I have attended many far left protests as a heckler and want to make some notes about the RNC protests and your typical so called anti war protest.
With rare exception the Tea party was on message. There were a few protests about the birth certificate, but that is merely one part of the broad anti Obama message. There were tons of American flags waved proudly and none burning. I wish the Nazi stuff would stop as it is wrong when people say Bush=Hitler, it is just as wrong when people say Obama= Hitler.
That being said there were no Palestinian flags or imbeciles dressed in kafiyehs. There were no bug eyed trooooothers stating wacky conspiracies. There were no cows dressed in Pink exhibiting their poor taste and idiocy. There were no commies trying to subvert the cause for their vulgar agenda. I did not see any trustfundista types. Everyone I spoke to had a job or was recently unemployed.
The problem is the media will give almost zero coverage to anti Obama sentiment. The 15,000 in Minneapolis pales in comparison to the tea party. Apparently, the crowd was larger than I thought and people were still arriving at noon when I left.
One of the basic problems with Obama is that he lacks class and humility. He could have addressed some of the concerns with specifics. Instead he does a speech that promises everything and is full of platitudes. He calls his critics fear mongers, but I saw people fed up with the direction of things in DC. I had some slim hope that Obama would grow into the job, but his ego is even greater than either Clinton.
I think this fight has cooled his jets for round two immigration reform.
I am curious to see if Southern Democrats try to distance themselves from Obama in an attempt to survive.
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Everyone I came into contact with during the march and up on Capitol Hill was polite and considerate.
No pickpockets working the crowd, either.
Too bad you couldn't make it up to Minneapolis, Beak, you might have finally got a chance to meet your old buddy-Renegade Eye. He says the two different factions up there were cordial to each other. That's kind of hard to imagine, but hey, this is Minnesota were talking about.
I wouldn't be caught dead in a place like that. The minute somebody walked up to me and started mouthing about birth certificates, I'd be up the side of his head. I haven't got the time for stupid shit.
I've had it with both parties. I can already tell the Republicans are going to take over in 2010, and I hope they do, but at the same time, everything I've read and heard so far tells me that when they do, it won't take them two seconds before they start doing the same stupid shit that got their asses kicked out in '06. Wait and see if I ain't right.
Then of course, in 2012, Obama will be re-elected and will regain ground in the Congress. Probably not to the extent that he has the numbers he has now, but enough they will be firmly in the majority again, assuming the GOP gains control in 2010. Which I don't assume.
Both parties never get it, that the vast middle of America is sick to death of both of them.
With rare exception the Tea party was on message.
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You managed to say nothing about the message. For good reason but I'm curious what you think it is.
I see where the main stream media and pundits like Dowd and Mahr are doing their darnedest to demean, belittle and paint the protesters as a bunch of whacky right wing crazies. But contrast their behavior with the anti-war, anti-capitalist and green protesters, who damage public and private property, block traffic, and have little sing-songs laced with obscene words to curse their opposition. Mahr especially was mocking the protesters as a "bunch of retirees" who were lucky they could distinguish between Washington DC and Washington state. All I can say is Bill, you and your kindred spirits keep it up. Keep marginalizing and dismissing citizens who are exercising their constitutional right to disagree with their government. You are helping to wake up and solidify people who primarily want the government to leave them alone.
I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration. Oh wait a minute, Hilary Clinton said that and the left screamed and cheered for her! And for once I agree with her.
Dowd and Maher (sic) as opposed to just who on your side giving us the straight dope ... Limbaugh and Beck (and I do mean dope)?
There were no bug eyed trooooothers stating wacky conspiracies.
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Betcha there were some birthers though, complete with a Kenyan birth certificate filled out in crayon.
Everyone I spoke to had a job or was recently unemployed.
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Ah, that's why we love you, Beak. Your reasoning has a certain je ne sais quoi?
Pagan
I do not bandy words with Trotskyites. Ren is a death cultist and a very low class sick individual.He is very lucky that I do not retaliate in kind for his misdeeds. Lets leave it at this, his politics are far from the only warped thing about him.
The only way I would go near that loser is with an arrest warrant.
Ducky
Lets see I am not a fan of the birther movement. However, it should not be compared with the vulgar twoooother movement that is on a par with Holocaust denial and has many Communists.
Obama should have produced his birth certificate to the lab and had it examined. Of course this will not satisfy the most angry voices.
There is a decided difference between the low caliber people who
go to so called peace protests and the Tea party crew. The Tea party crew are usually gainfully employed and are not walking DSM timebombs. I certainly did not observe any lawlessness and the DC police I spoke to noticed it as well.
The message was against the expansion of government. There was a single focus and it was not off topic like the dimwits who bring Psudostinian flags to peace protests.
ducky-The bloating of government is taking place on many fronts...so the signs were of various subjects. BUT, it ALL came down to this, "Cut the nonsense, cut the regulations, cut the size of government."
As for birthers, I just want obama to do what John McCain COULD AND DID DO, show the stupid birth certificate, let it be authenticated...until then, I wouldn't trust obama and crew with my pet worm.
It's a trust issue!
And I DO NOT trust obama and his merry band.
G*D bless and MARANATHA!
tmw
Beak, an analysis of a photo that Rush the Vulgar Pigboy had been pushing to support his figure of 2 million at the event. We know it's closer to 150,000 with a lot of them bused in by Dick Armey's Freedomworks so I thought you might enjoy this since you are adamant about only posting the truth on your blog.
>>>>>>>>>Yet the photo showed the crowd sprawling far beyond that to the Washington Monument, which is bordered by 15th and and 17th Streets.
There's another big problem with the photograph: It doesn't include the National Museum of the American Indian, a building located at the corner of Fourth Street and Independence Avenue that opened on Sept. 14, 2004. (Looking at the photograph, the building should be in the upper right hand corner of the National Mall, next to the Air and Space Museum.) That means the picture was taken before the museum opened exactly five years ago. So clearly the photo doesn't show the "tea party" crowd from the Sept. 12 protest.
Also worth noting are the cranes in front of the Natural History Museum (the second building from the lower left of the National Mall). According to Randall Kremer, the museum's director of public affairs, "The last time cranes were in front was in the 1990s when the IMAX theater was being built."
That makes the picture at least a decade old. (We'll update this item if we find out when exactly it was taken.)
The conservative bloggers who originally posted the picture have backed down.
Say Anything updated its original post to say that the picture was "of the wrong rally." An accurate photo "clearly shows that didn't take place on the mall nearly as extensively as the image I mistakenly posted does."
Power Line took the picture down all together. We decided to still rate it on the Truth-O-Meter because so many people saw the photo on Facebook or other sites over the weekend and probably were unaware it was not from the Saturday protest.
It may be a real photograph, but it does not depict the much smaller crowd that showed up for the protest. We rate it Pants on Fire!
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"Beak, an analysis of a photo that Rush the Vulgar Pigboy had been pushing to support his figure of 2 million at the event. We know it's closer to 150,000 with a lot of them bused in by Dick Armey's Freedomworks so I thought you might enjoy this since you are adamant about only posting the truth on your blog."
Translation-the conservative movement is embarrassed-AGAIN-by one or maybe a number of its "supporters".
It's this kind of shit, along with the birth certificate and the "death panels" nonsense, that's starting to make me not give a damn.
Before these people start to do anything else, I wish they would stop and ask themselves-quietly-now, will this help, or will this hurt?
Because I'm telling you something, after so long, and after so many busted windows in the neighborhood, you get to the point that you say, "hey he's not my kid, my old lady was messing around when she had him."
There are a few differences between Obama and Hitler, lack of a moustache on Obama being the most obvious one.
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