FJ is an incredibly stupid person for even in jest making this joke. Fortunately, enough of the genuine Socrates writings were preserved here on this blog so we can say so with some certainty.
There are some scary signs of similarity. I happened to be visiting Drummaster who is familiar
with the writing style of Socko. As we have not looked for this nut case for a while it is quite easy
to get a misread. There are some clear signs that are eerie. However, we have enough confirmed
samples of his writing as Muster Quark to draw this conclusion.
What is apparent is the Farmer is at times very stupid. He should have immediately apologized for playing mind games with a friend. As for the antisemitic comments and drivel of Joe Conservative what the real sentiment of FJ is remains a mystery. Is the man a Paulbot? Why play a Paulbot complete with Limbaugh, Levin and so forth are sell outs, word games with "concentration camp"and classic dual loyalty charges directed at a Jewish American. Being a Paulbot carries the social stigma of a leper in biblical times. If FJ is not a Paulbot he is incredibly
stupid for carrying on this act and annoying a friend.
In the exchanges FJ reveals some back story that would only be known to long time players at FPM. I posted there under the same name so I am a fixed constant. FJ admits to being Homer who appears out of nowhere in the Soc Wars after a board purge of all known Soc aliases. He claims I nailed him as a Soc clone in a brutal manner which was possible. Then why follow someone who smacked you around into cyberspace.
The truth is that FJ was almost certainly writing under other names before Homer. Who and what those names are remain unknown. So my references to him as a deeply disturbed criminal
are factually incorrect. FJ is the gold standard ( Ron Paul Pun) of stupidity who took a joke way too far and rather than say OK bud jokes on you and leave it there played more games with a friend who he really annoyed.
Only one person knows the true story of the history of myself and the person we call FJ. As my identity is fixed my side is clearly known. I would hate to go through eight years of being a running gag. FJ has assured the others he did not do this and should be given some leeway for
years of friendship as FJ.
I am starting to wonder about a few one hit wonders at FPM that could have been FJ giving me a form of internet wedgie like the FPM loon Murray Rothbard who briefly posted truther stuff.
FJ is not above such relatively harmless antics. This is not a way I behave, but my persona is real.
The matter is dropped for now I only visit three sites AOW, Pagans and Mr B's.
I request the Farmer please refrain from any more chicanery and stop going to sites he does not frequent like the Spitoon. This will blow over but it needs time
Moral of the story is: Do not treat friends like Rubber Chickens if you wish to remain friends
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Gee Beak I hope you still drop by trout's place no and again.
The Farmer doesn't hang his hat there. In a odd way I like Prof Tarzan Krolic. Next spring I want to go to Siberia. Might look the loon up and tell the locals he is a feudal
lord back in the States.
Siberia is the final frontier. I will visit a gulag or two and see the American traitor wing and boat down virgin rivers. Been to the Amazon but Siberia is more exciting.
Okay, I don't swear by this, I even forgot where I got it from, though I think it was something called KidKenoma Blog, but anyway, this supposedly Socrates's YouTube page-
Portal To India
Also, his real name isn't really Seth Allen but something else I've already forgotten, he blogs now at Patterico's (which is on my blog roll, another place I very seldom visit), or maybe Patterico is just his legal adviser. Or something.
The best one. He works for Cass Sunstein spreading disinformation, wreaking havoc, and fighting the spread and acceptance of conspiracy theories.
I've heard from my AIPAC handlers that FJ stands for "Fool Jews."
Beamish
It stands for F#$%$^ Jerk.
A simple got you when caught would have been okay.
Pagan
I saw that too. But the trail leads to an IT pro in MD. I checked known exemplars vs FJ and it isn't likely.Homer is on the known list of aliases.
This is a real head case. But I owned the real Soc or bored him stiff. This site wasn't big enough for him.
Not that I didn't drive the genuine
article up the wall. David Horowitz seemed to have erased all
of the forums so my exemplars for now are the only known samples.
The real Soc fooled everyone into thinking he was Jeff or Jerry Reynolds of West Covina CA. He likes playing cat and mouse and Seth Allen
seems likely.
He did know NYC well and parts of MA.Thus the Weintraub alias from Queens.
I was convinced he was an IT type covering his tracks ala Leopold and Loeb. His hallmarks are graphic descriptions of child abuse, lewd comments abut females and cut and paste bad philosophy.
