Wednesday, June 24, 2009

When Great Sites Decline

I want to point out that the Editrix is largely correct. I want to point out some basic mistakes that can happen at any site.

A site needs to have a voice or a vision. Yet there also needs to be decorum.

There is also the question of how the person views Jews.

1) The author in question is clearly not an antisemite.
2) The author does have an odd opinion that successful non Jews have some secret Jewish heritage as conversos or tie to the community.

A recent example is a series of posts about Justice Sotomayor. A person who has grown up in NYC will undoubtedly have many Jewish friends and peers. This should come as zero surprise to people who live here. NYC is a special place where people mix freely. This may sound odd but I feel more comfortable in a Guyanese, Indian or Dominican Party in NYC than at parties in VT.
In NYC one is expected and encouraged to have such experiences.This familiarity was likely reinforced in college and in law school.

Does this familiarity or affinity infer that she is Jewish? No, it is just part of NYC life.

There are people like Sunbeam who seldom venture far from their community. However, there are plenty of people like myself who venture into other communities freely. Does my affinity
for the local Cuban, Guyanese and Dominican communities alter my identity. No, it merely enriches and makes my life more interesting.

The Doctor does understand the vibrant aspect of intellectual debate within our community. Within a household there may be a range of political and religious debates spanning all spectrums. There are brilliant people like my grandmother who was the rare Jewish Conservative of her era. There are those who just live life and let others ponder the larger questions as they raise children or work.

A Jew understands what it is like to be the outsider. Thus at work when a member of a foreign
culture arrives it is appropriate to respect the culture within reason. A small gesture such as understanding the basics of the religion or culture goes a long way. Many of us feel an affinity with those who are needlessly hated for being themselves. The very same people who rail against Blacks will often rail against Jews. Thus it is hardly surprising that when people are needlessly targeted for hate many Jews will empathize with a familiar experience.

What has led to the downfall of the site is a crab apple mentality. There are those who think that saving America from a Jewish conspiracy is a divine mission. These people cloak themselves in fake patriotism and Christianity. They talk as if they own America, but are alien to its ideals.
I am glad you are proud of your culture, please stop denigrating Blacks who are my fellow citizens.You do not raise your culture by denigrating another.

The Conservatism of Reagan welcomed all to share our hopes, dreams and future together. Racial supremacy is lunacy, not Conservatism.

16 comments:

Ducky's here said...

Why not just admit that Yeagley is mentally, ill, stay away from his moronic site and stop trying to justify your neuroses.

If you feel some affinity to the sociopathic stuff at Yeagley's then deal with it as your personal issue. 'Cause it ain't healthy.

Ducky's here said...

I take it all back, Beak. Bald Eagle is clearly running a parody site:

David Yeagley // Jun 16, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Google is liberal. Liberal means interracial sex, mixed breeds, multi-culti-culturalism, one world, globalist false godism…you know, the whole nine yards.

All major business is liberal. I suppose they fear being sued by the ACLU. Therefore, they are aggressive now about their liberalism, these mega-corps conglomerates.

beamish said...

Scratch a leftist, find an anti-Semite.

Since Robespierre, Beak.

It's the glue that binds the left together.

The Pagan Temple said...

I'm going to have to pay a visit to this idiotic site and see what all the fuss is about. I don't guess it would be asking too much to ask for a link?

The Pagan Temple said...

Beak, when was the last time you were on that site? Did you ever comment on it? Did you use a different user name?

Yeagley defended Israel's sinking of the USS Liberty. How anti-Semitic can he be?

He seems to be more against blacks and race mixing than anything but I haven't read too much there yet either.

beakerkin said...

Pagan

I am frequently there.

Yeagley is not an antisemite in any description. He does have some odd views of Jews in a mystical manner such as thinking Sottomayor is really Jewish.

Being against Blacks is being against members of the American family. As Americans they are my brothers and sisters.

Mr Beamish

The biggest problem there is a lunatic that is familiar Rightminded. He is posting his usual crap under the name GMS.

The Pagan Temple said...

I went through most of the June and May archives and I never saw anything posted by you in the comments, nor anything that looked like it might have been posted by you. I hope he didn't delete your comments. That would be a bad sign for him, seeing as to some of the other stuff I saw that he let stand.

