Monday, June 29, 2009


There is a certain element that thinks they own this country. This element screams from the top of
its lungs that it is more patriotic and Christian than the rest of you. In fact this element is neither Christian nor American.

My country's ideals are open to all who decide to believe. Any notion of racial supremacy is a mockery of the founding ideals of my country. Blacks are Americans who serve our nation in all capacities. The notion that they are not equal or that being Black is a detriment is Unamerican. I also will never tell a person who to love based upon anything other than character.

It is fine to dislike Obama's policies and Obama personally. There are many valid reasons for doing so. It is valid to point out he got 90% of the Black vote and would not have been elected without it.It is also valid to state that many whites voted for him out of a belief he could heal racial divisions. It is accurate to point to the slavish coverage in the media. It is not okay to focus on his race and rant that he is a tool of the Jews.

Understanding America from its Judeo Christian roots is fairly simple. The other day I went with
Sunbeam and met Jews of all types and description. I met Jews from Turkey, Morocco, Russia, Poland and of course the USA. There are plenty of young Chinese females adopted raised in Jewish homes that consider themselves Jewish. There are plenty of Black Jews from Ethiopia and some from mixed marriages and conversions. There are many different communities that range from reform to the Chasidic sects. Most shop in the same stores, eat in the same establishments and marry between the groups. The exceptions are some Chasidic groups marry
amongst themselves and the Syrians tend to do so as well.

The Jewish community is not unique. The vast majority of Christians understand that Christ is open to all who decide he is the savior. The notion that any group is excluded on the basis of race
is a mockery of Christianity. Any notion of racial supremacy is a mockery of the message of Jesus. We do have many devout Christians on this site who are genuine such as Junglemom, TMW, AOW, Zinla, Warren and many others. None of the commenters embrace a racial exclusionary form of Christ.

If America is to embody the Judeo Christian ideal than it must be open to all who embrace the concepts embodied in the Constitution. We can acknowledge racial differences, but those diffrences do not make people less American.

There are many out there who have a paranoid view that Jews/Zionists control America. There is almost a fundamentalist fervor amongst these false patriots that America needs to be rescued
from this element. This is not Conservatism and it is a mockery of conservative values. It is a paranoid form of mental illness masking itself as political thought. Oddly, these so called Conservatives readily repeat the lines of Communists and freely associate with them in common fronts.

The subject of homosexuality is one that the false patriot holier than crowd is obsessed by. Even in a religious Jewish context homosexuality is one of many sins. Included on the same list is adultery, masturbation and pre and extra marital sex. In reality we live in a country based on Civil law. Sexual behavior is a private matter that is within the bounds of personal liberty between consenting adults. I do not want a Saudi style government stoning masturabators or anyone else. We would also quickly have a country left with Pat Boone and around three other people.It is okay to be against gay marriage and have discomfort with the gay lifestyle. However, it is wrong to hate people for behavior that is private, consentual and to be blunt is not
anyone's business.

I value personal liberty and want government out of my bedroom and refrigerator. We are coming to an era where elites will decide to abuse the tax code and tax soda and likely soon potato chips. Government intrusion into our private lives is something that needs to be opposed.


The_Editrix said...

Beak, I hate to lecture a Jew on things Jewish, but there is Jewry outside the Big Apple and they definitely don't all get on together that well. Case in point the Sephardic Jews of Europe who are fostering considerable contempt towards the Ashkenazim whom they perceive as piss poor rabble from the Eastern European ghettoes. Or the Ashkenazim in Israel who are holding the North African Jews in even greater contempt. Not that this is anything particularly vile. People tend to feel contempt towards other groups, that's as old as humanity and part of the forming of an identity. It's just not true that Jews of all hues and backgrounds get on together famously everywhere. On the other hand, it is right that they prefer, when all is said and done, Jews to any other ethnicity, which is understandable and the right thing to do as well. A friend of mine, whose daughter had an unwelcome proclivity for the black race said: "I'll send her to Israel. There they have Jewish Negroes, if it HAS to be one."

The_Editrix said...

Oh I forgot: Homosexuality! How can one, as a Christian, condemn homosexuals when God has made them? One can condemn their acts, but not the people. The "Old Testament" religiosity of Americans is starting to get seriously on my nerves. The Catholic Catechism says everything that can, and ought to be, said about homosexuality:

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.


2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

Although for me, personally, it would be enough if they wouldn't foist their disgusting sexuality on all the world. Maybe this is interesting in this context.

beakerkin said...


Even in Israel the divide between Ashkenazi and Sephard is becoming a thing of the past. Mixed marriages between the two groups are common.

In NYC the community is reflective of an overall tolerance. However, one can see similar mixing in Montreal or in any major city.

Europe has different traditions than the American egalitarianism.
This mixing may indeed be a by product of absorption of American values, but it is a welcome improvement.

Onto Gays I do not dispute the theological cannon. However, I do
emphasize that hating people for being gay is wrong. Other than the person I love ( Sunbeam) a person's sexual behavior is not my
concern so long as consenting adults are involved.

Sunbeams views are not that different from an AOW. She recognizes the theological teachings, but doesn't pass judgment on people. It is similar to hate the sin but love the sinner which is a common theme.

My problem is mainly at tonal levels. We know what scripture says, but how should we react to that in our private lives. Needless hatred of people for a private matter between onsenting adults is wrong.

Ducky's here said...

It is not okay to focus on his race and rant that he is a tool of the Jews.


Who the hell is doing that?

Beak, you are delusional. Snap out of it.

The_Editrix said...

"Needless hatred of people for a private matter between consenting adults is wrong."

Without doubt. The problem is that gays don't keep it private. They hijack the streets for disgusting exhibitionist displays. Why do we need to know the sexual orientation of a person at all? Why "gay pride"? There is about as much reason to be proud to be gay as there is to be proud to have shoe size 5.

I don't want to know what they do in their bedrooms, I don't want them (or anybody) to know what I do in my bedroom and I certainly don't want them to strut their bedroom stuff publicly. This adult does NOT consent to be forced to watch gays in sexually provocative situations.

But we agree that it is wrong to hate them JUST BECAUSE they are homosexual. So far, almost every obsessed homophobe has turned out to be gay himself, so this sort of zeal rather amuses me.

Z said...

I'm with AOW and Sunbeam on homosexuality. It's NONE OF MY BUSINESS...don't MAKE IT your life. Have dignity. You don't want to see ME parading around in fishnets and false eyelashes...I feel exactly the same (except I am probably FAR cuter in those things than most men are!)
Signed, with love,
A Christian

Beak...I think this is one of your best posts. Thanks.

Ducky's here said...

That's right z, as long as they stay in the closet, no problem, right?

Of course if they do decide to come out in public we can have them wear a pink triangle, right? Beak is usually cool with that sort of thing.

The problem is that right wingers and evangelicals don't keep it private.

Z said...

Ducky, you're really a sick jerk sometimes. Do you REALLY not understand what you read, or don't you really read the comments? or posts.

Living your life with dignity has nothing to do with a closet.
If more gays acted like human beings and not perverted floozies, maybe they'd be more respected.