tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post6208573114634512114..comments2024-02-20T21:48:16.978-05:00Comments on The Beak Speaks: Burn the Town and Sack the Banks by Price Part Onebeakerkinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-38227218247278331862007-02-13T08:15:00.000-05:002007-02-13T08:15:00.000-05:00From yesterday's WaPo, this commentary:Before hand...From yesterday's WaPo, <A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/11/AR2007021101169_pf.html" REL="nofollow">this commentary</A>:<BR/><BR/><I>Before handing the message to the clerk for transmission, however, Lincoln reconsidered the outburst that put McClellan in his place and scratched through it. The marks reveal the struggle between the president's great frustration and his better judgment as to when and how to deliver such a rebuke.<BR/><BR/>Yet Lincoln did not hold back from expressing himself. A few months later, the president saw a wire from McClellan to another general that attributed McClellan's failure to pursue the Confederates after the Battle of Antietam to the poor condition of his horses. There is an almost audible snap in Lincoln's self-control as he fires back (misspellings and all), "I have just read your despatch about sore tongued and fatiegued horses -- Will you pardon me for asking what the horses of your army have done since the battle of Antietam that fatigue anything?" It was an insight into a decision the president was in the process of making; less than two weeks later he fired McClellan.</I>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-73586015426018703462007-02-12T19:04:00.000-05:002007-02-12T19:04:00.000-05:00Rebuilding before really stomping the hell out of ...Rebuilding before really stomping the hell out of the enemy--and I do mean really stomping--is stupidity.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-68372248351924229202007-02-12T17:15:00.000-05:002007-02-12T17:15:00.000-05:00I do not know if the Sheridan model lends itself t...I do not know if the Sheridan model lends itself to Iraq. If we burnt Falujah to the ground would the enemy be demoralized.<BR/><BR/>We'd end up rebuilding it anyway. We are all McClellan.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-3113056878889277222007-02-12T16:53:00.000-05:002007-02-12T16:53:00.000-05:00Sherman's scorched earth policy led to deep resent...Sherman's scorched earth policy led to deep resentment that is still felt in certain areas of Georgia today.<BR/>But his purpose was to destroy the psychological capacity of the South to continue the war.<BR/>He was successful.American Crusaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16289577534372163973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-35500860615913262292007-02-12T11:57:00.000-05:002007-02-12T11:57:00.000-05:00AOW,The Constitution begins with a preamble statin...AOW,<BR/><BR/>The Constitution begins with a preamble stating the intent to create a "more perfect union." <BR/><BR/>It also delineates a national currency and places interstate commerce under federal jurisdiction. <BR/><BR/>The "states rights" argument is for people not particularly interested in the US Constitution (i.e. Democrats)<BR/><BR/>"Big government" is the Jacksonian spoils system run amok. Now we have government unions spending taxpayer money to campaign for Democrats that vote themselves pay raises.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-62904118415961011652007-02-12T08:24:00.000-05:002007-02-12T08:24:00.000-05:00Mr. Beamish said,The causes of the Civil War date ...Mr. Beamish said,<BR/><I>The causes of the Civil War date back to the very formation of our government.</I><BR/><BR/>Last week, I was expounding to my students on that very concept in my American History class.<BR/><BR/>Today, the Dems are the proponents of big government. But were the Dems of Lincoln's day in favor of big government or more in favor of states' rights? I've read a lot about how the South interpreted the 9th and 10th Amendments as giving the Southern states the option of seceding.<BR/><BR/>As to war, a "just war," one with "humane" rules of engagement, has never been won. War needs to give a decisive victory to one side. Sherman and Sheridan understood that reality.<BR/><BR/>Beak,<BR/><I>the book is about a little known episode in St Albans Vt. The title of the book might sound like what would happen if they closed the local liqour store.</I><BR/><BR/>Hehehe.