The farmer fits like a glove on the last count, but clearly has not come close on the other two.
Watch as a bad joke he will cut and paste the Song of Songs on some religious persons blogs who will have no idea what it is.
The science was all Wikipedia stuff.
You're forgetting possibility #4, Beakerkin.
4) Beakerkin is full of shit.
Now, if you weren't a member of an inferior race of parasites and hagglers, you'd stop trying to renegotiate your slander of FJ with bad checks and cheap digs and just admit that you're full of shit. Go build a pyramid scheme somewhere else.
Oh no, now the great Beamish is an anti-Semite....
Not quite Mr. B
1) It was real stupid of FJ to even in jest state he is socrates.
2) Apparently for now the only exemplars of his confirmed writing is here.
3) FJ clearly has a different style and exhibits only one of Socrates annoying habits cut and paste philosophy. He clearly does not have the other tendencies as he gets along with females with ease.
4) Homer is on the list of known Soc aliases, but it is apt to be erroneous.
Actually, I put a lot of research into who the genuine article is
but it is not FJ.
FJ is merely dumb.
Socrates is a wanted man on several
blogs but the stage is too small for him to bother.
No Mr B is no anti semite. He just doesn't grasp how dumb stating you are the blogosphere's public enemy
number one is. He'd be better off saying DB Cooper.
Only the trained eye of Beakerkin can spot the facial features of "Der Ewige Antisemit"
1) It was real stupid of FJ to even in jest state he is socrates.
It was the exemplar of stupidity for Beakerkin to even in jest state FJ is an anti-Semite
2) Apparently for now the only exemplars of his confirmed writing is here.
Don't forget all that stuff locked up in your imagination, Beak.
3) FJ clearly has a different style and exhibits only one of Socrates annoying habits cut and paste philosophy. He clearly does not have the other tendencies as he gets along with females with ease.
Yet for days, Beakerkin has been trying to smear FJ with something... anything...
4) Homer is on the list of known Soc aliases, but it is apt to be erroneous.
Yet someone's obsessed with Beakerkin?
Seriously, Beak. It's becoming harder and harder not to make fun of you.
1) The comments of FJ as Joe Conservative were on a par with Ducky statements.
2)The only known writing samples of the real Soc are at this site. David Horowitz appears to have wiped the slate clean. If you know of any other
exemplars I'd like to see them.
3) FJ admits to being the greatest internet criminal of all time. This is something I do not take lightly.
4) You can google Muster Quark, Shanghai Charlie and Prof Meathead for the full list. Homer is on the list. Likely due to his proclivity for cut and paste philosophy and proximity to the genuine article.
You bet I am curious about what happened to the genuine article. It is like solving a great mystery
and I get info every few months from other people bothered by the Obnoxious one.
You are a great patriot and warrior
but leave the detective work to more patient types.
1) The comments of FJ as Joe Conservative were on a par with Ducky statements.
That would be the Ducky that regularly tries to hijack your blog to criticize Israel? When has FJ / JC done that?
2)The only known writing samples of the real Soc are at this site. David Horowitz appears to have wiped the slate clean. If you know of any other
exemplars I'd like to see them.
I'm not the one trying to "prove" some lame troll in your past was actually FJ.
3) FJ admits to being the greatest internet criminal of all time. This is something I do not take lightly.
Full disclosure: I steal credit card numbers from Lyndon LaRouche's databases and sell them to Ron Paul.
4) You can google Muster Quark, Shanghai Charlie and Prof Meathead for the full list. Homer is on the list. Likely due to his proclivity for cut and paste philosophy and proximity to the genuine article.
What does your detective work tell you about the authors of Wikipedia articles?
You bet I am curious about what happened to the genuine article. It is like solving a great mystery
and I get info every few months from other people bothered by the Obnoxious one.
At the Mossad safehouse down in the basement of Bernie's Deli, I'm sure.
You are a great patriot and warrior but leave the detective work to more patient types.
Aren't there greater mysteries to solve, like "Why is Beakerkin obsessed with being a perfidious little Jewish blowhard rather than truly apologizing to FJ for making false allegations about him?"
You still need to come clean about why you breathe oxygen, Beakerkin. You know Hitler was an infamous oxygen breather.
It's obvious that you are a Nazi.
