Communists like to toss the term fascist and Nazi around. Chomsky and Finky like to make frequent America and Israel/Nazi comparisons. Commies also are quite fond of playing word games with Zionist/Joo or their pet slang term Neocon. Coulter is quite correct when she points out this means "eeeeevil Jooish Republican"
Chomsky talks about imaginary US-Nazi alliances but ignores Communist-Nazi aliances to divide Europe. In classic retro mode Renegade himself has defended this policy. This illustrates the Beakerkin axiom about communists having flexible morality quite well. Will the retrograde revelutionaries be defending ethnic cleansing and placing Muslims in Cattle Cars to Siberia and Kazakstan next? The Balts and those who lived in the sections of Poland invaded by Commies saw things differently. Members of my own family describe communist massacres in the region before the Nazis got there and created larger massacres. It seems Ren frgets about Katyn and a series of smaller crimes.
Then in typical mode Ren pulls out Pol Pot was a nationalist and not a Communist. Pol Pot was quite clear his inspiration was Mao's China. The roots of the Khmer Rouge as well as the BAATH parties are in the French Communist party. However, the game of nobody is a communist or everyone is a Nazi except for Communists who frequently align themselves with Nazis ( think Chomsky and Finky) is a bore.
Communists talk some idiotic words about internationalism. The reality is that Americans live this concept every day at work and in our lives. How many of us are multi-ethnic? How many of us have had serious relationships with people of other ethnicities. The reality is despite empty words Europeans are less advanced than Americans.
Beamish in 08
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Zionist in literally terms means "Advocate for a Jewish State"
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NeoCon, In general refers to someone who is generally a Liberal who joins Conservatives in War.
You don't even have to be Jewish to really be called any of these terms. Just by supporting Israel and defending the United States, you could be called this. Certainly their is a Anti-Jewish sentiment that could go along with such phrases, but not always.
Rob
Communists like 167, Renegade Eye, Troutsky play frequent word games with Jooo and Zionist. Almost all Jews with the exception of a few Chasidic cults support Israel.
The sole exception are communists such as Noam Chomsky, Noam Finkelstein and so forth. The creation of a Utopia in this world abrogates any ties communists have with ethnicity or nationality. The reality is that as Communists their fealty is to a Utopian movement that advocates class genocide and theft. Thus one can not be a Jew or American and a Communist at the same time. The history of Communist treason and sedition is also quite evident.
The term Neocon coloquialy is an anti-semitic code word used by Commies to mean Jewish Republican, all ten of them. When Commies talk of Neocon cabals and the Iraq war they are participating in classic anti-semitic mode in a linear progression from the classic Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Methinks Bayn needs to get himself some edumacation. :) Seriously, the real definition of neocon is a lot more restrictive than that, and I too have seen palecons and other folks throw around the term in race-baiting mode.
Russet Paleocons do use the term nocon exactly as you describe. Even more oddly is the excessive use of that term by the anarcho-liberterian clowns at Lew Rockwell.
Anarcho Liberterians are not to be confused with the more familiar types. Anarcho-Liberterians are almost as creepy as actual Communists.
Neoconservative: An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s.
By definition alone it means former Liberals who switch to Conservatism. Using this words as a slang for a race of people is a false representation of what the word means.
and that would be, E-D-U-C-A-T-I-O-N.
:)
Rob
The actual term was believed coined by Michael Harrington of the Democratic Socialists of America to disparage fellow Marxists who decided to leave the Marxist plantation. This was intended as a slur from the onset.
Liberals at the time ala John Kenedy were anti Communist by nature and a different breed. The familiar liberals as Communist appeasers and colaberators does not appear until the 1970's. The difference between President Kennedy and Gomer Kerry on the subject are quite profound.
In recent history Communists, Pat Buchanan and Lew Rockwell freaks have been using this term in a pejorative anti-Semitic conotation.
Ann Coulter note this on page one of her book How to Talk to a Liberal if you must. When Communists talk of Neocon Cabals or Zionist media they are essentially echoing themes that date back to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Moreover, if you read some of the remarks by Ducky and some of the others play on the dual loyalty issues with American Jews who support Israel. These same people howl and cry when people raise these issues with Muslims. Moreover a Conservative would be creamed for telling a Black person not to discuss racism. The hypocrisy of Communists is naked and blatant.
Pol Pot was a nationalist and not a Communist.
What kind of retard crap is this?
I've got David Chandler's biography of the murderous bastard sitting right in front of me. He was redder than chairman Mao.
Beak,
I still can't get over the a certain former frequenter of this site called you a Nazi. That happened about two years ago, when I was not blog-savvy and didn't know the "Newspeak." Still, calling a Jew a "Nazi"?
I've not yet been called a Nazi (not that I know of), but I have been called "racist" and "fascist." Leftists degenerate to ad hominem attacks when they can't make headway in an argument.
AOW
Calling Jews Nazis is a far left anti semitic standard. The far left is devoid of substance. Moreover, when they get called on their anti-Americanism and anti-semitism they get perplexed.
I am sorry the Che Book is late. I will have to add the Pol Pot book as well.
The proof is in the pudding, Bayn. Spend some time on the sites we've mentioned and report back.
Russet:
I notice you seem upset because Rob gave the accurate definition of word NeoCon.
You seem to think he is wrong and that it is an absolute anti-semitic word simply because it is a word that is misused by some ignorant people who know neither the true definition of the word nor do they know the history of the word.
Did you know that the majority of people see the icon that you wear in your profile as a statement of oppression of a entire race of people and that the "ADL" has labeled it as a anti-semitic symbol.
Words have meanings and are misused and abused just as symbols have meaning and are misused and abused. However saying Rob needs some edumacation would lead me to believe you need some serious edumaction in the meaning of words and symbols.
Justin
I find it comedic when commies talk about neocon cabals and zionist media. If any group has experience with actual cabals it is commies themselves. Commies as totalitarians seem to assume that they rights they bleat about are to be used only by those who agree with them.
I have to disagree with Rob the context of the vast majority of uses of neocon are anti-semitic.
Moreover, the usage to describe people who were never on the far left or were always anti-Communist is inaccurate.
In most cases I have encountered, people use the world NeoCon to refer to Bush supporters, I have never heard it used to attack Jews, however I also don't deal with Communist, or care about them, so they may use it in that context, you would know better. However I stand by the general definition of the word, and any other uses are improper. Your assessment that it is used like this in the majority of cases, I will have to disagree with, I think you to easily label something as Anti-Semitic, when really it may have everything to do with your political affiliation, and not your heritage.
Rob
When Commies talk about neocon cabals or zionist media the context is abundantly clear.
You may be right about Commies, and certainly Zionist is a slam against Jewish people, but in general we disagree on NeoCon, but Commies would be the exception, I would not expect them to be intelligent enough to know the true meaning of a given word.
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