His views of blacks and race mixing, especially mixed marriages, is straight out of the nineteen fifties. He even calls them "darkies". For an American Indian he sure does seem to be a fan of the "great white race". I don't really know quite how to take him. I'll go back and read some more later. I doubt I'll say much to anybody there, what's the point? If I did it would be to just mess with some of the Nazi types.

Ducky's here said...

Hey Beamish, how about one of the most virulent anti-Semites of all, Martin Luther?

Ducky's here said...

Hey Beamish, check out today's USA Today. Scratch a fundie ...

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A 1973 conversation between President Nixon and evangelist Billy Graham about Jews, laden with critical references including a Biblical verse on the "synagogue of Satan," has put the aging, frail Graham back in unwelcome headlines.

The conversation is part of newly-released secretly recorded tapes from the Nixon presidency, from the U.S. National Archives in College Park, Md., and the Richard Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda, Calif. A sampling of more than 150 hours of tape recordings and 30,000 pages of documents from two months in 1973 were made public Tuesday (download at Nixon.archives.gov/National Archives), culled from 4,000 hours of taped meetings and phone calls in a two-year period.

An earlier release of tapes in 2002 shocked fans of Graham, who is heard agreeing with Nixon as the president rails against liberal Jews' political activism and media clout. Graham tells Nixon how Jews befriend him but adds, "They don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country."

beamish said...

Beak,

I remember Blightminded. He didn't like my exposing him and his lord and savior Adolf Hitler as leftists on Moonbat Central or the Autonomist (Rocco's blog).

So he wound up at Yeagley's?

Meh.

beakerkin said...

Pagan

If you go in the forum section you will see my comments there in mostly the sections related to Jews or Heat.

You can see a genuine Nazi idiot calling himself GMS.

Yeagley is not an antisemite.

Mr B

The Nazi Rightminded is there fouling up the joint. He posts under the name GMS. I reminded him how he got his butt kicked by you at Rocco's.

Ducky

The record of Nixon in the 73 war proves actions speak louder than words.

The Pagan Temple said...

I went to the forums and saw your posts, Beak. I wouldn't bother with that crap, if I were you. What can you possibly accomplish? It's a waste of time. If you want to converse with Yeagley, I would do so off-site. Maybe he can get a feel for what's real and what's right if you contact him privately, so long as you don't go it in such a way as to make him feel you're harassing him, or taking up too much of his time.

As long as you speak with him through the forums, he is going to feel like he needs to play the genial, objective host to all concerned.

To a point, I see where he's coming from. Go to the main page of the forum, where it gives the list, and then look down the line at how many comments have been made on each specific forum topic. I am going to say the average is about four comments per forum topic.

In other words, he is not exactly burning up the blogosphere.

I thought about inventing a sock puppet to mess with the Nazi guy. I was going to identify myself as a half-black, half Jewish radical male gay transgendered activist, carrying the baby of his Muslim girlfriend, demanding churches that refuse to recognize gay marriage be outlawed, and mandating that everybody must have at least one homosexual encounter before they are allowed to speak out on the subject.

But then I thought to myself, what the hell, why mess with these god damned people to begin with? There's too much important crap to get started on some kind of silly shit like that.

beamish said...

Ducky,

You pervert what Rev. Graham actually said on those tapes.

More interesting to me was Nixon's reaction to the Roe v. Wade decision and his agreement with the leftist anti-miscegenation argument for legalizing abortion.

That, coupled with his Jew-baiting, price control economics, and formation of the Enviromental Protection Agency, puts him a little further to the left than moderate, almost into Nazi spectrum range.

No real surprise there.

beakerkin said...

Pagan

I would have been blamed for that sock puppet. However, at what point does the Duck get it right. Some of those clowns do appear to be poor satire or bad archetypes.

Yeagley is a good man. He needs to clear the Nazi out.

Actually the champion Nazi buster is Mr B who makes that clown cry.

beamish said...

To me the only real difference between the old left and the new left is that the new left doesn't feature swastikas on their pamphlets, preferring instead to defend the leftists still embracing the swastika in a court of law.

The_Editrix said...

What about the Old Left who were tortured and killed by those who featured swastikas on their pamphlets in Germany between 1933 and 1945? Political infighting, yeah, right! I wish you Americans would FOR EFFING ONCE shut the fuck up about things you don't have A CLUE about.