Mr B
The comments of Joe Conservative do qualify as anti semitic. I do not give FJ a different Standard than the Duck.
FJ admitted to being the Internets
greatest troll. He certainly knew what the original article was about.
The crimes of the real thing are no laughing matter.
The names are on a list and in the case of FJ posting philosophy in the proximity of a legendary criminal who does the same is unfortunate.
The more likely place is at some cyber cafe on the East Coast drinking MD Code Red.
I am not apologizing for FJ's stupidity. His off the cuff stupidity got him in this mess and also tricking your friends is not too smart.
There are enough people looking for the genuine McCoy that such an admission could have made a major headache for FJ. The man really screwed up big time.
Mr B
Logic 1001
It is not smart to joke about being legendary criminals. The Farmer knew exactly what the real article did.
An equivalent is saying I am notorious axe murder and then feigning surprise at questions about chopped up bodies.
When FJ asked me about the writings I said I didn't do it. As I have a very distinctive style it
would be easy to spot in seconds. I also do not write under any other
names. The man made his own problems with his own stupidity.
I checked the known exemplars and did my homework.
Beak-
Go to Patterico's and post a few comments, as yourself, as Beakerkin, and see if Socrates shows up. Don't mess up now. Don't mention anything about him, even as a hint. Just comment on whatever post you comment on according to what the topic is, and stay on that topic. Don't mention him, or even hint about him.
I googled Seth Allen and all I got was some nerdy high school kid. There is even a pic of him on Google Profiles. Admittedly that might not be the only Seth Allen, but he's from Massachusetts, I think from the same town listed as Seth Allen's. Of course, he could be Seth Allen Jr.
One of your real old posts from sometime in 2005 is on page one of Google responses to queries about Socrates. I went and read it. I thought it was fucking hilarious.
Some guy that claimed to be him was arguing with that woman Donal. Apparently she was going along with the sexual shit up to a point, the guy even produced some of the shit she wrote.
I don't know, I would just like to know who and what he is.
Logic 1001
Don't talk to me about Logic, you perfidious Jew. You can't have your kike and eat it too.
It is not smart to joke about being legendary criminals. The Farmer knew exactly what the real article did.
And we all know what you did, you stinkin' Christ-killer. You want to make some matzoh with FJ's blood because he answered your wild and unfounded accusations with sarcasm.
An equivalent is saying I am notorious axe murder and then feigning surprise at questions about chopped up bodies.
For all we know YOU are this "child-molesting Socrates." The record clearly shows you were posting at FPM the whole time this was going on.
Confess, you troglodyte. You're trying to smear FJ because we've caught YOU.
Pagan
Actually, got a better plan.
Pretty funny Mr B. You are quite the comedian. Actually as my style is so distinctive I can't be Socrates. A good theory, but impossible.
Of course if you were the real troll "Socrates" trying to redeem himself behind his Beakerkin persona, you'd repeatedly deny being "Socrates." Which is clearly all the evidence we need that you ARE Socrates taking care to write in a different style.
Welcome to Kafkaville, Beakerkin.
If you were sincere in apologizing to FJ for smearing him, you'd stop with your farcical trying to associate the two at all.
But you can't, and won't, because you ARE "Socrates."
Stick with being the greatest patriot ever produced and leave the gumshoe work to the pro. It is impossible for me to be Soc. As writing styles are like finger prints even in character this can not be faked.
I did find some more exemplars in some odd places.
Hey Beak, hear that sound?
It's your cornermen yelling, "Stay down, stay down."
Stick with being the greatest patriot ever produced and leave the gumshoe work to the pro.
Yet all the "pro" has come up with is a circular argument. He thinks FJ is "Socrates" so therefore he is. No proof, no evidence required. Officer Beak has his man.
This is retarded. I thought Tay-Sachs made you "real Jews" unable to type after age four.
What exactly are you investigating, gumshoe?
It is impossible for me to be Soc.
No it isn't. In fact, you're just adding more evidence that you are this "Socrates" by denying it.
If you want my "war" on you to end, Beakerkin, you will meet the following conditions:
1.) You will publically apologize to FJ for smearing him with your bullshit charges of being anti-Semitic, and stop this ridiculous attempt to assassinate his character by wrecklessly associating him with some dipshit troll "Socrates" from your past
2.) You will renounce your faith in Judaism and build a shrine to Beamish in your backyard.
