defining him as somebody who does "toe in the water flirtations with racialism" is akin to calling Dzenghis Khan "a tad belligerent" or Torquemada "a jurist with a legitimacy problem" or Andrea Dworkin "a woman who had a warped vision of men".

I think there is a difference between racialism (i.e. race realism) and asking, say, the legitimate question why each and every society run by blacks is such a mess (Yeah! I know! It's all that wicked colonialism!) or stating that blacks come from an amalgamation of man and beast because some perverted "prophetesse" with a head trauma said so.

Also, I, as a Catholic, find his sanctimonious spiritual moralizing about Mother Nature not just annoying (that too) but full blown blasphemy.

Seriously and no trolling intended, I am still not sure whether you are talking about Yeagley.

The_Editrix said...

JackInJill // Jan 25, 2010 at 4:16 pm

Doctor Yeagley, you mentioned something about Ennui. I don’t know what it is but it sure sounds like fun. And know, you mean old man, contrary to your earlier accusations towards me I am not a Sandusky or PMS or whatever the person you said, I am just an average, run-of-the-mill transvestite (soon hopefully to be transsexual) trying to make my way in a world I never made.

The fact that you don’t listen to liberals speaks volumes. How can you call them racists when you don’t listen to them? Explain that one. It’s good to know though that you are getting tired of O’Reilly and that bunch of whack-jobs.


This is AWESOME! Sheer and undiluted genius!

The Pagan Temple said...

Editrix-

That was nothing compared to the post he deleted. I do think I might have convinced him though I'm not "PMS".

By the way, everybody, I don't know whether or not Rob Taylor found this site on my blogroll, or whether his presence here is a coincidence, but I highly recommend his blog, Red Alerts, and also that of his wife Jenn Q. Public. Both his and her posts and writings are of the highest quality.

Rob Taylor said...

Editrix I was referring to his earlier writings, browsing his more recent stuff it is much more overt.

I think if anyone was a "race realists" they'd understand that the "White race" is a meaningless term that encompasses Celts, Indo-Europeans, Aryans etc. Iranians are "White" as are Arabs. The aborigines of Australia are genetically Caucasian. Coming from a bi-racial person I find it strange Yeagley doesn't seem to understand genetic identity is not destiny.

As for Black countries most are or have been Marxist, Cuba sent forces to Africa 30+ times since their revolution. Those countries not under Marxist control contend with aggressive Islamism. Colonialism is a academic cop-out. In Africa we see the end result of both Marxism and Islamism just as we see the end result of pure Islam in the often barbaric Middle East and Socialism in the collapsing and moribund Europe.

Rob Taylor said...

Thanks for the kind words by the way. As you know I'm a big fan of The Pagan Temple

The Pagan Temple said...

Rob-

I agree with your views as to the effects of Islamism and socialism in Africa, but I think you might be letting European colonialism off the hook too easy. It's not only about what the Europeans did as what they didn't do.

They left their former colonies to twist in the wind, not helping them to establish any kind of infrastructure or culture of governance and rule of law, a reliable civil service, education or judicial system, a functional middle class, nothing capable of creating an atmosphere conducive to the establishment of economic viability or of maintaining security or law and order, etc.

They left them to function as pure democracies without checks and balances. That is a recipe for disaster in countries with several different competing and oftentimes hostile ethnic groups, even multiple dialects, to say nothing of religions. They caused a vacuum that something had to fill and which paved the way for the later abuses.

I'll be the first to admit I don't know but very little about the state of sub-Saharan Africa before the advent of European colonialism, but I have a very strong idea it was nothing like this.

The very leftist politics you rightly claim is to their overall detriment is, after all, also a European innovation.

Wherever European colonizers go, they seem to leave destitution in their place when they leave. I am of the opinion that their fascination to the point of fanaticism with Global Climate Change Cap and Trade policies has as much to do with getting a trade advantage as actual concern with the environment, and once again these developing countries would get the short end of the stick, every bit as much as the US.

Rob Taylor said...

True. I should have said that the true crime of colonialism was leaving the colonies to "twist in the wind" as you say. The vacuum left by the withdrawal of the colonial powers was filled by both Marxism and Islamism.

However Islamic Imperialism existed in Africa long before the European powers held sway, although I guess we could go back to ancient Rome and their influence in North Africa to prove differently. But it's interesting that where Rome left civilization was able to flourish after a period of transition, whereas Islam and I would put forward Islam seem to so cripple societies as to make it all but impossible for them to evolve.

