Thursday, June 11, 2009

Where insanity leads

If we had genuine mental health industry the shooter at the Holocaust Museum would have been treated long ago. The problem is the industry has been infested with mindless radicals who have dismissed the obsessive paranoid qualities for obvious reasons. When one starts talking about Holocaust Denials, 9-11 conspiracies and Neocon Cabals one is in fact insane.

10 comments:

FJ said...

...and if everyone inside the Memorial had been armed, even a crazy nutjob wouldn't have considered attacking it.

Always On Watch said...

Von Brunn was a real nutjob. Hell, even his fellow white-supremacists didn't much like him. See the post I did on the topic today.

Ducky's here said...

Treated? By whom, the nanny state?

beamish said...

When one starts talking about Holocaust Denials, 9-11 conspiracies and Neocon Cabals one is in fact insane.

Not to mention undeniably left-wing, which should have been the first conclusion when his neo-Nazi associations were uncovered.

The_Editrix said...

When one starts talking about Holocaust Denials, 9-11 conspiracies and Neocon Cabals one is in fact insane.

Not to mention undeniably left-wing...


Not so. You'll find exactly the same rhetoric on the right wings, it's just that you Americans are blessed with a lesser number of that sort, but that doesn't mean that they don't exist.

By the way, I think that in the not so far future holocaust denial will be a respected school among historians. Holocust relativism already is. While it is still relatively subtle yet, the time will come where less subtle relativism and then crude denial will be, as I said, just one "school" among others within historiography. Muslim money will help the process, but come it will anyway.

So much about "insane".

beamish said...

Editrix,

What is considered "right-wing" in Europe is decidedly to the left of what is considered "right-wing" in the United States.

For example, if you were to transplant the British Nationalist Party's political platform into the United States and asked Democrats (leftists) and Republicans (rightists) to find the things they agree with, all of the BNP's socialist worker co-operative economic and foreign policies would fit comfortably in the Democratic Party and be totally at odds with the Republican Party, leaving only the racialist anti-immigration components that neither Democrats or Republicans would touch.

The_Editrix said...

"What is considered "right-wing" in Europe is decidedly to the left of what is considered "right-wing" in the United States."

That puts it too simplistic, at least for Germany, about which I was talking. We do not have any "conservatives" as you have (some) Republicans and even (a very few) Democrats. They are vitually non-existent. "Rightwingers" in Germany are Nazis. And don't give me the crap that Nazis are really leftists. They are not conservatives either, but leftists they aren't.

Besides, all that doesn't touch my (important) main point that Holocaust revisionism/denial can be found on both sides of the political spectrum, whatever one chooses to call it.

beamish said...

Editrix,

Left-right distinctions are primarily made via economic philosophy.

The Nazis were leftists. They may have favored state aquisition of Jewish-owned means of production over other ethnic groups, nonetheless socialism and command economy planning was one of their primariry defining characteristics.

Always On Watch said...

My grandmother used to say about people I called "crazy": "He's not crazy. He's just plain mean."

The_Editrix said...

Beam: There is a leftist aspect in the Nazi concept of a New Order for all "Aryan" mankind, but that was secondary to, or rather part of, the concept of racial supremacy and antisemitism, the core of Nazism. The elevation of the "Teutonic race" over the rest can not (NOT!) by any (ANY) stretch of the imagination be called leftist. And as far as economics are concerned, the Nazis never created state ownership and centralized planning and weren't going to. They rather applied their corrupted Darwinian concepts of competition to the economy, so competition between companies and individuals would remain the guiding principle. They were heavily supported by the industry, before and after they came to power.

I think the misconception is due to, apart from wishful thinking, that Americans perceive as "rightist" something totally different than we do.

We can agree that Nazis were something beyond the categories of left and right, but "leftists" they weren't. Just say goodbye to a concept that was nice, soothing and comfortable to have as long you didn't know better. Now you do.

AOW: Spot on!