3.) You will write a handwritten letter to each citizen of the German nation and its ex-patriates sincerely thanking them for the Holocaust.
4.) You will join Ron Paul's Presidential election campaign
5.) You will shut the hell up until a member of a race higher up the hierarchy grants you permission to speak.
I'll settle for #1 though ;)
Beamish
FJ stated he was Socrates.
His comments as Joe Conservative are clearly anti semitic.
FJ did make the charge not me
Ducky
Interesting reading as I found more exemplars at Weasies.Oddly, Weasie confessed to writing the child molesting stuff though others saw it in divorce records.
As Sock is not Reynolds what they saw is apt to be false.
No doubt I am looking for common language phrases. There may be more than one idiot with this name.
FJ stated he was Socrates.
His comments as Joe Conservative are clearly anti semitic.
No, it went down like this:
Beakerkin: "FJ Are you also Rightminded? How long have you been an anti semite?"
FJ: "No I'm Soc, beakerkin. Can't YOU tell? Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!"
And since then, you've been obtusely milking FJ's sarcastic reply to your baseless assertions for over a week now.
I realize you can't get a government job unless you're able to prove conclusively that you're an idiot, but damn Beak, what are you the union steward?
His comments as Joe Conservative are clearly anti semitic.
No, they weren't. My comments in this thread are more "clearly anti-Semitic."
Pagan...You're seeing DONAL at a site where you think you see Socrates? DONAL? That's surprising. what a nightmare that whole FPM thing was. Their fights caused it to lose 2/3 of its commenters and VERY few ever came back.
Beak....You can say what you will about FJ; but STUPID? I don't think I've met a LESS Stupid person than FJ, Beak.
Maybe you think he's antiSemitic and maybe you think he jokingly let you think he was Soc when all he said was something like "okay...I was Socrates" and even I could tell he was being sarcastic....
But STUPID? FJ?
Beak...nothing personal, but THAT isn't too smart.
Z
The problem with making those types of statements is you run the risk that some will take you seriously.Given both use sock puppets and scores of cut and paste philosophy by the truck load the remark has some basis. Add the Farmers rant about Donal and admission he was Homer who
literally appears after Fiona was sexually harassed and it becomes a good case.
The only known exemplars of the actual Socrates writing is a small
sample here and Weazies. He has some writing on two pages as King Socrates and Freewheeling Socrates.
The theory is really not so far fetched as it seems.
Never admit to anything that is possible.
Mr B
As you are a comedian your comments are construed in that context. The remarks of Joe Conservative as well as Clintonian
gymnastic word games with the meaning of Concentration camp are
clearly different.
I am not so uncertain the Farmer is not a Paulist and that the real voice was Joe Conservative. Being a Paulbot has a serious social stigma
Of course all of this doesn't happen if FJ justs says Okay Beaky the joke is on you. Instead he continues and like you stated there
apparently was unfinished business
between myself and FJ. I spent little time wondering about Homer
but I must have cracked him in the head pretty badly.
Unfortunately, if this was apparently a case of mistaken identities, the real problem with sock puppets is highlighted. This is why I do not use them and speak
in one voice.
As you are a comedian your comments are construed in that context.
Well, I've certainly pulled all the stops out in a comedic effort to convince you that I'm an anti-Semite and you still give me the benefit of the doubt. Most of you Hebes would shit a red heifer if I said any of what I said above to them.
You know I'm no anti-Semite. I even make my Jewish girlfriend of 11 years roll her eyes when I grab a box of matzoh crackers at the grocery store and read the ingredients out loud and say "What?! No Christian blood?! Where the hell can we find real matzoh? Type O negative is my favorite flavor!"
But, to know me is to know my sense of humor knows no bounds. I go for laughs, even the cheap ones.
One of the reasons I like FJ so much is that his sense of humor knows no bounds either.
But as a friend, I rise to his defense when you go haywire and start flinging baseless accusation after baseless accusation at him.
EVERYBODY saw FJ's "admission of being Socrates" for the sarcasm it was. That is everybody but the person you pretend to be online, that has milked this "controversy" for over a week to score points in a game that only you are playing.
Unless of course, you really want people to think you're an idiot clinging to a discredited idea.
FJ is no anti-Semite. FJ is no child molester.