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-26940129831930087952007-02-12T03:28:00.000-05:002007-02-12T03:28:00.000-05:00Sonia,Although my Alabama blood runs thick in my v...Sonia,<BR/><BR/>Although my Alabama blood runs thick in my veins, I will not agree with you that the North had the wrong cause. <BR/><BR/>The causes of the Civil War date back to the very formation of our government. Democrats (anti-Federalists) were opposed to the ratification of the Constitution, and much like today, would very much like to see it discarded. Especially in a process that kills Americans. <BR/><BR/>Look at the way Democrats fight wars (WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam) - tossing flesh instead of bombs at the enemy. <BR/><BR/>Nothing makes Democrats happier than dead Americans.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-42627343823208546232007-02-12T00:18:00.000-05:002007-02-12T00:18:00.000-05:00Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is one of my favorite ...Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is one of my favorite civil war heroes..he was New Englander...governor of Maine...and a great warrior.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-24392847031382143752007-02-11T23:19:00.000-05:002007-02-11T23:19:00.000-05:00It's fascinating to hear you debate the Civil War ...It's fascinating to hear you debate the Civil War from the Northern point of view. I always side with the South. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are my heroes. Burnside is an incompetent fool, McClellan is serving the wrong cause, and Grant and Sherman are war criminals and butchers.soniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938174968325568608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-89692063110889164202007-02-11T22:23:00.000-05:002007-02-11T22:23:00.000-05:00Kuhnkat You are on the money.MR B I hate to say th...Kuhnkat <BR/><BR/>You are on the money.<BR/><BR/>MR B <BR/><BR/>I hate to say this but that is 100% true if you judge him by the standards of the era. Kahn was more humane than the Muslims he conquered.<BR/><BR/>He should not be confused with Alexander or some of the Persian conquerors. <BR/><BR/>As the great Richard Poe stated ancient civilizations should be viewed at a distance.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-12488664420910456692007-02-11T22:14:00.000-05:002007-02-11T22:14:00.000-05:00Ghengis Khan got a bum's rap.Ghengis Khan got a bum's rap.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-63020854703337391492007-02-11T17:08:00.000-05:002007-02-11T17:08:00.000-05:00Mr BThe other John Edwards has said he has made co...Mr B<BR/><BR/>The other John Edwards has said he has made contact with both Zarqawi and Saddam. Their message is please send some toaster strudels<BR/>and a few boxes of Orville Redenbeaker. There was some mistranslation and there are no vigins down here. Only women who look like Madeline Albright and Yentyl on cable 24/7beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-18869689440640631002007-02-11T17:04:00.000-05:002007-02-11T17:04:00.000-05:00Mr BThe opinion of the American people is where th...Mr B<BR/><BR/>The opinion of the American people is where this war will be won or lost. The question still remains have we become too much like McClellan.<BR/><BR/>I certainly am not endorsing anything Ghengis Kahn like. Maybe Sheridan knew something we don't.<BR/>Maybe the time of the logic of Sheridan has past. Yet fighting like McClellan ensures an endless prolongation and deaths with no results. <BR/><BR/>The only way out is if the Iraqi army is built up. This takes time<BR/>and I have heard nothing about the Afghan Army.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-67008211655572758282007-02-11T17:03:00.000-05:002007-02-11T17:03:00.000-05:00I imagine the world watches our actions and reads ...I imagine the world watches our actions and reads our media and concludes that we're a giant crying about how we shouldn't smash people's faces in, as we smash people's faces in.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-90711677205049438302007-02-11T16:57:00.000-05:002007-02-11T16:57:00.000-05:00McClellan's idiocy almost cost the North the war. ...McClellan's idiocy almost cost the North the war. <BR/><BR/>In 1862, the Confederate general Early stood across the Potomac from Washington DC with an army of some 20,000 men poised to attack and capture Abraham Lincoln, but Early cautious withdrew thinking it was a trap - there's no way the capital of the Union would be totally unguarded, he thought.<BR/><BR/>There were only 5,000 Union troops in Washington at the time, with no reinforcements, or supplies.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-83360679533024026712007-02-11T16:51:00.000-05:002007-02-11T16:51:00.000-05:00You forget that the only battlefield the US is los...You forget that the only battlefield the US is losing on is on the front page of the New York Times. <BR/><BR/>Ask Zarqawi how he feels about the necessity of a troop surge in Baghdad. Ask Saddam Hussein if America will withdraw in defeat.<BR/><BR/>Oh, yeah. You can't.