Long term readers know my respect for Justin and Rob whom I consider friends. The same readers also know my deep respect for deeply religious Christians. This is a respectful dissent unlike the more familiar back hand treatment given to communists.
Rob and Justin are valued friends who just happen to be gay. In NYC one meets many people of this type and it is a reality of daily life. Several times I have been mistaken for gay by Vermonters
whose sole contact with gays is a rerun of Will and Grace. I do not consider such an error to be an insult as I know many decent people who are gay. However, I got more offended by lefties who assume that as a NYer I share their idiotic views.
I want to preface my remarks by stating homophobia is very real. One should not even bother trying to deal with confirmed bigots. I do not waste time with rabid anti-semites. A disagrement with a Rob or Jams is another matter. One can respect those sorts as decent people one disagrees with. This is simply not possible with commies who are pariahs.
I disagree with Justin and Rob on Gay marriage. For me, marriage is a religious term and all religions have strict rules about who may marry. I want black robed Marxist freaks like Ruth Bader Ginsburg as far away from a House of Worship as possible. Justin sees the matter differently and I respect that.
I certainly disagree with the bunker mentality radicalism that fails to reach out to individual Christians. Gay rights will never progress by creating a bogeyman out of evangelicals. We have held many discussions on this issue and I have never heard anyone advocate genocide for gays.
About the worst form of torture I ever heard was forcing someone to watch the Detroit Lions. I have never met any evangelical goofy enough to want to place America under theological law. Nor have I ever encountered anti -semitism from a real Christian, any form of Liberation theology is a communist peversion of Christianity. The claim that Nazis were Christian and that evangelicals are of a similar stripe is absurd. The quotes from individual lunatics may be true, but as a whole this is dead wrong.
In general most of the religious Christians I encounter are of the same opinion that they respect
the division between Civil and theological law. Most of these same people with rare exceptions favor Civil Unions. Moreover, the dominant religious position is love the sinner and hate the sin.
Similarly, I am as likely to get a chiding over out of wedlock relations as a gay would receive. Homosexuality is not the sum of all sin in anyones definition.
I find myself in the odd position of defending Christians as a non Christian against the inflamed rhetoric of disgruntled Christians.
1) There is no "dark side of Christianity" . The Crusaders commited crimes against jews but otherwise these were defensive responses to Muslim agression that lasted hundreds of years.
2) The crimes committed against Indians were the product of what inevitably happens in the past. The notion that aboriginal people have rights and should be respected is a by product of Christian thought
3) The demise of slavery is largely due to Christianity.
4) Nazis in no way are Christian. They were a progressive movement that was Utopian in nature
and one of many that turned up around the turn of the century along with the equally as obnoxious communism.
A person that has as many written words as Hitler said many things. What we see in Hitler is often more a projection of one's own bugaboos than the content of Nazism. The action of Nazis were evil, but the source of the malady is the notion that an enlightened elite could create Utopia
5) The gay community like any other is best served by reaching out to individual evangelicals. Demonizing themwill set back the cause of gay rights ala the act up crowd's failures.