Swallow your misplaced pride and SINCERELY apologize to FJ.
No caveats. No weasel words. No bullshit.
Z-
That wasn't a current post, this was from Beak's blog here, way back in March, I think, of 2005.
You're more than welcome to take me very seriously; and I believe most people usually do.
FJ is anything BUT STUPID. You might be on a tear about him, and that's fine........but STUPID? no
I miss my old sock-puppet at Yeagley's site, "JackNJill". Good times.
Is this all about the freak show at FPM?
That place was insane. I do remember that Donal was out with the lead pack of the short bus crowd.
I confess that at times I did post some comedy pieces under the name of Terpsichore Lipschitz but that stuff was high quality material, never vulgar or ad hominem.
I wasn't Socrates.
You should ask yourself why you have so many antagonists, Beak. Myself, when you state that you make daily decisions that are critical to the nation's future I kinda get the idea that you're on the manic side of your cycle.
Lighten up and quit calling Farmer antisemitic. He sucks as much Likud dick as Beamish.
Pagan, you were JacknJill?
Wicked pisser.
He'd always ban me after a couple posts. I didn't have time to establish aliases.
He sucks as much Likud dick as Beamish.
Bullshit. I routinely criticize Likud for not killing enough Palestinians.
If the United States can rack up thousands of dead Iraqis for just a paltry $87 Billion a year, surely the Israelis can generate a higher body count than they do with our $1.8 Billion in aid.
Ducky
You were also the great Kreskin.
Ducky-
I thought everybody who went to Bad Eagle at that time knew I was JackNJill. Beak even talked about it here a few times. That was fun, fucking with that old fart. That and a few other things was one of the things that got him ranting about the "Beakerkin Group" he swore was out to get him. LOL
Yes, as I recall that was after my Duck ID was banned.
You were too outwardly hateful with him, Ducky. I didn't cuss him out or rant at him, I just fucked with his sensitivities. I remember my first post I was complaining about the TSA harassing me just because they were suspicious of a man who dressed like a woman. I don't remember exactly what I said, but I just had fun fucking with his head.
Socrates had a small run in with the sheriffs a few days ago. He finally made it out of the jailhouse for stalking and harassment and went back home to South Easton MA where he quietly maintains his Socrates nick name.
His posting on Patterico.com as Prepostericity continues unabated. One thing is for sure, the guy sounds like a raving lunatic in real life. Not only that, he looks like a carbon copy of Travis Bickle. Those who know Travis can relate. That is Socrates to a tee.
As for him being Seth Allen, this is a fact. No other name applies or can apply. Ron Brynaert tries to say he is Stuart Sims, which is a total fabrication on his part. The police have Socrates all identified with fingerprints and a mugshot and everything else. He is not Stuart Sims. One of his personas was in fact Jeff Reynolds, and of course a number of other nicknames that many of you already know.
There are a number of people who have a beef with Socrates and his 9 years of stalking. One of those people finally started taking him to court over it as many know. Up until that time few people knew who he really was. It was after this one individual stood up for himself that the almost decades long reign of Socrates started to crumble.
After almost 2 years in legal wrangling Socrates was finally tracked down and identified. He tried faithfully to avoid all court processes, but at the end he finally showed up in court when it came time to discuss the damages against him. It was at that moment he was arrested for stalking and harassment. Socrates had finally went off the deep end, and in his quest for some justice against his arch nemesis he stepped over the line into a plot that is worthy of a Movie of The Week.
It was at this time Socrates became deranged to the point of acting out his Travis Bickle fantasies. At that very moment he walked right into his own trap and was arrested and briefly held while other larger agencies investigated his almost 10 year reign of terror on the internet.
Socrates at this point is a dangerous and twisted and most certainly a deranged stalker going after justice for a cause he himself started. It was never about anything but damaging people at will. There were no real causes other than himself and his own gratification. He enjoyed it, but sooner or later had to pay the piper for it. The devil came calling in the form of the Sheriff's deputies with cuffs waiting to be put on him while he wailed like a baby wanting his mother.
Seeing Socrates for what he was, a giant on the internet in stalking and harassing people, being reduced to wailing and crying for rescue was amazing in and of itself to see and hear. He later regained his deranged psycho image composure, but for a few moments he was seen for what he truly is, a deranged lunatic who knows not what he does.
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