I also think that Global warming is post-marxist anti-humanism. It's about killing everyone out of spite.

The_Editrix said...

"Editrix I was referring to his earlier writings, browsing his more recent stuff it is much more overt."

I see! My theory is that his mother kept him relatively sane and that he wrote what she told him to write. After she died he quickly turned into the whackjob he is now.

"I think if anyone was a "race realists" they'd understand that the "White race" is a meaningless term that encompasses Celts, Indo-Europeans, Aryans etc."

There are no "Aryan" people. Maybe, as a German, I am a bit over-sensitive when it comes to that term, but "Aryan" is a language group. Other than that, I fully agree. "White" is meaningless without qualification. There are even countless German tribes who see themselves as Bavarian, Friesian, Westphalian, whatever, first, then as a German and maybe somewhere down the line as white, although I doubt it. To apply TPT's words to Germany: a country "with several different competing and oftentimes hostile ethnic groups, even multiple dialects, to say nothing of religions."

What sense does it make to define oneself as white in a white society? If one isn't a lunatic obsessed with "race", that is.

"Iranians are "White" as are Arabs."

I disagree. They are Caucasian, but not white. But I see your point.

"Coming from a bi-racial person I find it strange Yeagley doesn't seem to understand genetic identity is not destiny."

It is simply wrong to expect anything rational from him. He once said that his white father apologized that his children weren't white. Can you imagine what it means to be brought up in such a spirit of hatred?

The_Editrix said...

"He obviously doesn't have a sense of humor. He's not required to have one, and there could be a benign reason for it. He could be a naturally humorless sort of person. They do exist. Or, he might also be dealing with a recent tragedy, a loss or an illness.

My guess though, taking everything into consideration, is he feels like he doesn't really belong anywhere. If he is bi-racial, he might feel he is illegitimate in both the Indian and the White realm. This would explain his fascination with White Power movements as well as his obvious self-aggrandizement as the great-grandson of Bad Eagle."

I overlooked that at first. I think that is a terrifyingly accurate diagnosis!

"A Pow Wow might be a good idea. I don't know that much about it, frankly, but from what I've seen-and bear in mind I don't know whether this would be applicable to Commanche culture or not-but if it is, or even if it isn't, he might want to consider going to a sweat lodge and undergoing ritual purification."

CM will be a better judge of that, but I think he would shudder at the thought of something he considers utterly barbaric and heathen. His interest in Comanche culture is faked and his knowledge zero. He jumped on the Indian bandwagon to get recognition as a "pundit". Who would have read the crap of some David Yeagley, piano doctor, from Oklahoma? But "the first conservative Comanche" has considerable attention-grasping clout.

CM said...

Editrix,

I think he's even stated that before, that he doesn't belong anywhere, hasn't found his place.

He uses bag to draw out the
worst in a person, then he meekly says "what did I do", because she comes in to do his dirty work and protects him, he is such a wimp.

Then they both go after the Indian Male image...well some Indian women like the bag have lots of hurt coming to them because of their own bad attitude, she asks for it...I mean literally, loudly over and over!

She keeps bringing me into her attacks, wants to fight me....duh, I don't think I have ever fought physically another woman or man......but hell Grandson has one of those things hanging from the tree too, I have to strengthen my skinny wrists.....I would really love to_kick her A** or give it a damn good try.

I seem to always get what I want!

Now this is not over that lying yeagly, for me its because she has a lying foul, vulgar mouth, and she keeps asking for it!
I hope she loses some weight!

CM

Ducky's here said...

I think it is disgraceful that we can't respect a man who has "Michael Jackson" plastic surgery done so he can go native.

There are whackjobs and there are completely dedicated whackjobs.

Yeagley however is in a nonpareil class of his own.

I think his fag hag, Betty Boop, had me banned. I can no longer post, boo hoo.

CM said...

No I believe yeagley is a natural. Just Not Indian! And Not Tall Dark nor Handsome like baggy ann claims.

He did look exactly like his Aunt whom died recently, same profile as I remember her lying there or is it laying there? Of course I have never seen him lying down or is it laying down? Almost though, since one of our Comanche Committee members threatened to kick his arse! yeagley hasn't been back to a meeting since......tee hee.

CM

He and betty ann do have a fatal attraction toward one another.