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-70915289104988291252007-02-11T16:06:00.000-05:002007-02-11T16:06:00.000-05:00Florian and TMWI am aware of the hostile press and...Florian and TMW<BR/><BR/>I am aware of the hostile press and the draconian tactics emloyed by Licoln. I also have fallen off the Bush bandwagon but for a different reason.<BR/><BR/>We have known for a while that the Iranians, Hezbollah and Syria have aided the insurgents. These facts were never brought to the attention of the Nation. Israel was fighting the very same people making the IED and sending men. Yet the case was never presented to the American people.<BR/><BR/>I am a tad more optomistic as our nation survived Jimmy Carter and eight years of Clinton.<BR/><BR/>There is an oddity known as the third generation. The first generation of imigrants is steeply immersed in the country of origin.<BR/>The second generation is the most dificult as they walk in two worlds. <BR/><BR/>If we survive without a catostrophic act of nuclear terorism the third generation may be Americanized. Maybe we will see <BR/>more Stephen Schwatrz types than CAIR clowns. This seems far fetched today but may be closer than we realize.<BR/><BR/>We will not get to this future by becoming like Ducky and creating a warped Disneyfied version of Islam.<BR/>The funny thing is we need to be more "inclusive" in the treatment of the realities of Islamic Civ.<BR/><BR/>Nobody in their right mind excuses Jim Crow or the brutal treatment of Native Americans. It does not make me less of an American to recognize those realities.<BR/><BR/>The time has come to put Islamic Civ under the same examination without the Marcuse victims pyramid.<BR/><BR/>Anyone awake. <BR/><BR/>America's future may be brighter than we think. The joy of Reaganism was can do. It is the essence of Americanism. We will recapture that spirit at some point. Perhaps Rudy will be the spark, but we need to get back to the attitude of can do.<BR/><BR/>Sominex timebeakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-34785085001198100132007-02-11T15:42:00.000-05:002007-02-11T15:42:00.000-05:00Beaker-On the contrary the northern media despised...Beaker-On the contrary the northern media despised Lincoln and hated him. They helped fuel the rioting and vilified Lincoln. Only thing is, Lincoln had guts and was honest, unlike present leadership!<BR/><BR/>tmwThe Merry Widowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07931051881434050901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-42632789375396133372007-02-11T15:31:00.000-05:002007-02-11T15:31:00.000-05:00Grant was called "the butcher" by the Northern app...Grant was called "the butcher" by the Northern appeasment press at the time of his wilderness campaign--though the press wasn't as hostile then as it is now. We also had a President back then who would win no matter what--Bush is a coward in this respect not telling congress to shut the hell up and take it. He's afraid to stand up it seems like. If a democrat wins in 08' it'll be the beginning of the end for America. <BR/>PS: Ghenghis Khan tactics might be all that will save us from the enemy--but they'd go straight to the UN and Dems and complain about it.FLORIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03755839118190045581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-63602315626708336652007-02-11T15:25:00.000-05:002007-02-11T15:25:00.000-05:00Moving to today our troops face obstacles Grant or...Moving to today our troops face obstacles Grant or even Patton did not face, the media. Our enemy uses our McClellan type weakness to its advantage.<BR/><BR/>This is not to say that we should revert to Ghengis Kahn tactics. However, we can not run a war with a Dr Suess mindset.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11044955.post-73549508480331200692007-02-11T15:16:00.000-05:002007-02-11T15:16:00.000-05:00McClellan was the biggest coward of the North. He...McClellan was the biggest coward of the North. He had an army almost twice as large as Lee's Northern Virginia and still struggled to win a major battle against him--Antietam was by no means a victory since he didn't follow up on his feats. It was more of a draw. I will say though that his invasion of the Virginia via the Penninsula was pure genius, he was just plain outsmarted though and thought he was dealing with 200,000 Confederates when in reality there were only about 85,000-95,000. Grant had the guts to not worry about casualities and threw his numerically superior forces at the enemy which inevitably won the war--though at a high cost. <BR/>I am 100% with you on that we fight the war on terror like a pansy McClellan. If we had a couple Grant's, Sherman's, Custer's, Sheridan's, Patton's, or Pershing's we'd have the fanny muslims looking like fairies right about now.FLORIANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03755839118190045581noreply@blogger.com